Mercifull Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 killing off a group of inferior people did not just happen in the us. were they inferior people or did they just not have good enough weapons? Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatsilverwyrm Posted April 14, 2005 Author Share Posted April 14, 2005 killing off a group of inferior people did not just happen in the us. were they inferior people or did they just not have good enough weapons? Not even that... A fair ammount of it was that they either didn't want to fight, or didn't really have a chance to.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaZoR-CuTs Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 killing off a group of inferior people did not just happen in the us. were they inferior people or did they just not have good enough weapons? Not even that... A fair ammount of it was that they either didn't want to fight, or didn't really have a chance to.. Thats the truth... In most killings with the americans and the indians. On of them accepted the other into a peace treaty of some kind and one of them would attack the other when they where not expecting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXMANSONXX Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 i love the confederit ......*bad spelling* .....flag i have one hand sewd on all my shirts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 I dont think anything that happened in europe could compare to slavery. I doubt any of your ancestors were enslaved and made to work for a person and if they didnt want to they they were whipped, hung, beaten, and finally mrudered. A bunch of vikings pillaging and plundering doesnt' compare to slavery. You must not know your history. Vikings were some of the biggest slave traders in history. Any history book will tell you this. They went off to the far corners of the world and not only brought back gold and items, but slaves as well. It was common in scandinavia for each family to own several slaves. Slaves were the vikings main trade item and source of income when they were off traveling throughout the world. Vikings easily took and sold more slaves than america did, by far. And as far as the swastika goes, no single culture can claim its origin. Almost every culture through out the world has some sort of swastika in thier history. Vikings, asians, romans, native americans, even jews, used swastikas in their culture. http://www.manwoman.net Most people agree that hitler took the swastika symbol from the vikings, as a symbol of power. The Nazis also used several viking runes for their other symbols "SS and the Elhaz rune..." Nazis belived germans were decendants of an ancient pure nordic race, and heavily borrowed symbology from the ancient norse people. The confederate flag doesnt have as bad of a reputation as the swastika, and I dont think the swastika deserves the reputaion it has. Some countries even outlaw it. I myself will be honest. When I was a teen I got caught up in a few white supremist gangs. And as a result of that I got a few tattoos which Im not really proud of, but on the other hand I am a Norwegian born American, and the swastika is a ancient symbol of my culture which I am proud of. And due to the reputation the swastika has, people automaticly assume im a racist, yet I dont have any ties with the groups in my past. People create hate, not symbols. Sure some people get offended when they see certain symbols such as the swastika, or confederate flag, and assume the people displaying these symbols are themselves racist (even thoguh they most likley are), but people have to be carefull and not judge becuase they have other meanings to some people. The swastika does not represent the slaughter of the jews, and the confederate flag does not represent slavery. If so, why not declare the american flag as a hate symbol? After all it was the flag used by the troops who vicously slaughtered innocient native amerians durring the 1800's. It was the same american flag which was being waved at wounded knee in 1880 when US troops shot and killed 300 unarmed native american women and children. The genocide the native americans faced was just as bad as what the jews faced. It is estimated that 95 percent of the native american population was wiped out. The united states did not fight and win their lands. What most history books dont record, are the millions of women and children US soidlers gun downed and slaughterd (even after surrendering). What the Americans did to the native americans, is just as bad as what Hitler did to the jews, except the americans got praised for what they did.Great post. I agree with you on some of your points but while in theory the symbols themselves may not have been born out of hate but the fact remains when people see them thats what is brought to mind so in reality thats the affect they have on people whether its right or not is a different story. I really do try not to judge anyone until I get to know them and I think I do a pretty good job at it. In no way do I believe that someone who flies the flag is a racist I wouldnt make the judgement til I knew that person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 I support the flag 100%, IMO If you sdotn like it than dont look at it. I Got on hangin on the wall in my bed room and my familty juust painted one on the top of our picnic table (look sweet) I dont think its a symbol of racisum.. it just reps what the south stood for during the civil warlol one of the main things the south was fighting for was NOT to abolish slavery. You can't deny the ties between that flag and racism im sorry you just can't.. You, and your family may not be racist at all but racism and that flag will forever be tied together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesselt Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 It doesn't bother me, I just think to myself "that person is rather stupid" It also wouldn't bother me to see someone wearing a nazi symbol, but would just think "that person is rather stupid" (unless of course the person wearing it is in Japan) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awe Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 Isn't the Confederate Flag the flag with the two diagonal blue crosses on it with stars going across on a red background? If so, Biggest. Redneck. Ever. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
____ Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 I support the flag 100%, IMO If you sdotn like it than dont look at it. I Got on hangin on the wall in my bed room and my familty juust painted one on the top of our picnic table (look sweet) I dont think its a symbol of racisum.. it just reps what the south stood for during the civil warlol one of the main things the south was fighting for was NOT to abolish slavery. You can't deny the ties between that flag and racism im sorry you just can't.. You, and your family may not be racist at all but racism and that flag will forever be tied together. Somehow people seem to forget that no one had a problem with slavery for the 200 odd years preceeding the civil war. Then all of a sudden racism from the side that won never existed. What a [bleep]ing joke :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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