castle wars set up

[green9090]

 

Ok, point by point.

 

 

 

I'm going to take a shot in the dark here and assume that the OP, who is using d hide and a glory ammy, doesn't happen to have a spare set of Bandos laying around in his bank, meaning that barrows would be roughly 34 times cheaper.

 

Fair enough, but if he wants to spend money on the best melee armor in the game and use it for Castle Wars, I don't see anything wrong with that. It's useful everywhere.

 

 

 

25% is going to cut down 1/4th of the hits, exactly as the statistic implys. +4% strength is going to result in 4% higher hits, which isn't going to help too much. Think of it as hitting 1 higher every couple of hits that you actually land.

 

If you hardly ever get hit, then 25% less hits doesn't mean much. Add to that the fact that there are other major factors in how hard you're hit than just armor (like, oh, DEFENSE LEVEL), and the difference is almost negligible after a certain point. The smaller a number is, the smaller a given percent of that number is, so if you're getting hit all the time Barrows over Bandos makes a big difference. If not... not so much. Plus, Bandos has more ranged defense if I recall correctly. Ranged tends to be a bigger problem for me than melee.

 

 

 

Losing HP as a level 130+ happens to be a big concern unless you like to flag run underground, which the OP obviously isn't trying to do. Judging from the OPs armor and the fact that he's planning to do PKing, I'm going to assume dying is somewhat of a concern for him, as I die 4-6 times a game when PKing. If he's flag running, he should be in Armadyl. If he's defending, he should be in Ahrims.

 

Again, who cares about dying? If you're flag running, you're in Karil's/Armadyl anyway.

 

 

 

Armor bonus becomes meaningless after a certain point? What? Your saying that there's no difference between +150 slash and +200 slash defence?

 

Yeah. Statistics- learn them. Not a whole ton of difference in the short term between 1/500 and 1/1000- they're both just really unlikely.

 

 

 

I really can't think of a single thing bandos is good for - If your power training melee, Zombie monkies with 110k XP\hour require proselyte. If you can make more then 328k per hour, which anyone with over 70 range can, proselyte and +10% strength pray is better then Bandos for Slayer. If you make more then 720k per hour, Proselyte and Piety are better then bandos. You have to make in the 5m an hour range for Bandos and Piety to be better. As for any boss hunting, with the possible exception of Bandos where you are never hit, Barrows soundly trumps Bandos.

 

Obviously I'm not powertraining melee- 99 in everything. To all of your prayer in proselyte is better for slayer garbage- I flash piety AND wear Bandos, which is better than any of your methods. As for boss hunting, Sara GWD works pretty well in Bandos, since almost all of the damage you take is ranged from Bree and, as mentioned earlier, Bandos has a huge ranged defense bonus. Plus, with a unicorn and SGS, it's not like my team tends to outlast me in terms of supplies, so offense is much more important than defense there. Same deal with Zamorak and Bandos, come to think of it. Obviously it doesn't work well at Armadyl, but that's because you're ranging.

[compfreak847]

 

Ok, point by point.

 

 

 

I'm going to take a shot in the dark here and assume that the OP, who is using d hide and a glory ammy, doesn't happen to have a spare set of Bandos laying around in his bank, meaning that barrows would be roughly 34 times cheaper.

 

Fair enough, but if he wants to spend money on the best melee armor in the game and use it for Castle Wars, I don't see anything wrong with that. It's useful everywhere. It's not the best melee armor, and the only places it could possibly be useful are Bandos and (I'm still unconvinced) Sara.

 

 

 

25% is going to cut down 1/4th of the hits, exactly as the statistic implys. +4% strength is going to result in 4% higher hits, which isn't going to help too much. Think of it as hitting 1 higher every couple of hits that you actually land.

 

If you hardly ever get hit, then 25% less hits doesn't mean much. Add to that the fact that there are other major factors in how hard you're hit than just armor (like, oh, DEFENSE LEVEL), and the difference is almost negligible after a certain point. The smaller a number is, the smaller a given percent of that number is, so if you're getting hit all the time Barrows over Bandos makes a big difference. If not... not so much. Plus, Bandos has more ranged defense if I recall correctly. Ranged tends to be a bigger problem for me than melee. +1 more range defence? How much have you played castle wars, in my 500 or so games I don't recall having much of a problem with rangers. I do, however, recall getting mowed down by teams.

 

 

 

Losing HP as a level 130+ happens to be a big concern unless you like to flag run underground, which the OP obviously isn't trying to do. Judging from the OPs armor and the fact that he's planning to do PKing, I'm going to assume dying is somewhat of a concern for him, as I die 4-6 times a game when PKing. If he's flag running, he should be in Armadyl. If he's defending, he should be in Ahrims.

 

Again, who cares about dying? If you're flag running, you're in Karil's/Armadyl anyway. Like I said, I'd rather spend my time fighting then dying; running back and repotting are annoying.

 

 

 

Armor bonus becomes meaningless after a certain point? What? Your saying that there's no difference between +150 slash and +200 slash defence?

 

Yeah. Statistics- learn them. Not a whole ton of difference in the short term between 1/500 and 1/1000- they're both just really unlikely. If they're so unlikely, how come I die at least 3 times a game? And how significant is +4% strength, along those lines?

 

 

 

I really can't think of a single thing bandos is good for - If your power training melee, Zombie monkies with 110k XP\hour require proselyte. If you can make more then 328k per hour, which anyone with over 70 range can, proselyte and +10% strength pray is better then Bandos for Slayer. If you make more then 720k per hour, Proselyte and Piety are better then bandos. You have to make in the 5m an hour range for Bandos and Piety to be better. As for any boss hunting, with the possible exception of Bandos where you are never hit, Barrows soundly trumps Bandos.

 

Obviously I'm not powertraining melee- 99 in everything. To all of your prayer in proselyte is better for slayer garbage- I flash piety AND wear Bandos, which is better than any of your methods. As for boss hunting, Sara GWD works pretty well in Bandos, since almost all of the damage you take is ranged from Bree and, as mentioned earlier, Bandos has a huge ranged defense bonus. Plus, with a unicorn and SGS, it's not like my team tends to outlast me in terms of supplies, so offense is much more important than defense there. Same deal with Zamorak and Bandos, come to think of it. Obviously it doesn't work well at Armadyl, but that's because you're ranging. Not likely. Piety flashing still takes quite a bit of prayer, and requires full attention, which significantly slows down the overall monster killing. Proslyte and steady prayer are far better; talk to Zarfot about that :

[green9090]

Not likely. Piety flashing still takes quite a bit of prayer, and requires full attention, which significantly slows down the overall monster killing. Proslyte and steady prayer are far better; talk to Zarfot about that :

 

I'll agree to disagree on the rest- we're throwing the same points back and forth and never are going to make any headway. I don't have anything new to say because you haven't convinced me anything I've said is wrong, and I'm sure it's the same for you.

 

 

 

This part, though- I flash piety pretty well. Been doing it over a year, and can do it accurately while reading/watching videos (which I always do while slaying- got seasons 1-4 of House off my friend recently, that's a lot of slayer :P). It doesn't slow down anything, and it costs a LOT less. Like, enough less that I would have to make a lot MORE than 800k or whatever you said to make it worth turning it on full time. It's the perfect balance between cost and exp rate. I don't use any prayer potion at all because I always take an SGS on tasks with me. I would take this up with Zarfot in a second if I was on speaking terms, but unfortunately I'll just have to sit here and know he's wrong.

[compfreak847]

Not likely. Piety flashing still takes quite a bit of prayer, and requires full attention, which significantly slows down the overall monster killing. Proslyte and steady prayer are far better; talk to Zarfot about that :

 

I'll agree to disagree on the rest- we're throwing the same points back and forth and never are going to make any headway. I don't have anything new to say because you haven't convinced me anything I've said is wrong, and I'm sure it's the same for you.

 

 

 

This part, though- I flash piety pretty well. Been doing it over a year, and can do it accurately while reading/watching videos (which I always do while slaying- got seasons 1-4 of House off my friend recently, that's a lot of slayer :P). It doesn't slow down anything, and it costs a LOT less. Like, enough less that I would have to make a lot MORE than 800k or whatever you said to make it worth turning it on full time. It's the perfect balance between cost and exp rate. I don't use any prayer potion at all because I always take an SGS on tasks with me. I would take this up with Zarfot in a second if I was on speaking terms, but unfortunately I'll just have to sit here and know he's wrong.

 

Ok, we'll leave it at that, and let the OP decide. I was just about to post that if we went through another round :-#. I'll leave the unbiased numbers up so that the OP can decide: If you want to hit 4% harder at a cost of 17.6m, get bandos. If you want to get hit 25% less at a cost of 600k, get barrows.

 

 

 

As for piety flashing, its fairly easy with godsword but a bit of a pain with a whip. I can't help but feel that it has to significantly slow down your tasks - you can't do the 2 square jump trick to get to the next monster, and picking up drops\drinking potions requires more, carefully timed mouse clicks.

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Are you scoring, defending or pking?

 

 

 

Scoring: Armadyl/Karils, with some barrows armour if no mages are playing

 

 

 

Defending: Ahrims/Armadyl with ZGS or ancients (armadyl is superior when defending because offensive mages can really screw you up if wearing barrows/torso)

 

 

 

Pking: lol whatever it doesn't really matter. Pking is a pointless activity and doesn't help you win the game. i'd go with karil's top and v skirt maybe for mage defence too.. generally just take two sets? Melee set and a mage defence set.

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Pking may be pointless I defend myself but without pkers the game is pointless 10 pro cwers versus 100 pkers = victory for the pkers. :)

[compfreak847]

[hide=craven range]

Are you scoring, defending or pking?

 

 

 

Scoring: Armadyl/Karils, with some barrows armour if no mages are playing

 

 

 

Defending: Ahrims/Armadyl with ZGS or ancients (armadyl is superior when defending because offensive mages can really screw you up if wearing barrows/torso)

 

 

 

Pking: lol whatever it doesn't really matter. Pking is a pointless activity and doesn't help you win the game. i'd go with karil's top and v skirt maybe for mage defence too.. generally just take two sets? Melee set and a mage defence set.

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Pking may be pointless I defend myself but without pkers the game is pointless 10 pro cwers versus 100 pkers = victory for the pkers. :)

 

Not a chance, the best the PKers can do is tie, because no one scores. All the pro cwers need is 2 flag runners and 8 ancients - freeze the 100 pkers that cluster around the flag runner, and he's home free.

[green9090]

As for piety flashing, its fairly easy with godsword but a bit of a pain with a whip. I can't help but feel that it has to significantly slow down your tasks - you can't do the 2 square jump trick to get to the next monster, and picking up drops\drinking potions requires more, carefully timed mouse clicks.

 

I'm better at flashing with a whip than a godsword because I learned with a whip. I don't know what the 2 square jump is, but it sounds like saving two squares of running between monsters. Lol, I'll take my chances. Picking up drops and drinking potions is not a complicated task, and I tend to do just fine. It does not significantly slow me down, I 100% guarantee it's better than using the 10% str prayer, and it's so much cheaper than using constant piety that I wouldn't even consider using the prayer potions.

[davidium]

get karil to fend off mages instead of armadyl cause armadyl reduces your melee attack...get ahrims to barrage if you want since zgs spec cannot be used all the time...bandos is good too =)

[compfreak847]

get karil to fend off mages instead of armadyl cause armadyl reduces your melee attack...get ahrims to barrage if you want since zgs spec cannot be used all the time...bandos is good too =)

 

Wrong, barrows is better. 25% defence > 4% strength.

 

 

 

I'm better at flashing with a whip than a godsword because I learned with a whip. I don't know what the 2 square jump is, but it sounds like saving two squares of running between monsters. Lol, I'll take my chances. Picking up drops and drinking potions is not a complicated task, and I tend to do just fine. It does not significantly slow me down, I 100% guarantee it's better than using the 10% str prayer, and it's so much cheaper than using constant piety that I wouldn't even consider using the prayer potions.

 

I'll take your word for it, but you'd be amazed what concentrating and practicing super fast clicking can do for your kills per hour. I can usually kill about 40% more when I'm actually trying vs. waiting for it to die, picking up drops, clicking on the next one at an unhurried pace. IF you can though, more power to ya. =D>