I'm going to go ahead and interject a question among the civilian/military debate: Do you then object to the fire bombings of japan, and any other civilian area bombings?

 

 

 

Good question. I actually did a history paper on whether or not the mass bombing raids by the RAF on Germany could be justifiable.

 

 

 

Franky, no, not if the targets were non-military and not if the war was coming to an end (as it was when we started fire-bombing places like Dresden). The bombing is too indiscriminate.

 

 

 

Complain to the thousands who died during the Blitz. The Germans pretty much just lobbed railroad rounds and rockets across the bay with no real targets.

 

 

 

Plus, carpet bombing was the norm for the time. Precision bombing was not accurate enough or able to be applied to large targets at the time. Even the venerable Norton bombsight was only accurate to a few hundred yards.

 

 

 

And about the Japanese bombings:

 

 

 

82% of the blast to Hiroshima and 93% of the Nagasaki blast hit military targets only. In both cities, the damage accounted for less than a quarter of the entire city. We did not flatten the entire civilian population. In addition, the long-term effects of radiation were not studied enough.

 

 

 

You could also say the same for the Japanese policy of putting dense civilian populations next to military targets.

 

 

 

Interesting stuff. It suddenly makes the bombings a little less 'child of satan' and a little more justified. Do you by any chance know of any accurate general shistory sites where you can look this kind of stuff up?

82% of the blast to Hiroshima and 93% of the Nagasaki blast hit military targets only.

 

 

 

Do you mean military target as in actually hitting the target, or hitting military personell? If you mean 82% of the bombings killed military forces, then you are very wrong... It's probably a misunderstanding.

 

 

 

Target. The actual detonations were very small. The reason civilian casualties were so high was due to the aforementioned cramming of population centers next to the naval docks at both cities. And US leaflets warning of the blast were dismissed by the Japanese government as propaganda.

 

 

You want people to make an educated and impartial opinion through reading an American history text book?!

 

 

 

Bubsa, American history books barely give a page to World War 2, much less politics of it.

It's the truth, you can read any website that tells the truth..Because i'm not sure were you live but i'm sure not from America so they don't teach you about American history unless of course it's a world history book.

 

 

 

Oh, yes, because one of the most important events in the 20th century is simply ignored by university level history courses.

 

 

 

And, you know, I can't possibly have any resources available to me regarding that topic because I only have access to one of the best, if not the best library in the southern hemisphere. And because I'd only be looking for textbooks rather than volumes of actual academic text on the subject.

 

 

 

No, sir.

It's the truth, you can read any website that tells the truth..Because i'm not sure were you live but i'm sure not from America so they don't teach you about American history unless of course it's a world history book.

 

 

 

Oh, yes, because one of the most important events in the 20th century is simply ignored by university level history courses.

 

 

 

And, you know, I can't possibly have any resources available to me regarding that topic because I only have access to one of the best, if not the best library in the southern hemisphere. And because I'd only be looking for textbooks rather than volumes of actual academic text on the subject.

 

 

 

No, sir.

 

 

 

Wow, how some of you love to take people out of context. I wrote "Most of you are 15 year olds who haven't read and American history book".

 

 

 

Who cares if we killed some Japanese civilians, I sure don't. They were our enemy and people can say it's immoral or whatever the hell they want to, but we kicked there butts at Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Who cares if we killed some Japanese civilians, I sure don't. They were our enemy and people can say it's immoral or whatever the hell they want to, but we kicked there butts at Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

 

:-s

 

 

 

Are you... mentally stable?

Who cares if we killed some Japanese civilians, I sure don't. They were our enemy and people can say it's immoral or whatever the hell they want to, but we kicked there butts at Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

 

:-s

 

 

 

Are you... mentally stable?

 

 

 

I hope he follows the example of his forefathers and tries to kick butt in school, maybe he'll actually learn to spell... :thumbsup:

I'm going to go ahead and interject a question among the civilian/military debate: Do you then object to the fire bombings of japan, and any other civilian area bombings?

 

 

 

Good question. I actually did a history paper on whether or not the mass bombing raids by the RAF on Germany could be justifiable.

 

 

 

Franky, no, not if the targets were non-military and not if the war was coming to an end (as it was when we started fire-bombing places like Dresden). The bombing is too indiscriminate.

 

 

 

Complain to the thousands who died during the Blitz. The Germans pretty much just lobbed railroad rounds and rockets across the bay with no real targets.

 

 

 

Plus, carpet bombing was the norm for the time. Precision bombing was not accurate enough or able to be applied to large targets at the time. Even the venerable Norton bombsight was only accurate to a few hundred yards.

 

 

 

And about the Japanese bombings:

 

 

 

82% of the blast to Hiroshima and 93% of the Nagasaki blast hit military targets only. In both cities, the damage accounted for less than a quarter of the entire city. We did not flatten the entire civilian population. In addition, the long-term effects of radiation were not studied enough.

 

 

 

You could also say the same for the Japanese policy of putting dense civilian populations next to military targets.

 

 

 

Interesting stuff. It suddenly makes the bombings a little less 'child of satan' and a little more justified. Do you by any chance know of any accurate general shistory sites where you can look this kind of stuff up?

 

 

 

I'd look at the Department of Defense, they are the ones with the info. I went to an aerial museum earlier in my new hometown and they had an exhibit on the bombings because one of the guys on the Enola Gay was a homeboy. But I don't really care to reveal where that is.