Terrorism

[reaper88888]

1. 9/11 was planned and carried out by the US government.

 

2. Iraq has nothing to do with terrorists, its all about the oil.

 

3. There never were WMDs in Iraq.

 

4. We STILL haven't caught Osama, if he was even behind it all..

 

5. This whole 'war on terrorism' is just a way to dupe the public into believing that we're really in Iraq to kill terrorists and save innocent people, not to steal their oil and keep right-wingers in office.

 

 

 

6. I suggest that you watch this: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 8192753501

 

 

 

1 hour and 30 mins, but it's worth it.

[Shahrazad]

And you're missing my point and ignoring it. I said the war in Iraq is not over, that warfare still exists.

 

1. The Coalition is at war in Iraq with the Iraqi Insurgency. Therefore, the war in Iraq, AKA the Iraq War, is still ongoing. The Iraqi police has joined forces with the Coalition to help the efforts but this does not mean that warfare has ended.

 

2. The Iraqi Insurgency is not made up entirely of terrorists.

 

 

 

You were the one who missed my point from my previous posts and kept discussing about different issues that relate to the war. I may have read all your sentences but that doesn't mean I have to reply to all of them because i don't want to expand with further details as I don't bring all the information from any source of media. You can't just say the war is still ongoing. It's true to say that warfare still exists and I appreciate you said that but not the war itself is ongoing.

 

 

 

They are not terrorists but some of them want to start a sectarianism war in Iraq, but i hope that would never happen. Don't ask me how and why because It has nothing to do with the whole topic :).

 

 

 

That's a really poor attitude. You say I am not allowed to discuss the war simply because I have never experienced it?

 

That would be comparable to refusing to discuss soft drugs with somebody simply because they have never tried them.

 

 

 

I didnt say you weren't *allowed*, i said in another words it wouldn't be convenient. There's a difference in the meaning, so please don't mis-word my whole point.

 

It's not refusing. I don't like to discuss about an issue with somebody who only reads and hears information from sources/articles/TV without experiencing it in the actual life. However, I'm giving you an insight about this whole idea but you don't like it, so your choice.

 

 

 

I appreciate the fact that you've had first-hand experience, but that does not give you the right to boast any sort of superiority to the rest of us, nor should you be using it as a valid argument in this matter.

 

 

 

First of all I don't argue. You're the one who's arguing with me. I was just discussing but you pulled it out into an arguement unfortunately.

 

 

 

Secondly, what kind of superiority? are you that bothered about it? if so I'm sorry and just ignore it although i don't see any sign of superiority. I didn't bring any information out of my pocket nor information I heard from sources/TV/articles about Iraq. I'm just saying what i have seen and heard from Iraqi media/people. Does it really bother you? You're the one who's boasting your superiority over me by knowing all the information from the media and won't accept any information which aren't from it but sorry i won't accept any faulty information that I'm not convinced about what happened to Iraq during the war and why etc... because I've lived there and know information that the media didn't even transport it to the public.

 

 

 

Although I do not know what war feels like, I know exactly what it means. When I say "war is still ongoing" I am not referring to the feeling of war, as I have no idea, but rather I am referring to the conflict of war. The conflict between the Coalition and the Iraqi Insurgency is still very clearly ongoing, and they are very much at war.

 

 

 

Nope, you misunderstood my point. I'm just giving you a hint of how WAR is like. You didn't say the war is ongoing between different groups. You should have mentioned that from the beginning so that I wouldn't understand it as there's still a war in Iraq. There're some parts of Iraq that are safe and no sign of a war. So please don't say again the WAR is still ongoing without mentioning a specific and detailed reason for it.

 

I'd accept your referment to mention about the conflict of the war because it's the main reason now not the war itself. If you asked my why i won't have an answer because I'm not a politician person :).

 

 

 

I can believe you, an individual online identity that I know nothing of, or I can believe the thousands of TV shows, news sources, internet articles and other media that still claim the war in Iraq is ongoing. Tough choice, but I choose the media.

 

 

 

It's up to you really. Just to get into a little off topic, do you think that Iraq consist of many minorities? or you'd just come and bring information from the media which doesn't even transport the actual truth.

 

 

 

See that bolded part? Exactly what I've been trying to argue. :wall:

 

 

 

The "invasion phase" (or "official war" as you call it) ended in April 2003.

 

I go by the day that the Coalition officially declared it over, and you go by the day that you saw peace in your specific city. Either way, the invasion phase was only the beginning of the war and conflict in Iraq, and like you said, the "whole war" hasn't ended yet.

 

 

 

It's your choice whether to convince yourself to believe what I'm saying or not. You can't convince me about something I'm not sure of and not even true. I don't believe every single detail the media transport because not all the information are true. So no need for this whole arguement about it.

 

 

 

The war directly relates to Bush's "War on Terror" so I would say it is still relevant to the topic

 

 

 

No comments. No wonder why people like to involve themselves into politics which bring headaches :roll:.

[Shahrazad]

1. 9/11 was planned and carried out by the US government.

 

2. Iraq has nothing to do with terrorists, its all about the oil.

 

3. There never were WMDs in Iraq.

 

4. We STILL haven't caught Osama, if he was even behind it all..

 

5. This whole 'war on terrorism' is just a way to dupe the public into believing that we're really in Iraq to kill terrorists and save innocent people, not to steal their oil and keep right-wingers in office.

 

 

 

6. I suggest that you watch this: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 8192753501

 

 

 

1 hour and 30 mins, but it's worth it.

 

 

 

You have just proved some of my points. Thank you.

[english4903]

1. 9/11 was planned and carried out by the US government.

 

2. Iraq has nothing to do with terrorists, its all about the oil.

 

3. There never were WMDs in Iraq.

 

4. We STILL haven't caught Osama, if he was even behind it all..

 

5. This whole 'war on terrorism' is just a way to dupe the public into believing that we're really in Iraq to kill terrorists and save innocent people, not to steal their oil and keep right-wingers in office.

 

 

 

6. I suggest that you watch this: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 8192753501

 

 

 

1 hour and 30 mins, but it's worth it.

 

ugh my long post got lost...

 

loose change is BS... read this:

 

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/israe ... index.html

 

israel is the only nation in the world which benefitted from 9/11, their enemies are now being attacked by the worlds biggest superpower + allies. also only 2 israelis died in the 9/11 attacks, strange how they knew when to avoid it.

[Shahrazad]

 

Actually, I think you'll find European culture has been found to have originated from Babylon, which is now where Iraq lies.

 

 

 

Allow me to tell you that sentence isn't true. European culture has nothing to do with Babylon. Culture of ancient Rome was the main culture in Europe. Babylon is the ancient city of Mesopotamia. It has nothing to do with Europe.

 

Europe has a different and an interesting culture that's completely different from Mesopotamia's culture :).

[BlueLancer]

 

Actually, I think you'll find European culture has been found to have originated from Babylon, which is now where Iraq lies.

 

 

 

Allow me to tell you that sentence isn't true. European culture has nothing to do with Babylon. Culture of ancient Rome was the main culture in Europe. Babylon is the ancient city of Mesopotamia. It has nothing to do with Europe.

 

Europe has a different and an interesting culture that's completely different from Mesopotamia's culture :).

 

 

 

 

 

 

Every European culture and country, even the Roman empire, was first influenced by other cultures. Europe hasn't been populated by modern humans for long at all; The people have poured in mainly from the east horn of Africa and Mesopotamia, then spread norther. Genetic research nowadays can easily show a given culture's genome/origins.

 

 

 

Most [generally white] people in Europe/USA aren't called egyptians/tunisians or iraqis though, based on the current countries of their origins. Yet the people who are ethnically linked to current Europeans came from those countries 10,000-40,000 years ago.

 

 

 

If you want to get technical, any native person of an European state not living in the above mentioned states is a "foreigner" since he is not living in his state of true origin.