Summoning is great. I've been waiting for it for ages now. I've been stockpiling Karamthulu and other various eggs prior to the release. The one thing I do not have, however, is an unlimited supply of money. This stat drains money at a rate equivalent to Construction. It may not seem like you are losing that much money, but you're getting much less xp. As such, this stat is not easily "powerlevelable." [in my mind, this is the Runecrafting of Construction, slow and expensive.]

 

 

 

In the 21 levels I've gotten so far, I've spent over 350K on this stat. Not only are Charms annoying to come by (which I entirely understand) the creation of these "creatures" is downright expensive.

 

 

 

Ex: Using the table I've created below. Let's figure out how much it would cost getting from 20-21. That's only 497 xp. Now lets assume you're going to use the best XP/cost method, the Granite Crab. So 497 divided by .0617 = 8055 Gp. That's how much it would cost to get lvl 21.

 

 

 

Food for thought:

 

(Note: I have not even included the cost of acquiring the materials [iron ore for example].)

 

The ones in Green require a Green Charm

 

The ones in Red require a Crimson Charm

 

The ones in Blue require a Blue Charm

 

Rest are Gold/normal Charms.

 

 

 

The ones in BOLD are the MOST COST EFFECTIVE ONES. [i used a calculator! Don't contradict me on this![size=75]I felt I had to say that because someone would come along and say that I was lying. :P[/size]]

 

 

 

Lvl -Familiar -Cost of Shards (total) - XP -- XP/Cost (amount of XP per GP spent)

 

01~Spirit wolf ------------ 350 ---------- 4.8 ------ .0137

 

04~Dreadfoul -------------400 ---------- 9.3 ------ .02325

 

10~Spirit Spider ---------- 400 ----------- 12.6 ---- .0315

 

13~Thorny Snail --------- 450 ------------12.6 ---- .028

 

16~Granite Crab -------- 350 ----------- 21.6 ---- .0617

 

18~Desert Wyrm -------- 2250 ---------- 31.2 ---- .0139

 

19~Spirit Scorpion ------- 2850 ---------- 83.2 ---- .0292

 

23~Albino Rat ----------- 3750 ----------- 202.4 --- .054

 

25~Spirit Kalphite ------ 2550 ---------- 220 ------ .0863

 

28~Compost Mound ----- 2350 ---------- 49.8 ----- .0212

 

31~Vampire Bat --------- 4050 ----------- 136 ----- .034

 

32~Honey Badger ------- 4200 ---------- 140.8 --- .0335

 

33~Beaver --------------- 3600 ---------- 57.6 ------ .016

 

36~Bronze Minotaur ----- 6000 --------- 316.8 --- .0528

 

40~Bull Ant -------------- 550 ----------- 52.8 ------ .096

 

41~Macaw ---------------- 3900 ---------- 72.4 ------ .0186

 

42~Evil Turnip ----------- 5200 ----------- 184.8 ---- .0355

 

43~Spirit cockatrice ------ 4400 ---------- 75.2 ----- .017

 

46~Iron minotaur ------ 6250 ---------- 404.8 ---- .0648

 

47~Magpie ---------------- 4400 ---------- 83.2 ----- .019

 

49~Bloated Leech -------- 5850 ---------- 215.2 ---- .038

 

52~Spirit terrorbird ----- 600 ---------- 68.4 ------ .114

 

54~Abyssal Parasite ------ 5300 --------- 94.8 ------ .018

 

55~Spirit Jelly ------------- 7550 --------- 484 ------ .064

 

56~Ibis ---------------------- 5450 --------- 98.8 ------ .018

 

56~Steel Minotaur -------- 7050 --------- 492.8 ---- .07

 

58~Karamthulu Overlord -- 7200 ---- 510.4 ----- .071

 

61~Smoke Devil ------------ 7050 ----------- 268 ------- .038

 

62~Abyssal Lurker --------- 5950 ------------ 163.2 ---- .027

 

63~Spirit cobra ------------- 5800 ----------- 276.8 ----- .048

 

64~Stranger plant ---------- 6400 ----------- 281.6 ----- .044

 

66~Barker Toad ------------ 500 ------------- 87 -------- .174

 

66~Mithril Minotaur -------- 7600 ----------- 580.8 ----- .076

 

67~War Tortoise ----------- 50 -------------- 58.6 ------- 1.172 - This is the most Amazing "hidden" bonus to slayer. Now you should do this task.

 

68~Bunyip ------------------ 5500 ----------- 119.2 ------ .022

 

69~Fruit Bat ---------------- 6500 ----------- 121.2 ------ .019

 

71~Arctic Bear ------------- 700 ------------- 93.2 ------- .133

 

74~Granite Lobster -------- 8300 ------------ 325.6 ----- .039

 

75~Praying Mantis --------- 8400 ------------ 329.6 ----- .039

 

76~Adamant Minotaur ---- 7200 ------------- 668.8 ----- .093

 

 

 

 

 

More to come, colors are still in the works for what is there, I just need to leave a few blank so I can keep my bearings.

 

I just need a little break.

$ummoning is the bomb!!!

 

 

 

:mrgreen:

 

 

 

I agree with you mate, it seems kramnite krambs, are the best to level for low levels.

If you're smart, you'll learn ways of getting charms that include other drops to help pay for the shards.

 

 

 

If you're dumb, you'll try to power-level a skill NOT designed to be power-leveled, and waste a ton of money doing it.

 

 

 

It's GOOD for there to be things to spend money on in this game aside from stupid hats.

Even though it takes a while to train, I think it's fun.

Well, what turns it off for me is the fact that a summon for fighting is useless in non-multicombat areas.

 

 

 

Really, how many multicombat areas do you know that have great drops? I think it was a bad move on Jagex part to do this. Really, whats so wrong with attacking a monster and having your summon help you? ...

 

 

 

Bad move Jagex. :shame:

Had they not done that, it would have unbalanced every monster in the game. And made Summoning too powerful.

its not rlly for the rich only, the charms take a lot of mon killing to get and in the time it takes for u to get the charms u need to strat traing again you would have plently of drops for u to shards. plussome of the high lv blue charm summons only need 1 shard

If you're smart, you'll learn ways of getting charms that include other drops to help pay for the shards.

 

 

 

If you're dumb, you'll try to power-level a skill NOT designed to be power-leveled, and waste a ton of money doing it.

 

 

 

It's GOOD for there to be things to spend money on in this game aside from stupid hats.

 

 

 

I entirely agree with you. Problem is, is that I would rather be able to make my own shards, albiet (much?) slower, if I didn't have to pay for them. I don't have multi millions that I'm really willing to drop to get a few levels. Sure...I could RC and make money, or kill monsters as you say. Problem with monsters though, is that all the relatively good ones, the ones where you make a large profit, are always, always crowded and often times it's hard to even get a decent kill rate because you're waiting for a spawn, or fighting for the spawn. (Blue Dragons for example, which are now going to be even more crowded.)

its not rlly for the rich only, the charms take a lot of mon killing to get and in the time it takes for u to get the charms u need to strat traing again you would have plently of drops for u to shards. plussome of the high lv blue charm summons only need 1 shard

 

 

 

Ok.... Fine, once you get ABOVE 86, you can buy runite bars only to level.

 

And the other 3.6M xp on the way to it?

Well, what turns it off for me is the fact that a summon for fighting is useless in non-multicombat areas.

 

 

 

Really, how many multicombat areas do you know that have great drops? I think it was a bad move on Jagex part to do this. Really, whats so wrong with attacking a monster and having your summon help you? ...

 

 

 

Bad move Jagex. :shame:

 

 

 

They just released an entire multi combat dungeon with many high level monsters, and many high level dungeons in the game are multi already (Tarn's lair)

The thing I like about it is that it's just like Slayer. You use your combat to actually level it, in this case get the supplies to level it. I believe this has made a giant bonus to Slayer!

Bloated toads?

 

 

 

They're something like 10 shards for 8.7 xp

 

 

 

Plus the seconds are free

Sounds like fire giants will again be overcrowded :( Time to put chat on private, bring my cannon and shoo off others training there :P

Slayer... lol.

 

 

 

It's more of a Construction/Runecrafting/Combat/Herblore/Communism

 

 

 

Cons - expensive. 401 gp not including the cost of chickens/trouble of getting charms to make a Dreadfowl. (9.3 exp)

 

Runecrafting - CRAFT the pouches, anyone? + it's boring and slow, exactly like Runecrafting.

 

Combat - they help you in combat. Simple enough, yes? Plus you do get some exp for it - I used like 70 strike scrolls and 6 dreadfowl pouches and got 14 exp :P beat that.

 

Herblore - First ingredient (charms) Secondary ingredient (raw chicken)

 

Communism - They controlled the prices right off from the start :( They lied to us.

 

 

 

Edit: Oh, yeah, and Prayer: Summoning points that drop for each monster you summon.