What happened to this game?

[yanksrule]

dear rdbdragon: this is the long version of the monologue

 

 

 

ANY ONE ELSE REALIZE THAT THE OWNER OF THE THREAD LEFT????

 

 

 

although I've only been a player since early august i want to put my 2 cents in.

 

 

 

now you say that the make x option has made it too easy to train a skill. let me give you a real life situation.

 

 

 

i have a party and i have to go get bottles of soda. i have to go get 28 bottles. i go to the store in my car buy all of them and i park in my driveway after the deed is done. now i think to myself. is it more logical to bring it in one at a time or would it just be more logical if i got a little hand cart and got all of them in the house at once. nahhh then i wouldn't get applauded for my effort so i should do it ONE by ONE. so i tediously do it over and over again meanwhile the clock is ticking and my friends are coming over soon. so meanwhile i just waisted all this time taking in all the soda one by one when i could have cooked the steak. cleaned the house. walk the dogs. and groom myself a little more. #-o

 

 

 

you also said that construction was a terrible addition to rs. well they try to make this game as realistic as possible (minus the whole magic thing) so whats more realistic? having a house that you can "come home to" when you log off or just not having one? no one wants to do the "fatigue" thing that was in rsc.

 

 

 

 

 

now if you want to talk about things that really have ruined runescape in some way shape or form ill tell you what i THINK since i cant say it's factual cause every one will tear my [wagon] apart if i say this is what happend lol....

 

 

 

pest control in the begging was ruining runescape. and it was doing it for about a year and a half. jagex did fix this however. they made it segregated *for lack of a better word, bear with me* with high low and medium leveled players and they made it really hard to finish a game without that void knight guy dieing.

 

now I'm not saying that post update ruined rs its pre. PRE lol....

 

 

 

now although you said construction was a terrible idea and i contradicted that point I'm going to take the devils advocate (go on his side for a moment for people who don't know what that means)

 

 

 

construction is not for every one. of course you can still get most of the basics but if you aren't LOADED you can have a fun looking house. this is some-what encouraging us to get more money and explore more ways to get it and such but 6m for a decent greater dungeon? come on. and it's not like its giving us a massive unfair advantage like the telleport tabs *although i love the idea it was kind of a small downfall, (come on telleporting to one place in one click without mage? sheesh even pures can just be having butterflies once they found out about this)* and that portal room thingy where you can just telleport to canifs within moments when other people have to walk there because they don't have the money nor runes. this gave every one the idea of buying rs gold because they couldn't afford any of the rooms. then jagex is running around like a chicken without it's head thinking why is every one buying rs gold?

 

well it's already too late to change the skill so it'd be cheaper but you know such is life. the skill is already committed to the rich and privileged. and rule breakers.

 

 

 

the wilderness. i didn't argue this with you because the wilderness as ive said to many people before is just going downhill on a 90% slope hill. f2p pking is probably the safest thing to do now a days. if you go into 20+ wildy you can have a decent fight with some one in a single combat area.

 

 

 

now in members theres telleport block, snare ancients D D S, and theres people with 40 combat that have 99 strength :-s .

 

 

 

now how is any one supposed to go against some one who has a team of like 5 or more with their super strengths and super attacks sipped with 90+ strength and attack now when its supposed to be in the 70's now having a dds in their hand and that team goes up to the poor little level 80 or so and every one does the dds special before he can even say "wtf?". or how about the guy honestly killing green dragons so his crafting level will go up from dhides and then a barely visible spell comes and he cant attack the dragon for some reason. "your already being attacked" it says. by who he wonders? then theres a big ice block above his head and now he cant move, cant telleport to safety nor can he even fight back.... quickly running out of sharks he just thinks to himself, "what am i going to do?...." the the last shark is eaten and then "POOF" his whip that he's saved up for months is now gone.

 

 

 

the wilderness isn't for the weak minded nor is it for the people who in my opinion honestly play. i have a pure in my friends list and he wont get members just for that soul reason......

 

 

 

the wilderness just destroys accounts because people get tired of being pkd over and over again by the same type of people...... :?

 

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see although i disagree with you on a lot of things just think jagex is doing their best and although i'm going to be called a jagex puppet which is almost as bad as being called a noob , just know that every update is either the best or the worst to two different people.... don't go off on the young ones. i was "of age" to play this game when i did eventually join *i had just turned 13 then and now I'm 15i did know what people do in games because you know rs isn't all that violent considering god of war is possibly the best violent one out there. * young people play violent games just like me with god of war and other games as such. just dont think that the age requirement is meant there for the people without curiosity to just forget about runescape.

 

 

 

 

 

edit/addition: rs has been ruined now because of the assist system but i don't care because it doesn't directly affect me

 

 

 

ok i put my two cents in now :

[Happysniff]

For those of you who been around since 2004 or so, I'm sure you'll all agree that Runescape has down downhill for quite some time now. My question is, what's going on? I mean, people surpassing the age limit? Over 20 people with All 99 Skills? Economy going through the roof?

 

For people playing since 2001, we have seen it change much more. 20+ people with maxed out stats is was like Zezima becoming number 1, I believe Gearshifter used to be the number 1 ranked person.

 

 

 

Runescape has fallen into the dark realm. A while back (sometime in early 2007) I logged onto f2p just to see if any of my friends were still playing, and I couldn't believe how many changes were made for the worse. What use to be melee training in Legends Guild and the Wildy is now easily surpassed by PC, meaning that any fool can go from lvl 40 to lvl 126 within a few weeks. 99 Strength is hardly an accomplishment anymore. If a few hundred people possess it, that's fine. But over 10 thousand? And what the heck is with X Options? It not only made cooking and fletching easier, but it also gave people faster ways to make money.

 

The whole introduction of RS2 combat easier. Getting 99 slayer is like getting 99 strength or attack in classic, in that it follows the same principles, no xp til you kill monster.

 

 

 

Free-to-play was always the place for 8-10 year old kids to go waste their time begging for money and getting stuff that they didn't earn. But as early as last year I noticed that this was starting to become well apparent in members. What happened Jagex? What happened to your slow but worthful updates? Now it seems that they are throwing players tons of weekly updates that are hardly worth it. Quests use to have a purpose to them, now it's just to gain quest points and get more useless items and go to places that are barren. I remember the party room in Seers Village. Now it's moved to Falador where f2p players can go store useless items into them. People who play in the Wildy have been given items non-tradeable and I think that just destroys the concept of why they are there in the first place.

 

I agree with the constant adding of untadable pking items. They did have some worthy updates back in 04.

 

 

 

One of the major problems are the newer, younger players. They beg and want updates that are simply "kid friendly" and more easy on the player, rather than going to work to gain a certain lvl or item like how it used to be a few years ago. The trash that has always flooded the f2p worlds are now spilling into the members worlds. Do their parents even watch these kids? I'm 19, and I can't believe how many people who play this are younger than me. In a real MMORPG I would most likely be in the younger age group, but on Runescape I'm as if I'm some old fellow that gripes about anything new. The age limit is a joke. Your supposed to be older than 13, but any little kid knows that he/she can go past that barrier and make an account just to humilate others. I bet over 95 percent of these kids don't bother to read the rules or listen to the NPCs on tutorial island. These newer players either take the game too seriously or are just there to tease others. Finding a real friend is a rarity nowadays. The guy that helps you on quests and go training together at legends guild or being in a clan, while having fun. There's no honesty or intregity, it's all about making a quick buck and trying to become the best, richest player there is.

 

Best point yet. They all just want everything to be easy. I started playing when I was 7, and there were few 7 year olds playing. The 9-12 year olds could cope with the difficulty. Today it just gets damn annoying with all these newbies.

 

 

 

It's clear, Jagex is running out of ideas. The home teleport, the PC minigame, the Construction skill, and their constant updates on new items only made the game worse. I'm beginning to think that they are greedy now. I happen to quit this game last year, because I just couldn't take it any longer. I wish they would go and look at what they've done to their own game in the past two years.

 

 

 

Worst point imo. Construction was indeed the biggest and best update of 06. We had construction in the form of carpentry, but then it was gotten rid of, but back in 04 when you joined, they mentioned they'd bring it back. How could you possibly hate construction?

 

 

 

Overall I agree and disagree on half of your points each. RS has gone downhill since 04, but even more downhill since 01 :thumbsup:

[Tim]

you say your suprised that players younger then you play runescape, mild wake up call: its a teenager genre based game. it was aimed at 13-20yr old players, sure having older players is fine in fact it adds some maturity to the game but there will be players who are under-age of the sudgested limit to runescape. as for construction, my belife into the skill was not only an expesive skill (no need for evidence there) but also a way for players to get together and become "friends" (oh i hate that word) unfortunatly your only saying in your rant the negatives towards jagex's updates and runescape overall. like the dragon boots (more like slippers) was a bit deperate but brought down rune boots by 100k+ and good for those like me who cant afford to spend so much on boots or the new shop update which screwed over a large proportion of bots. :-k

 

i'll let you ponder my (mild) sense of wisdom...

[CaJ]

I am well aware of the changes and I started RS in 2002. I really don't mind if RS gave itself updates that were actually worth it. But cmon, what's the deal in catering to these younger audiences when they barely know the game? FYI I quit this game in June 2006 and I haven't gained any XP since. It ticks me off when I hear people say things on RS when they just started playing this game just this year or last year. They have no idea what the game was like before.

 

 

 

Why not give a quest that requires a 95+ skill, or has a reward to a destination that only the true, elite players can visit? It's well worth the time rather than doing a dumb, pointless quest that offers practically nothing. There are members out there that want to do EVERY quest and expect Jagex to offer good, decent updates. But they are being pushed to the side by this new generation of kids that don't know any better. Sure, everyone was like that at some point during their childhood, but it's too young for them to really grasp the world of Runescape. It's better to just pay your membership by yourself rather than begging your parents to and expecting good grades from school which is just ridiculous to begin with. I'm tired of the "kid friendly" updates, and it just reminds me of how watered down today's cartoons are compared to those in the early 90s.

 

 

 

Sadly, I am one of the few people anymore to have started with Classic. Not only do you need to be a member, but you have had to have been active in Classic within the past 6 months. Now I can't log in, and it's terrible because noone can make a new account on there either.

 

 

 

It also bothers me to see the hiscores, how everyone has a 99 skill. That just shows the point that RS has gotten too easy and there really is no point in lvling anymore unless you have friends to chat with. I am well aware that cooking for example had quite a few people with lvl 99 even 3-4 years ago, but they put effort into getting there by buying lob-shark certificates off of merchants. Now as I see, any idiot can get lvl 99 as long as they know what he/she is doing.

[Locutus_Of_Borg]

Wanna know what happened to this game?

 

People like you started playing it...

 

 

 

Anyways, PC was nerfed because it was being used as a fountain of experience, so you might wanna scratch that off your list...

 

 

 

Jagex can't control the people who join the game, so those begging choobs are of no fault because of Jagex.

 

 

 

Over 20 people with All 99 Skills?

 

What, you want Jagex to kick everyone back to level 1? There are roughly a combined 10 million players in RuneScape, fool. And you think that there should only be a few dozen with 99 in all skills?

 

 

 

99 Strength is hardly an accomplishment anymore. If a few hundred people possess it, that's fine. But over 10 thousand?

 

Complaining because you don't have 99 strength? It's obviously no accomplishment, why don't you have one?

 

 

 

Make X options have been around for a looong time...

 

 

 

Free-to-play was always the place for 8-10 year old kids to go waste their time begging for money and getting stuff that they didn't earn.

 

Everyone starts off F2P. So I guess you were one of the 8-10 year old noobs?

 

 

 

he age limit is a joke. Your supposed to be older than 13, but any little kid knows that he/she can go past that barrier and make an account just to humilate others.

 

So, what you're suggesting is that Jagex runs background checks on everyone who wants to join to make sure their over 13? What makes other MMORPGs different? WoW has it's share of underage players, as well as pretty much EVERY game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You say you quit before, you should do it again. It'll make the community a little bit better off without you.

 

It's people like you who are actually making the game worse by constantly complaining about every update and how much the game "sucks" now.

[CaJ]

Wow uh, I guess I have so much hate thrown my way. I hardly even come here, in fact this is the first time since last November that I decided to take a peek around to see how things are. I don't play RS anymore anyways, ever since most of my friends have left and people have found faster and easier ways to lvl their stats. Making X Options has not been around that long, only within the last 2 years. And to say that everyone with 99 skills should go back to lvl 1 is the most ridiculous claim I've ever heard. Why not go for lvl 100? Or perhaps lvl 110 or 115 in a skill? This is what fails because what what once an extremely tough lvl to get to is now much easier today than it was 3-4 years ago when RS2 was just starting. There's always been shortcuts, but people are always taking the cheap route. I just don't like seeing where things are much easier to handle and lvl up rather than doing it the way some veterans have been doing for years. I'm not saying RS is bad, in fact I thought it was one of the best free MMORPGs out there. But when you get quests that are too easy, items that are unnecessary, and stuff that is just plain worse, there is something wrong. When was the last time we had a quest as hard as Legends Guild or the Mourning Ends quest series?

 

 

 

I mostly played the game on private, meaning that I shut down every annoying person that was out there and did my own thing. If your saying I should quit, you don't have to because I already did over a year ago. Besides this is a Rants forum so it is suspected that people complain about things that may be totally dumb for other fellow RS players. If you don't like the attitude that lingers around the Rants, then don't bother looking here.

[Cyco_Reborn]

There's a point where no more good content can be added to a game. If the makers of the game are intelligent enough then they can prevent the 'point of no return' until quite a while. I think Jagex need to reconsider their target market to the people who are supposed to be playing and what they want, in terms of content. Jagex could turn back by tweaking or entirely removing some content to suit the target market.

[devilwar]

ive played on and off since there home page of rs was 6 circles and a big PLAY GAME circle in the middle.

 

and the rs2 products, that claim to be oldschool, get out, now.

 

i agree with what you are saying.

 

back on rsc, it used to be fun, pures, would be 40 atk 70 str and everyone would have trouble keeping 1 defence.

 

now if you have anything but 99 99 1 99 99 99, you're nothing..

 

there is 200000 people will the exact same stats.

 

back on rsc, there were stats people could only dream of. now there is no such thing.

 

 

 

You know why that is though? its not because jagex are stupid. its the opposit.

 

they do not care about what rs used to be like, the easier it gets, the more some psychological stimulus is set off for every achievement you make, and the more money they make.

 

 

 

its all psychological.