The Offical TIF American Elections thread

[chris1216]

My uncle from Oregon is actually coming here to Michigan to campaign for Obama. Looks like he won't really be needed :P

 

 

 

I don't know about the rest of the state, but I know the city I live in is at least 90% democrat.

 

 

 

 

 

There's always fundraising to be done :)

[Kenshinjapan]

Ahh yes. We were all eagerly awaiting the Msnbc poll. Obviously the best one.

 

Even if you take away the MSNBC poll, you still have 2 other major networks giving the same poll results.

 

Even Fox News, which is to Conservatives as MSNBC is to liberals, has Biden winning.

 

 

 

edit:

 

Biden is also winning the online poll at Townhall.com, which advertises itself as a website for Republican Politics and Conservative Issues.

 

[hide=]Who won Thursday night's VP debate?

 

Joe Biden (57 %)

 

 

 

Sarah Palin (41 %)

 

 

 

Tie (2 %)[/hide]

 

 

 

I don't think that online polls should be used as a reference for something as big as an election. Let's face it, a major portion of republicans are the older generation that don't use computers all the time while a major portion of democrats are the hip, younger kids.

 

 

 

If anyone here solely looks to the internet polls to see who is winning, they could be sorely mistaken on the outcome.

[jackattack]

^^ Dewey in a landslide.

 

 

 

...Does it matter?

 

 

 

The battleground isn't the stage Palin and Biden were on last night. That contains no electoral college votes.

 

 

 

The battlegrounds are the key states, including Michiga... oh wait: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7650350.stm

 

 

 

 

 

Thats why he should have picked Romney. That would have given him Michigan.

[magekillr]

Economists favor Obama's plan by a HUGE margin:

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Even among Republicans Mr Obama has the edge: 46% versus 23% say Mr. Obama has the better grasp of the subject."

 

 

 

[hide=]

Examining the candidates

 

Oct 2nd 2008 | WASHINGTON, DC

 

From The Economist print edition

 

 

 

In our special report on the election we analyse the two candidates economic plans. Here, we ask professional economists to give us their views

 

 

 

AS THE financial crisis pushes the economy back to the top of voters concerns, Barack Obama is starting to open up a clear lead over John McCain in the opinion polls. But among those who study economics for a living, Mr Obamas lead is much more commanding. A survey of academic economists by The Economist finds the majorityat times by overwhelming marginsbelieve Mr Obama has the superior economic plan, a firmer grasp of economics and will appoint better economic advisers.

 

 

 

Our survey is not, by any means, a scientific poll of all economists. We e-mailed a questionnaire to 683 research associates, all we could track down, of the National Bureau of Economic Research, Americas premier association of applied academic economists, though the NBER itself played no role in the survey. A total of 142 responded, of whom 46% identified themselves as Democrats, 10% as Republicans and 44% as neither. This skewed party breakdown may reflect academias Democratic tilt, or possibly Democrats greater propensity to respond. Still, even if we exclude respondents with a party identification, Mr Obama retains a strong edgethough the McCain campaign should be buoyed by the fact that 530 economists have signed a statement endorsing his plans.

 

 

 

Does their opinion matter? Economics is just one of the many things the next president will have to worry about; voters still seem to prefer Mr McCain on foreign policy. And even on the economy, economists may not have the same priorities as the population at large. Arguably, what a president says about economics on the campaign trail is less important than how he responds to the unexpected challenges that inevitably arise once he is in office.

 

 

 

Yet economists opinions should count for something because irrespective of any party affiliation, most of them approach policy decisions with the same basic tool kit. Their assessment of the candidates economic credentials and plans represents an informed judgment on how well they will handle difficult trade-offs between efficiency, equity, growth and consensus-building.

 

 

 

Regardless of party affiliation, our respondents generally agree the economy is in bad shape, that the election is important to the course of economic policy and that the housing and financial crisis is the most critical economic issue facing America.

 

 

 

The detailed responses are bad news for Mr McCain (the full data are available here). Eighty per cent of respondents and no fewer than 71% of those who do not cleave to either main party say Mr Obama has a better grasp of economics. Even among Republicans Mr Obama has the edge: 46% versus 23% say Mr Obama has the better grasp of the subject. I take McCains word on this one, comments James Harrigan at the University of Virginia, a reference to Mr McCains infamous confession that he does not know as much about economics as he should. In fairness, Mr McCains lower grade may in part reflect greater candour about his weaknesses. Mr Obamas more tightly managed image leaves fewer opportunities for such unvarnished introspection.

 

 

 

A candidates economic expertise may matter rather less if he surrounds himself with clever advisers. Unfortunately for Mr McCain, 81% of all respondents reckon Mr Obama is more likely to do that; among unaffiliated respondents, 71% say so. That is despite praise across party lines for the excellent Doug Holtz-Eakin, Mr McCains most prominent economic adviser and a former head of the Congressional Budget Office. Although I have tended to vote Republican, one reply says, the Democrats have a deep pool of talented, moderate economists.

 

 

 

There is an apparent contradiction between most economists support for free trade, low taxes and less intervention in the market and the low marks many give to Mr McCain, who is generally more supportive of those things than Mr Obama. It probably reflects a perception that the Republican Party under George Bush has subverted many of those ideals for ideology and political gain. Indeed, the majority of respondents rate Mr Bushs economic record as very bad, and Republican respondents are only slightly less critical.

 

 

 

John McCain has professed disdain for so-called economists, and for some the feeling has become mutual, says Erik Brynjolfsson, a professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology Sloan School of Management. Obamas team is mainstream and non-ideological but extremely talented.

 

 

 

On our one-to-five scale, economists on average give Mr Obamas economic programme a 3.3 and Mr McCains a 2.2. Mr Obama, says Jonathan Parker, a non-aligned professor at Northwesterns Kellogg School of Management, is a pragmatist not an ideologue. I expect Clintonian economic policies. If, that is, crushing federal debt does not derail his taxing and spending plans.

 

 

 

On his plans to fix the financial crisis, Mr Obama averages 3.1, a point higher than Mr McCain. Still, some said they didnt quite know what they were ratingreasonably enough, since neither candidate has produced clear plans of his own.

 

 

 

Where the candidates positions are more clearly articulated, Mr Obama scores better on nearly every issue: promoting fiscal discipline, energy policy, reducing the number of people without health insurance, controlling health-care costs, reforming financial regulation and boosting long-run economic growth. Twice as many economists think Mr McCains plan would be bad or very bad for long-run growth as Mr Obamas. Given how much focus Mr McCain has put on his plans benefits for growth, this last is quite a repudiation.

 

 

 

Mr McCain gets his highest mark, an average of 3.5 and a clear advantage over Mr Obama, for his position on free trade and globalisation. If Mr Obama would wake up on free trade, one respondent says, I could get behind the plans much more. Perhaps surprisingly, the economists rated trade low in priority compared with the other issues listed. Only 53% say it is important or very important. Neither candidate scored at all well on dealing with the burgeoning cost of entitlements such as Medicare and Social Security.

 

 

 

The economists also prefer Mr Obamas tax plans. Republicans and respondents who do not identify with either political party see Mr McCains tax policies as more efficient but less equitable. But the former prefer Mr McCains plans43% of Republicans say they are good or very goodand the latter Mr Obamas. Of non-affiliated respondents, 31% say Mr Obamas are good or very good.

 

 

 

Either way, according to the economists, it would be difficult to do much worse than George Bush. The respondents give Mr Bush a dismal average of 1.7 on our five-point scale for his economic management. Eighty-two per cent thought Mr Bushs record was bad or very bad; only 1% thought it was very good.

 

 

 

The Democrats were overwhelmingly negative, but nearly every respondent viewed Mr Bushs record unfavourably. Half of Republican respondents thought Mr Bush deserves only a 2. The minimum rating of one severely overestimates the quality of Bushs economic policies, says one non-aligned economist.

[/hide]

 

 

 

http://www.economist.com/world/unitedst ... d=12342127

[Ginger_Warrior]

Maybe those economists are terrorists too. I mean, Sarah "Hockey mom" Palin would know.

 

 

 

May as well close this thread. The election is by now surely over.

[1_man_army]

^^ Strange things can happen in politics...look at how the Tories won here in 1992. Hell, McCain doesn't even need to win the election, just ask Al Gore.

 

 

 

I'm just hoping there's not an October surprise that shakes this election.

[jackattack]

Is that why 300 economists have signed on to McCain's economic plan?

 

 

 

[hide=Economists who endorse McCain's economic plan]Burton Abrams, University of Delaware

 

James D. Adams, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute

 

Douglas K. Adie, Ohio University

 

Richard Agnello, University of Delaware

 

William Albrecht, University of Iowa

 

Constantine Alexandrakis, University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth

 

William Alpert, University of Connecticut

 

Wayne Angell, Former Fed Governor

 

Fernando E. Alvarez, University of Chicago

 

Geoffrey T. Andron, Austin Community College

 

George R. Averitt, Purdue University North Central

 

Charles Baird, California State University, East Bay

 

Howard Beales, George W ashington University

 

Stacie E. Beck, University of Delaware

 

Gary Becker, University of Chicago

 

Donald Bellante, University of South Florida

 

Daniel K. Benjamin, Clemson University

 

John J. Bethune, Barton CollegeSanjai Bhagat, University of Colorado

 

Andrew G. Biggs, American Enterprise Institute

 

Robert G. Bise, Orange Coast College

 

Michael K. Block, University of Arizona

 

Donald Booth, Chapman University

 

Karl J. Borden, University of Nebraska

 

Michael Bordo, Rutgers University

 

George H. Borts, Brown University

 

Mich ael Boskin, Stanford University

 

Daniel P. Brandt III, Washington, D.C.

 

Ike Brannon, Department of the Treasury

 

David P. Brown, University of Wisconsin-Madison

 

Jeff Brown, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

 

Joseph Brusuelas, Merk Investments

 

Phillip J. Bryson, Brigham Young University

 

Andrzej Brzeski, University of California, Davis

 

James Buchanan, George Mason University

 

Todd Buchholz, Two Oceans Management

 

Richard Burdekin, Claremont McKenna College

 

Richard V. Burkhauser, Cornell University

 

James B. Burnham, Duquesne University

 

Andr ew B. Busch, BMO Capital Markets

 

James L. Butkiewicz, University of Delaware

 

Mark Calabria, United States Senate

 

James Carter, Vienna, VA

 

Don Chance, Louisiana State University

 

Barry R. Chiswick, University of Illinois at Chicago

 

Bhagwan Chowdhry, UCLA

 

Richard Clarida, Columbia University

 

Candice Clark, Economic consultant

 

Kenneth W. Clarkson, University of Miami

 

Warren Coats, IMF, retired

 

John Cogan, Hoover Institution

 

Boyd D. Collier, Tarleton State University

 

Michael Connolly, University of Miami

 

Kathleen B. Cooper, Southern Methodist University

 

Joshua Coval, Harvard University

 

Ted Covey, McLean, Virginia

 

Nicole Crain, Lafayette College

 

W. Mark Crain, Lafayette College

 

Dan Crippen, Former CBO Director

 

Thomas D. Crocker, University of Wyoming

 

Robert L. Crouch, University of California, Santa Barbara

 

Mario J. Crucini, Vanderbilt University

 

Ward S. Curran, Trinity College

 

Coldwell Daniel III, The University of Memphis

 

Antony Davies, Duquesne University

 

Steven Davis, University of Chicago

 

Clarence R. Deitsch, Ball State University

 

Richard DeKaser, National City Corporation

 

Stephen J. Dempsey, University of Vermont

 

Christopher DeMuth, American Enterprise Institute

 

David B.H. Denoon, New York University

 

William G. Dewald, Ohio State University

 

Arthur M. Diamond Jr., University of Nebraska at Omaha

 

John Diamond, Rice University

 

David L. [bleep]inson, Appalachian State University

 

Francis X. Diebold, University of Pennsylvania

 

Jeffrey H. Dorfman, University of Georgia

 

Thomas J. Duesterberg, Manufacturers Alliance/MAPI

 

Parnell Duverger, Broward Community College

 

Isaac Ehrlich, SUNY at Buffalo

 

Martin Eichenbaum, Northwestern University

 

Jeffrey A. Eisenach, Criterion Economics

 

Michael A. Ellis, Kent State University

 

Joachim G. Elterich, University of Delaware

 

Kenneth Elzinga, University of Virginia

 

Stephen J. Entin, Institute for Research on the Economics of Taxation

 

T.W. Epps, University of Virginia

 

Michael G. Erickson, The College of Idaho

 

Paul Evans, Ohio State University

 

Dino Falaschetti, Hoover Institution

 

Frank Falero Jr., California State University

 

Susan K. Feigenbaum, University of Missouri, St. Louis

 

Martin Feldstei n, Harvard University

 

Eric Fisher, California Polytechnic State University

 

Arthur A "Trey" Fleisher III, Metro State College of Denver

 

James Forcier, University of San Francisco

 

William F. Ford, Middle Tenn. State U.

 

Michele Fratianni, Indiana University

 

Luke Froeb, Vanderbilt University

 

Kenneth C. Froewiss, NYU Stern School of Business

 

Diana Furchtgott-Roth, Hudson Institute

 

Timothy S. Fuerst, Bowling Green State University

 

Lowell Gallaway, Ohio University

 

B Delworth Gardner, Brigham Young University

 

Dave Garthoff, The University of Akron

 

Ilhan K. Geckil, Anderson Economic Group

 

Rick Geddes, Cornell University

 

Joseph A. Giacalone, St. John's University

 

Adam Gifford, California State University, Northridge

 

David Gillette, Truman State University

 

Micha Gisser, University of New Mexico

 

Amy Jocelyn Glass, Texas A&M University

 

Charles J. Goetz, The University of Virginia

 

Claudio Gonzalez-Vega, The Ohio State University

 

Lawrence Goodman, Bergen City, NJ

 

Barry K. Goodwin, North Carolina State University

 

Eric S. Graber, Independent Economist

 

Douglas H. Graham, The Ohio State University

 

J. Edward Graham, University of North Carolina Wilmington

 

Phil Gramm, Former U.S. Senator

 

Teresa Beckham Gramm, Rhodes College

 

Wendy Lee Gramm

 

William B. Green, Sam Houston State University

 

Kenneth Greene, Binghamton University

 

Paul Gregory, University of Houston

 

Earl Grinols, Baylor University

 

Gary Hansen, UCLA

 

Eric Hanushek, Hoover Institution

 

Stephen Happel, Arizona State University

 

James E. Hartley, Mount Holyoke College

 

Kevin Hassett, American Enterprise Institute

 

Joel W. Hay, University of Southern California

 

Jared E. Hazleton, Texecon: A Texas Economic Consulting Firm

 

Charles E. Hegji, Auburn University Montgomery

 

Robert H. Heidt, Indiana University School of Law

 

Harold M. Hochman, CUNY Graduate Center and Lafayette College

 

Robert J. Hodrick, Columbia Business School

 

Stuart G. Hoffman, The PNC Financial Services Group

 

Arlene Holen, Washington, D.C.

 

Mac R. Holmes, Troy University

 

Douglas Holtz-Eakin, John McCain 2008

 

C. Thomas Howard, University of Denver

 

E. Philip Howrey, University of Michigan

 

Glenn Hubbard, Columbia University

 

James L. Huffman, Lewis & Clark Law School

 

J. Christopher Hughen, University of Denver

 

E. Kingdon Hurlock, Calvert Investment Counsel

 

Stephen L. Jackstadt, University of Alaska, Anchorage

 

Joseph M. Jadlow, Oklahoma State University

 

Sherry L Jarrell, Wake Forest University

 

Michael C. Jensen, Harvard Business School

 

Dennis A. Johnson, University of South Dakota

 

Shane A. Johnson, Texas A&M University

 

Richard Just, University of Maryland

 

Tim Kane, Washington, D.C.

 

Steven Kaplan, University of Chicago Graduate School of Business

 

Alexander Katkov, Johnson and Wales University

 

Melissa Kearney, University of Maryland

 

Joe Kennedy, Arlington, Virginia

 

Lawrence W. Kenny, University of Florida

 

Calvin A. Kent, Marshall University

 

E. Han Kim, University of Michigan

 

Robert G. King, Boston University

 

Paul R. Koch, Olivet Nazarene University

 

Meir Kohn, Dartmouth College

 

James W. Kolari, Texas A&M University

 

Roger C. Kormendi, Kormendi/Gardner Partners

 

Marvin Kosters, American Enterprise Institute

 

Robert Krol, California State University, Northridge

 

Anne Krueger, Johns Hopkins University

 

Deepak Lal, University of Cal ifornia, Los Angeles

 

Douglas Lamdin, The University of Maryland, Baltimore County

 

Daniel L Landau, University of Connecticut

 

Richard La Near, Missouri Southern State University

 

Nicholas A. Lash, Loyola University

 

Don R. Leet, California State University, Fresno

 

Norman B. Lefton, Southern Illinois University at Edwardsville

 

Tom Lehman, Indiana Wesleyan University

 

Thomas M. Lenard, Technology Policy Institute

 

Noreen E. Lephardt, Marquette University

 

Adam Lerrick, Carnegie Mellon University and the American Enterprise Institute

 

Philip I. Levy, American Enterprise Institute

 

W. Cris Lewis, Utah State University

 

Andrew Light, Liberty University

 

Jane Lillydahl, University of Colorado at Boulder

 

Zheng Liu, Emory University

 

Luis Locay, University of Miami

 

John R. Lott Jr., University of Maryland

 

Lawrence W. Lovik, Alabama Policy Institute

 

Robert Lucas, University of Chicago

 

John Lunn, Hope College

 

R. Ashley Lyman, University of Idaho

 

Paul W. MacAvoy, Yale School of Management

 

Glenn MacDonald, Washington University in St. Louis

 

John Makin, American Enterprise Institute

 

Burton Malkiel, Princeton University

 

David Malpass, Encima Global LLC

 

Michael Marlow, California Polytechnic State University

 

Donald J. Marshall, Consulting Engineer and Economist

 

Aparna Mathur, American Enterprise Institute

 

Timothy Matthews, Kennesaw State University

 

John Matsusaka, University of Southern California

 

Bennett McCallum, Carnegie Mellon University

 

Paul W. McCracken, University of Michigan

 

Martin C. McGuire, University of California-Irvine

 

W. Douglas McMillin, Louisiana State University

 

Roger Meiners, University of Texas - Arlington

 

Will Melick, Kenyon College

 

Allan Meltzer, Ca rnegie Mellon University

 

John Merrifield, University of Texas at San Antonio

 

Paul Merski, Independent Community Bankers of America

 

Jim Mietus, Great Falls, VA

 

Todd Milbourn, Washington University in St. Louis

 

Geoffrey P. Miller, New York University Law School

 

James Miller, George Mason University and The Hoover Institution

 

William C. Miller, Pioneer Analytics LLC

 

David E. Mills, University of Virginia

 

Velma Montoya, National Council of Hispanic Women

 

Michael Moore, George Washington University

 

Charles Britt Moss, University of Florida

 

Robert Mundell, Columbia University

 

Tim Muris, George Mason University

 

David B. Mustard, University of Georgia

 

Richard F. Muth, Emory University

 

Anthony N. Negbenebor, Gardner-Webb University

 

Charles Nelson, University of Washington

 

Robert J. Newman, Louisiana State University

 

Michael P. Niemira, International Council of Shopping Centers

 

Tom O'Brien, University of Connecticut

 

Lee E. Ohanian, UCLA

 

June O'Neill, Baruch College, CUNY

 

Steve Parente, University of Minnesota

 

Randall Parker, East Carolina University

 

Douglas Patterson, Virginia Tech

 

Tim Perri, Appalachian State University

 

Mark J. Perry, University of Michigan-Flint

 

Tomas Philipson, University of Chicago

 

William Poole, University of Delaware

 

Michael E. Porter, Harvard Business School

 

Barry Poulson, University of Colorado Boulder

 

James Prieger, Pepperdine University

 

R. David Ranson, H. C. Wainwrigth & Co. Economics Inc.

 

Richard Rawlins, Missouri Southern State University

 

Martin A. Regalia, Gaithersburg, Maryland

 

Barrie Richardson, Centenary College

 

Christine P. Ries, Georgia Institute of Technology

 

Aldona Robbins, Fiscal Associates

 

Gary Robbins, Fiscal Associates

 

Kenneth Rogoff, Harvard University

 

Richard Roll, UCLA

 

Harvey Rosen, Princeton University

 

Larry L. Ross, University of Alaska, Anchorage

 

Robert Rossana, Wayne State University

 

Timothy P. Roth, The University of Texas at El Paso

 

Charles Rowley, George Mason University

 

Paul H. Rubin, Emory University

 

Roy Ruffin, University of Houston

 

Gary J. Santoni, Ball State University

 

T.R. Saving, Texas A&M University

 

Mike Schuyler, Institute for Research on the Economics of Taxation

 

Anna Schwartz, National B ureau of Economic Research

 

Loren C. Scott, Louisiana State University

 

Robert Haney Scott, California State University, Chico

 

Carlos Seiglie, Rutgers University

 

Richard Selden, University of Virginia

 

John Semmens, Laissez Faire Institute

 

Sol S. Shalit, University of Wisconsin

 

Alan Shapiro, University of Southern California

 

Judy Shelton

 

William F. Shughart II, The University of Mississippi

 

George Shultz, Hoover Institution

 

Jerome Siebert, University of California, Berkeley

 

John Silvia, Wachovia

 

Chuck Skipton, University of Tampa

 

Scott B. Smart, Indiana University

 

Amy Smith, Former OMB Chief Economist

 

James F. Smith, The University of North Carolina

 

Vernon Smith, Chapman University

 

Sean M. Snaith, University of Central Florida

 

Douglas Southgate, Ohio State University

 

Frank Spreng, McKendree University

 

Beryl W. Sprinkel, Retired

 

Stan Spurlock, Mississippi State University

 

George J. Staller, Cornell University

 

Craig A. Stephenson, Babson College

 

Houston Stokes, University of Illinois at Chicago

 

Courtenay C. Stone, Ball State University

 

Scott Sumner , Bentley College

 

James Sweeney, Stanford University

 

Richard Sweeney, Georgetown University

 

Robert Tamura, Clemson University

 

Clifford Tan, Stanford Center for International Development

 

John A. Tatom, Indiana State University

 

John Taylor, Stanford University

 

Paul Taylor, Vienna, VA

 

Teresa Tharp, Valencia Community College

 

Clifford F. Thies, Shenandoah University

 

Henry Thompson, Auburn University

 

Walter N. Thurman, North Carolina State University

 

Jerry G. Thursby, Georgia Institute of Technology

 

Robert D Tollison, Clemson University

 

William N. Trumbull, West Virginia University

 

Kamal Upadhyaya, University of New Haven

 

Charles W. Upton, Kent State University

 

Peter J Van Blokland, University of Florida

 

T. Norman Van Cott, Ball State University

 

Richard Vedder, American Enterprise Institute

 

George J. Viksnins, Georgetown University

 

J. Antonio Villamil, The Washington Economics Group

 

Richard E. Wagner, George Mason University

 

William B. Walstad, University of Nebraska-Lincoln

 

Murray Weidenbaum, Washington University in St. Louis

 

Marc D. Weidenmier, Claremont McKenna College

 

Finis We lch, Texas A&M University

 

James B. Whitaker, Centreville, VA

 

John Wicks, University of Montana

 

Wayne H. Winegarden, Arduin, Laffer & Moore Econometrics

 

Gary Wolfram, Hillsdale College

 

DeVo L. Yoho, Ball State University

 

Nancy A. Yonge, Smith Center for Private Enterprise

 

Paul J. Zak, Claremont Graduate University

 

Mokhlis Y. Zaki, Northern Michigan University

 

Mark Zandi, Malvern, PA

 

Arnold Zellner, University of Chicago

 

Kate Zhou, University of Hawaii

 

Joseph Zoric, Franciscan University of Steubenville

 

Benjamin Zycher, Manhattan Institute for Policy Research[/hide]

[magekillr]

Is that why 300 economists have signed on to McCain's economic plan?

 

 

 

[hide=Economists who endorse McCain's economic plan]Burton Abrams, University of Delaware

 

James D. Adams, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute

 

Douglas K. Adie, Ohio University

 

Richard Agnello, University of Delaware

 

William Albrecht, University of Iowa

 

Constantine Alexandrakis, University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth

 

William Alpert, University of Connecticut

 

Wayne Angell, Former Fed Governor

 

Fernando E. Alvarez, University of Chicago

 

Geoffrey T. Andron, Austin Community College

 

George R. Averitt, Purdue University North Central

 

Charles Baird, California State University, East Bay

 

Howard Beales, George W ashington University

 

Stacie E. Beck, University of Delaware

 

Gary Becker, University of Chicago

 

Donald Bellante, University of South Florida

 

Daniel K. Benjamin, Clemson University

 

John J. Bethune, Barton CollegeSanjai Bhagat, University of Colorado

 

Andrew G. Biggs, American Enterprise Institute

 

Robert G. Bise, Orange Coast College

 

Michael K. Block, University of Arizona

 

Donald Booth, Chapman University

 

Karl J. Borden, University of Nebraska

 

Michael Bordo, Rutgers University

 

George H. Borts, Brown University

 

Mich ael Boskin, Stanford University

 

Daniel P. Brandt III, Washington, D.C.

 

Ike Brannon, Department of the Treasury

 

David P. Brown, University of Wisconsin-Madison

 

Jeff Brown, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

 

Joseph Brusuelas, Merk Investments

 

Phillip J. Bryson, Brigham Young University

 

Andrzej Brzeski, University of California, Davis

 

James Buchanan, George Mason University

 

Todd Buchholz, Two Oceans Management

 

Richard Burdekin, Claremont McKenna College

 

Richard V. Burkhauser, Cornell University

 

James B. Burnham, Duquesne University

 

Andr ew B. Busch, BMO Capital Markets

 

James L. Butkiewicz, University of Delaware

 

Mark Calabria, United States Senate

 

James Carter, Vienna, VA

 

Don Chance, Louisiana State University

 

Barry R. Chiswick, University of Illinois at Chicago

 

Bhagwan Chowdhry, UCLA

 

Richard Clarida, Columbia University

 

Candice Clark, Economic consultant

 

Kenneth W. Clarkson, University of Miami

 

Warren Coats, IMF, retired

 

John Cogan, Hoover Institution

 

Boyd D. Collier, Tarleton State University

 

Michael Connolly, University of Miami

 

Kathleen B. Cooper, Southern Methodist University

 

Joshua Coval, Harvard University

 

Ted Covey, McLean, Virginia

 

Nicole Crain, Lafayette College

 

W. Mark Crain, Lafayette College

 

Dan Crippen, Former CBO Director

 

Thomas D. Crocker, University of Wyoming

 

Robert L. Crouch, University of California, Santa Barbara

 

Mario J. Crucini, Vanderbilt University

 

Ward S. Curran, Trinity College

 

Coldwell Daniel III, The University of Memphis

 

Antony Davies, Duquesne University

 

Steven Davis, University of Chicago

 

Clarence R. Deitsch, Ball State University

 

Richard DeKaser, National City Corporation

 

Stephen J. Dempsey, University of Vermont

 

Christopher DeMuth, American Enterprise Institute

 

David B.H. Denoon, New York University

 

William G. Dewald, Ohio State University

 

Arthur M. Diamond Jr., University of Nebraska at Omaha

 

John Diamond, Rice University

 

David L. [bleep]inson, Appalachian State University

 

Francis X. Diebold, University of Pennsylvania

 

Jeffrey H. Dorfman, University of Georgia

 

Thomas J. Duesterberg, Manufacturers Alliance/MAPI

 

Parnell Duverger, Broward Community College

 

Isaac Ehrlich, SUNY at Buffalo

 

Martin Eichenbaum, Northwestern University

 

Jeffrey A. Eisenach, Criterion Economics

 

Michael A. Ellis, Kent State University

 

Joachim G. Elterich, University of Delaware

 

Kenneth Elzinga, University of Virginia

 

Stephen J. Entin, Institute for Research on the Economics of Taxation

 

T.W. Epps, University of Virginia

 

Michael G. Erickson, The College of Idaho

 

Paul Evans, Ohio State University

 

Dino Falaschetti, Hoover Institution

 

Frank Falero Jr., California State University

 

Susan K. Feigenbaum, University of Missouri, St. Louis

 

Martin Feldstei n, Harvard University

 

Eric Fisher, California Polytechnic State University

 

Arthur A "Trey" Fleisher III, Metro State College of Denver

 

James Forcier, University of San Francisco

 

William F. Ford, Middle Tenn. State U.

 

Michele Fratianni, Indiana University

 

Luke Froeb, Vanderbilt University

 

Kenneth C. Froewiss, NYU Stern School of Business

 

Diana Furchtgott-Roth, Hudson Institute

 

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I knew you'd bring that up lol.

 

 

 

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/11618.html

 

 

 

Besides, a study came out a few years ago showing that economists working in all industries support democrats over republicans more than 2:1. This should be of no surprise that McCain's economic plan is awful, and he was being very blunt when he said he doesn't understand economics.

[jackattack]

The only thing that article says is that one of the economists who is an Obama supporter had second thoughts about signing it. Not because of anything wrong with the plan but because he supports Obama. That he signed it in the first place says something.

[1_man_army]

It also said that the letter the economists received failed to mention a number of key points about the economic plan that McCain claims they endorse fully.

[magekillr]

Ouch McCain...this has got to hurt...perhaps pulling out of Michigan wasn't so smart?:

 

 

 

"...don't formally announce that you are 'pulling out' of Michigan, and then come back two days later asking the base core of support to 'keep working.' What a slap in the face to all the thousands of people who have been energized by the addition of Sarah Palin to the ticket. I've been involved in County Party politics and organization for 40 years, and this is the biggest [wagon] stunt I have ever seen."

 

 

 

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanm ... _crap.html

[Saru Inc]

I think Obama would do horrible with the economy, seeing as he's so far left, he's almost a Socialist, with lots of Socialist ideas.

[Ginger_Warrior]

These socialist ideas would be...?

 

 

 

Trust me, the bank bail-out from Bush last week was far more socialist than anything Obama's thinking of. State ownership of all the bad debts in the US economy? Call it what you will - it's nationalisation through the back door, albeit with the intent of selling later.

[baron8000]

Having had a chat with my JYA college children and their politics tutor, I am genuinely terrified as to the fate of the USA if McCain or Palin get anywhere near power.

[Lordjake]

I don't know why people keep saying that having a Democrat as president would ruin the economy.

 

The economy has historically been much better in times with a Democratic president than a Republican president.

 

 

 

During the forty years from 1961 through 2000, the United States had a Democrat as president half of the time (1961-68, 1977-80, and 1993-2000) and a Republican president for the other twenty years (1969-1976 and 1981-1992).

 

 

 

 

 

 

CPI = consumer price inflation

 

DJIA = change in Dow Jones Industrial Average

 

dollar = change in dollar against the mark/euro.

 

 

 

source

[megakiller32]

I'd vote for something that would get the house market back on its feet, as long as I can see proof it will work :|

[1_man_army]

I'd vote for something that would get the house market back on its feet, as long as I can see proof it will work :|

 

 

 

That's the problem, there are no guarantees in economics, just likelihoods, trends and erm...hope.

[megakiller32]

I'd vote for something that would get the house market back on its feet, as long as I can see proof it will work :|

 

 

 

That's the problem, there are no guarantees in economics, just likelihoods, trends and erm...hope.

 

 

 

But we can always dream

[Saru Inc]

I don't know why people keep saying that having a Democrat as president would ruin the economy.

 

The economy has historically been much better in times with a Democratic president than a Republican president.

 

 

 

During the forty years from 1961 through 2000, the United States had a Democrat as president half of the time (1961-68, 1977-80, and 1993-2000) and a Republican president for the other twenty years (1969-1976 and 1981-1992).

 

 

 

 

 

 

CPI = consumer price inflation

 

DJIA = change in Dow Jones Industrial Average

 

dollar = change in dollar against the mark/euro.

 

 

 

source

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's usually true for a moderate Democrat, and don't forget, not all Republicans were for the bail out, I hated it actually. Seeing as it lowered everyone's credit score no matter what. :s

[dangeresque]

Obama just seems like one shady dude to me sometimes. I mean heck, he made 90 million dollars from Fannie & Freddi Mac over 3 years, and then asked one of the higher ups from there to work for him after they collapsed. He is also close friends with a domestic bomber.

 

 

 

I think it will be fun to see him fail when he gets voted in :.

[Ginger_Warrior]

He is also close friends with a domestic bomber.

 

 

 

I think it will be fun to see him fail when he gets voted in :.

 

You mean there are people who actually believe Obama has links with terrorists?

 

 

 

Wow...

 

 

 

I had Tip.It down to be slightly more intelligent than that.

[1_man_army]

McCain says Ronald Reagan is his hero and Reagan is war criminal...

 

 

 

 

 

edit - Ginger NEVER underestimate how daft people on tip.it can be. The bar is set pretty low here at times by some and people still limbo under it.

[megakiller32]

You know, I thought it was impossible, and I also thought it was just a stereotype of how stupid Americans are, but some *actually* believe Palin's lies about Obama's terrorist links.

 

Obama was born in 1961. The Vietnam war ended about 1975 or so. So, Obama would be 14 years old (maximum) If he ever conspired with vietnamese terrorists.

 

Ironically, Palin said that, McCain (who as we know served in vietnam and get's those flashbacks because of his swollen left jaw-gland) vice-nominee said it. :|

 

Funny coincidence? OR WACKY CONSPIRACY THEORY?!?!

 

 

 

This sums up McCain's main demographics.

 

 

 

 

:D

[dangeresque]

I meant to say that he has supposed ties to him, I was in a hurry -.-. He still seems a tad bit shady though, I don't doubt that both Obama and McCain have done some shady things. Sorry for you all thinking I'm dumb, I'm really not \.

 

 

 

And not all of McCain's supporter's are Imperial Wizard white trash ;)

 

 

 

edit:

McCain says Ronald Reagan is his hero and Reagan is war criminal...

 

how is Reagan a war criminal :| ?

[jackattack]

You know, I thought it was impossible, and I also thought it was just a stereotype of how stupid Americans are, but some *actually* believe Palin's lies about Obama's terrorist links.

 

Obama was born in 1961. The Vietnam war ended about 1975 or so. So, Obama would be 14 years old (maximum) If he ever conspired with vietnamese terrorists.

 

Ironically, Palin said that, McCain (who as we know served in vietnam and get's those flashbacks because of his swollen left jaw-gland) vice-nominee said it. :|

 

Funny coincidence? OR WACKY CONSPIRACY THEORY?!?!

 

 

 

They aren't lies. It's not really a big deal but it is true. It was some wacky guy who bombed some government building. I think it was the pentagon or something. I don't thing is group didn't even killed anyone. I guess he and Obama were both teachers at Chicago University and Obama had some party or something at the dudes house. It's not really an issue. If they are trying to connect him to anyone they should try to connect him to Jeremiah Wright.