Bodito Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Summoning is great. I've been waiting for it for ages now. I've been stockpiling Karamthulu and other various eggs prior to the release. The one thing I do not have, however, is an unlimited supply of money. This stat drains money at a rate equivalent to Construction. It may not seem like you are losing that much money, but you're getting much less xp. As such, this stat is not easily "powerlevelable." [in my mind, this is the Runecrafting of Construction, slow and expensive.] In the 21 levels I've gotten so far, I've spent over 350K on this stat. Not only are Charms annoying to come by (which I entirely understand) the creation of these "creatures" is downright expensive. Ex: Using the table I've created below. Let's figure out how much it would cost getting from 20-21. That's only 497 xp. Now lets assume you're going to use the best XP/cost method, the Granite Crab. So 497 divided by .0617 = 8055 Gp. That's how much it would cost to get lvl 21. Food for thought: (Note: I have not even included the cost of acquiring the materials [iron ore for example].) The ones in Green require a Green Charm The ones in Red require a Crimson Charm The ones in Blue require a Blue Charm Rest are Gold/normal Charms. The ones in BOLD are the MOST COST EFFECTIVE ONES. [i used a calculator! Don't contradict me on this![size=75]I felt I had to say that because someone would come along and say that I was lying. :P[/size]] Lvl -Familiar -Cost of Shards (total) - XP -- XP/Cost (amount of XP per GP spent) 01~Spirit wolf ------------ 350 ---------- 4.8 ------ .0137 04~Dreadfoul -------------400 ---------- 9.3 ------ .02325 10~Spirit Spider ---------- 400 ----------- 12.6 ---- .0315 13~Thorny Snail --------- 450 ------------12.6 ---- .028 16~Granite Crab -------- 350 ----------- 21.6 ---- .0617 18~Desert Wyrm -------- 2250 ---------- 31.2 ---- .0139 19~Spirit Scorpion ------- 2850 ---------- 83.2 ---- .0292 23~Albino Rat ----------- 3750 ----------- 202.4 --- .054 25~Spirit Kalphite ------ 2550 ---------- 220 ------ .0863 28~Compost Mound ----- 2350 ---------- 49.8 ----- .0212 31~Vampire Bat --------- 4050 ----------- 136 ----- .034 32~Honey Badger ------- 4200 ---------- 140.8 --- .0335 33~Beaver --------------- 3600 ---------- 57.6 ------ .016 36~Bronze Minotaur ----- 6000 --------- 316.8 --- .0528 40~Bull Ant -------------- 550 ----------- 52.8 ------ .096 41~Macaw ---------------- 3900 ---------- 72.4 ------ .0186 42~Evil Turnip ----------- 5200 ----------- 184.8 ---- .0355 43~Spirit cockatrice ------ 4400 ---------- 75.2 ----- .017 46~Iron minotaur ------ 6250 ---------- 404.8 ---- .0648 47~Magpie ---------------- 4400 ---------- 83.2 ----- .019 49~Bloated Leech -------- 5850 ---------- 215.2 ---- .038 52~Spirit terrorbird ----- 600 ---------- 68.4 ------ .114 54~Abyssal Parasite ------ 5300 --------- 94.8 ------ .018 55~Spirit Jelly ------------- 7550 --------- 484 ------ .064 56~Ibis ---------------------- 5450 --------- 98.8 ------ .018 56~Steel Minotaur -------- 7050 --------- 492.8 ---- .07 58~Karamthulu Overlord -- 7200 ---- 510.4 ----- .071 61~Smoke Devil ------------ 7050 ----------- 268 ------- .038 62~Abyssal Lurker --------- 5950 ------------ 163.2 ---- .027 63~Spirit cobra ------------- 5800 ----------- 276.8 ----- .048 64~Stranger plant ---------- 6400 ----------- 281.6 ----- .044 66~Barker Toad ------------ 500 ------------- 87 -------- .174 66~Mithril Minotaur -------- 7600 ----------- 580.8 ----- .076 67~War Tortoise ----------- 50 -------------- 58.6 ------- 1.172 - This is the most Amazing "hidden" bonus to slayer. Now you should do this task. 68~Bunyip ------------------ 5500 ----------- 119.2 ------ .022 69~Fruit Bat ---------------- 6500 ----------- 121.2 ------ .019 71~Arctic Bear ------------- 700 ------------- 93.2 ------- .133 74~Granite Lobster -------- 8300 ------------ 325.6 ----- .039 75~Praying Mantis --------- 8400 ------------ 329.6 ----- .039 76~Adamant Minotaur ---- 7200 ------------- 668.8 ----- .093 More to come, colors are still in the works for what is there, I just need to leave a few blank so I can keep my bearings. I just need a little break. Quest Cape gotten.Fire Cape gotten at 92 cb, no guthans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender2516 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 $ummoning is the bomb!!! :mrgreen: I agree with you mate, it seems kramnite krambs, are the best to level for low levels. If you love me, send me a PM. 8 - Love me2 - Hate me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qeltar Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 If you're smart, you'll learn ways of getting charms that include other drops to help pay for the shards. If you're dumb, you'll try to power-level a skill NOT designed to be power-leveled, and waste a ton of money doing it. It's GOOD for there to be things to spend money on in this game aside from stupid hats. Qeltar, aka Charles KozierokWebmaster, RuneScoop - Premium RuneScape Information for Expert Players -- Now Free!Featuring the Ultimate Guide to Dungeoneering -- everything you need to know to get the most of the new skill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zierro Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Even though it takes a while to train, I think it's fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender2516 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Well, what turns it off for me is the fact that a summon for fighting is useless in non-multicombat areas. Really, how many multicombat areas do you know that have great drops? I think it was a bad move on Jagex part to do this. Really, whats so wrong with attacking a monster and having your summon help you? ... Bad move Jagex. :shame: If you love me, send me a PM. 8 - Love me2 - Hate me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qeltar Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Had they not done that, it would have unbalanced every monster in the game. And made Summoning too powerful. Qeltar, aka Charles KozierokWebmaster, RuneScoop - Premium RuneScape Information for Expert Players -- Now Free!Featuring the Ultimate Guide to Dungeoneering -- everything you need to know to get the most of the new skill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitening75 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 its not rlly for the rich only, the charms take a lot of mon killing to get and in the time it takes for u to get the charms u need to strat traing again you would have plently of drops for u to shards. plussome of the high lv blue charm summons only need 1 shard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodito Posted January 16, 2008 Author Share Posted January 16, 2008 If you're smart, you'll learn ways of getting charms that include other drops to help pay for the shards. If you're dumb, you'll try to power-level a skill NOT designed to be power-leveled, and waste a ton of money doing it. It's GOOD for there to be things to spend money on in this game aside from stupid hats. I entirely agree with you. Problem is, is that I would rather be able to make my own shards, albiet (much?) slower, if I didn't have to pay for them. I don't have multi millions that I'm really willing to drop to get a few levels. Sure...I could RC and make money, or kill monsters as you say. Problem with monsters though, is that all the relatively good ones, the ones where you make a large profit, are always, always crowded and often times it's hard to even get a decent kill rate because you're waiting for a spawn, or fighting for the spawn. (Blue Dragons for example, which are now going to be even more crowded.) Quest Cape gotten.Fire Cape gotten at 92 cb, no guthans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodito Posted January 16, 2008 Author Share Posted January 16, 2008 its not rlly for the rich only, the charms take a lot of mon killing to get and in the time it takes for u to get the charms u need to strat traing again you would have plently of drops for u to shards. plussome of the high lv blue charm summons only need 1 shard Ok.... Fine, once you get ABOVE 86, you can buy runite bars only to level. And the other 3.6M xp on the way to it? Quest Cape gotten.Fire Cape gotten at 92 cb, no guthans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aoe325 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Well, what turns it off for me is the fact that a summon for fighting is useless in non-multicombat areas. Really, how many multicombat areas do you know that have great drops? I think it was a bad move on Jagex part to do this. Really, whats so wrong with attacking a monster and having your summon help you? ... Bad move Jagex. :shame: They just released an entire multi combat dungeon with many high level monsters, and many high level dungeons in the game are multi already (Tarn's lair) Quest cape obtained at combat level 83, march 07. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carcher Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 The thing I like about it is that it's just like Slayer. You use your combat to actually level it, in this case get the supplies to level it. I believe this has made a giant bonus to Slayer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAncient Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Bloated toads? They're something like 10 shards for 8.7 xp Plus the seconds are free Ever wanted to find street prices of RS items? Check out the SPOLI Index Nex Drops: Pernix Cowl, Pernix Chaps, Torva Helm, Torva Platebody, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Chaps, Virtus Robe Legs, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Mask, Torva Legs, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Zaryte Bow, Virtus Robe Legs, Virtus Robe Top, Virtus Robe Top, Torva Platelegs, Zaryte Bow, Pernix Body, Torva Platelegs, Torva Platelegs, Virtus Robe Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcoolj Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Sounds like fire giants will again be overcrowded :( Time to put chat on private, bring my cannon and shoo off others training there :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numer0_un0 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Slayer... lol. It's more of a Construction/Runecrafting/Combat/Herblore/Communism Cons - expensive. 401 gp not including the cost of chickens/trouble of getting charms to make a Dreadfowl. (9.3 exp) Runecrafting - CRAFT the pouches, anyone? + it's boring and slow, exactly like Runecrafting. Combat - they help you in combat. Simple enough, yes? Plus you do get some exp for it - I used like 70 strike scrolls and 6 dreadfowl pouches and got 14 exp :P beat that. Herblore - First ingredient (charms) Secondary ingredient (raw chicken) Communism - They controlled the prices right off from the start :( They lied to us. Edit: Oh, yeah, and Prayer: Summoning points that drop for each monster you summon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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