Void and Arma breaking point?

[Inuashakent]

We all know that Void is better on monsters with lower defenses, and Arma is better on monsters with higher defenses. Assuming I'm 99 Range with Broad bolts, where exactly do you think this point is at?

 

 

 

The reason I ask is because I see people suggesting Void at KBD, but Black d hide at Irons, which has around the same (if not more!) defense.

[greene8535]

I think it is a preferene thing more than anything when you get to high range levels and high monster defense levels...

 

Some people like high accuracy, but some like high hits :thumbup:

 

Try both!

 

Range pots might make void worth while as well

[Danqazmlp]

Its pretty much teh same argument as training attack or str. Depends on what you want, accuracy or high random hits. Personally i find arma better in most situations.

[Inuashakent]

I guess you guys aren't understanding the question. I'm talking about when is one better on a certain monster? Would it be Iron Dragons? Steel? KBD? Mith?

 

 

 

Edit: Xp/hour isn't preference.

[pulli23]

I guess you guys aren't understanding the question. I'm talking about when is one better on a certain monster? Would it be Iron Dragons? Steel? KBD? Mith?

 

 

 

Edit: Xp/hour isn't preference.

 

 

 

Uhm if you ask which is better you've got something to compare them with: and that thing CAN be xp/hour..

 

 

 

 

 

For xp/hour: well even at lv 85+constantly potting ranged I've experience that EVEN AT irons void is slightly faster each task (and hence more xp/hour) than black dragonhide (+archer helmet/barrowgloves).

 

 

 

Never tested it at the kbd though.. But also consider this: since diamond bolts neglect the opponents defense a lot, diamond bolts + void is a natural choice for bosses!

 

 

 

 

 

Personally the only thing that void lacks is defensive protection... But that's never needed!

[Inuashakent]

No, I mean xp/hour doesn't have to do with opinion, but fact. Thanks, your answer helped.

[ultimatballr]

The only time I don't use my Void is in GWD. On metal tasks I find I get kills faster with Void than black d'hide. I dont own, nor will I own, arma so I can't really give an opinion on that.

 

 

 

I don't know if that helps but its just my experience.

[compfreak847]

I guess you guys aren't understanding the question. I'm talking about when is one better on a certain monster? Would it be Iron Dragons? Steel? KBD? Mith?

 

 

 

Edit: Xp/hour isn't preference.

 

 

 

Uhm if you ask which is better you've got something to compare them with: and that thing CAN be xp/hour..

 

 

 

 

 

For xp/hour: well even at lv 85+constantly potting ranged I've experience that EVEN AT irons void is slightly faster each task (and hence more xp/hour) than black dragonhide (+archer helmet/barrowgloves).

 

 

 

Never tested it at the kbd though.. But also consider this: since diamond bolts neglect the opponents defense a lot, diamond bolts + void is a natural choice for bosses!

 

 

 

 

 

Personally the only thing that void lacks is defensive protection... But that's never needed!

 

Diamond bolts specials are fairly rare; you shouldn't be relying on them in exchange for accuracy. Also, Inuashkant was referring to broad bolts. However, I do agree with you. I have done a fair bit of testing (~9 hours) at clan wars with void vs. karils. Here's what I've found: Void tends to hit higher, and is more accurate compared to verac helm + karils top and bottom + barrows gloves, and considerably more accurate then karils top\verac's skirt. In fact, crystal bow + void resulted in some downright astounding hits - I hit 31-30-32 in one hit sequence, killing my opponent as he was running towards me - and this was a high level player with a triple-digit combat level and bandos (large range bonus). I would say that void is superior for offensive power - however, I have not specifically tested broad bolts (hate 'em). Obviously void rules for low defence, but I'm starting to think that it may be more accurate then karils - I was astounded with my chinning results, getting much more XP and hitting far fewer zeros then with d hide at ape atoll skeles (admittedly, I gained 3 levels, from 92-95, between my void\d hide tests. Still, I'd say void takes the cake - I'd have to do some timed tests at metal drags to settle that for certain, though. Void really fails on defence, but not as much as you might think - I still get a decent bonus with DFS; enough to take care of most dd++ specs, and the fact that I can still barrage\burst with it is handy. Generally not as much of a concern in PVM as PVP, though.

 

 

 

The only time I don't use my Void is in GWD. On metal tasks I find I get kills faster with Void than black d'hide. I dont own, nor will I own, arma so I can't really give an opinion on that.

 

Arma is +5 extra range, along with slightly higher defence and a tiny prayer bonus. It shouldn't change results much compared to d hide - and is certainly not worth the fact that the alch price is so low that almost anything protects over it. I had arma a while ago when I did avansies; sold it when (supposedly) price manipulators pushed the price up 4m or so. At least I got something good out of it. :-#