Two-Three seeds a day and 8 nests don't make more than Fish. I've tested both as a matter of fact, over a week, over a day, and on average. The fact that, if you get 1 day of bad luck, it'll drop your profit pretty badly, thats why i think its the worst. Not because i didn't take into consideration of the other seeds, but because its a gamble.

 

 

 

The only reason i brought up the half keys is because i was comparing the two investments, whereas Maples, you depend on your luck, Fishing doesn't, and you get bonus on the side.

 

Maples easily beats coal, but i've gotten worse than coal on a bad day.

 

 

 

EDIT: To my surprise, flax has stayed steady for two weeks now, and that is really surprising. Also, fish has dropped, so if your reading this, you should switch to 10 flax and 5 fish. Fish has only dropped marginally (mainly swordfish), but flax is really steady. And i don't know why :shock:

 

2-3 on 50%, but dramatically increase your profit by putting 100% and making your odds better to get good seeds. If you think you only get 2-3 seeds a day on 100% your absolutely crazy and prove to me that you are quite naive about the whole mtk system and average extras.

Does someone have the link to the black sally guide to Barrows?

 

I think it was written by Ryder J but cant seem to find it....

Anyone for that link?

Only ones i could find:

 

Here, Here, Here, And Here.

 

 

 

P.S. give me a moment, i'll try to find it.

 

 

 

EDIT: nope, only barrows guide that mentions salamanders is saru's guide.

I know the guide you're talking about, but it got deleted in the rollback. It's basically the same as using slayer dart or any other spell, except that safespotting in the tunnels is harder with only one square of attack range.

I use 10 on maples giving me nearly 900 a day + nests with seeds, but this can be unreliable, if you get good seeds it's great profit, but on bad days, it isn't i also use the other 5 on coal, i break even on the maples and coal usually, relying on the seeds/nests for the profit, but it also gives me much appreciated farming exp :P

 

 

 

You also get 1 seed per 100 maples which means 8 per day, which is equivalent to an extra 24k a day, not including the seeds you get from those nests, as well as god bird eggs, rings and uncut gems from the coal. lets take an asverage day for me. The kingdom takes 75k from me, i get.... 892 maples 252 coal 8 nests and 1 uncut emerald, entirely reasonable.

 

 

 

892 maples *40 each, at a low price = 35680

 

252 coal * 175 each, again at a low price = 44100

 

 

 

As you can see without including by-products, i've made 69780, so down 6k...

 

 

 

Then lets add 8 nests at 3k each roughly, that's 24k + the cost of 1 emerald, say 500gp that's 94280 gp, so i'm in 20k profit, WITHOUT including any of the seeds. Lets say i get 4 rings, which will be banked. and 4 seed nests, i get 1 pineapple, 1 willow and acorn and a banana, so we're adding ANOTHER 15k to the whole thing putting me at 35k profit for doing nothing. The long you leave it, the better, if you leave for 2 days you'll get 17 nests instead of 16. so thus the chancesof a higher profit are massively increased. Personally i've made upwards of 400k profit from 1 trip using my method, 2 mage seeds and a palm, i think, plus the rest.

 

 

 

As for barrows i usually use verac's and whip combination, and switch after every couple of hits. I also take slayer dart jsut incase my whip/flail decide to stop hitting. Pray on only Dharok to minimise the cost in prayer potions, if you ahve any spre i advise moving on to Karil next, unleshing a set of DDS specials into him usually kills him. I then move onto ahrim, if you have any specials left, use them, then either whip/ mithril bolt him. I then move to Verac as he is now the most deadly brother remaining and since prayer is relatively useless against him, yuo'll rpobably end up having to eat a little. Guthan and Torag are the easiest 2 and are usually disptached with ease using which ever method you find easiest.

 

 

 

In the tunnel try to find your door straight away, keep an eye on your map and try to head for the centre, you used to be able to cheat and look across the "gap" but not sure if that's still possbile. You will then be greeted with a puzzle, which i think there is a list of answers with pictures in Tip.it's barrows guide. Upon opening the chest (if you haven't already found and killed your brother) the final brother should appear, kill him then loot the chest, teleport out, and repeat.

 

 

 

A lot of people say different things about kill count, and i have found it to have no relevence, in personal experience, i believe it to be based on pure luck alone. Try not to use prayer in the tunnel as it rapidly depleats and is a money drainer.

 

 

 

If you find your tunnel before you have killed all of the brothers, make a note of which crypt it is, then moev on and kill the others befoer going back to your tunnel.

 

 

 

 

 

For you, i'd advise using slayer dart and ranging ahrim, it is probably the most cost effective for you at your level.

 

 

 

Hope this Helps

 

 

 

 

 

As for Avianses, i have never been and can offer no advice, lol

Thanks guys!

 

 

 

Although Im still slightly afraid of the tunnels at Barrows ;)