Unarmed training for magic and ranged

[elk]

My suggestion is: Maybe Magic and Ranged could have an unarmed attack. You can set what style you fight with in the Player Controls menu. For Magic, you fire small bolts of non-elemental energy at the target. For range, you pick up sticks, rocks, or debris and throw it at the target.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Obviously, the magic will be very weak. Same goes for ranged.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Or, perhaps some "Elemental gloves" can be introduced to the game, made from silk, and charged in the same way that tiara's are. They have a set ammount of charges depending on either magic or runecraft level. You can also use elemental runes on them to give more charges. Max charge of 1000. Each unarmed magic attack with elemental gloves equiped counts as 1 charge. Maybe the combonation runes could be used with some uncharged gloves to make lava, mist, mud, dust, smoke and steam runes for added power.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's my crazy idea.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(Don't flame me plx and thnx I appreciate it =X! :-D)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT:

I also thnik we should be able to use a knife with arrow shafts a second time and turn them into wooden arrows, these arrows would be slightly less powerfull and accurate as bronze, and you would never get any back.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks Crim nimora, that's a good idea :-D

[okiebrian]

That's a very good idea. I've always thought that ranged and magic, especially magic, is (are) hard to train without a large bankroll.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Especially at the lower levels, a small amount of xp for rocks thrown/small spells casted would help new players get their feet on the ground.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Obviously, at higher levels, the nominal xp gained would not be worth the time, but by the time you're at a decent magic/ranged lvl, you probably have enough money to fund training with runes and high level arrows.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Overall, great idea. But how about instead of throwing rocks, you could throw chickens and sheep?

[archimage_a]

i think that if u could pick up debrie of the floor it would count as an item and there for oney good in certain areas, unless u collect b4 hand. still the map would be pure red where it was.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the mage is a cool idea, keep me posted (its a really bad pun i know)

[elk]

Maybe just pick up some dirt\gravel\stones... but you wouldn't have to see the item on the ground, it just shows your charector scooping up something and throwing :-)

[Ryanie]

that would be an awesome idea and yeh all the map would be red unless the items which u can pick don't show on the map but also i love the throughing sheep and chicks idea lol :lol:

[Crim_nimora]

very good idea...my idea on magic was basicly the exact same thing....only I got flamed by people who didnt even understand what i was saying..... :(

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I like the idea with the rocks and stuff too..funnyThe gloves couldnt have high parameters or else people would use a staff with them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

but very good idea since there is no way for people to train Range and Mage.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I also thnik we should be able to use a knife with arrow shafts a second time and turn them into wooden arrows, these arrows would be slightly less powerfull and accurate as bronze, and you would never get any back.

[elk]

very good idea...my idea on magic was basicly the exact same thing....only I got flamed by people who didnt even understand what i was saying..... :(

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I like the idea with the rocks and stuff too..funnyThe gloves couldnt have high parameters or else people would use a staff with them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

but very good idea since there is no way for people to train Range and Mage.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I also thnik we should be able to use a knife with arrow shafts a second time and turn them into wooden arrows, these arrows would be slightly less powerfull and accurate as bronze, and you would never get any back.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ty:-) And i like the wooden arrow idea, I'll add it to the main post and give you credit :-)

[willyhenriksen]

could be done with the rocks hitting max 3-4 and the magic was some kind of electric sparks, good idea :D

[lpinkus]

I don't mind the "unarmed" ranging thing. I put the "unarmed" in quotes, because you'd still have to wield the rocks, etc. However, no on the magic. A major tenet of RS is that casting a spell requires runes. Buying or crafting runes is thereore necessary, even if it's difficult at first. I'm a very modest 61 mage and I hardly work on it. Looking back, I never thought I'd have the desire to reach 30, but I did.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lpinkus

[Crim_nimora]

...well I glove idea would fit right into the game

 

 

 

(I had a post with almost the exact same idea only I got flamed :cry: )

 

 

 

Although maybe make them a little harder to power up.

[ShadowSam19]

i love the range idea. Like you said, it would be great for new players, and it make sense, since you can melee unarmed. Plus it would be fun to have rock wars in wild, and the animation would be funny.

[Crim_nimora]

in snowy places maybe you could make snowballs!!!

[kaibani]

I don't mind the "unarmed" ranging thing. I put the "unarmed" in quotes, because you'd still have to wield the rocks, etc. However, no on the magic. A major tenet of RS is that casting a spell requires runes. Buying or crafting runes is thereore necessary, even if it's difficult at first. I'm a very modest 61 mage and I hardly work on it. Looking back, I never thought I'd have the desire to reach 30, but I did.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lpinkus

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i agree. the unarmed range idea is a good idea. but the magic thing, is a nono like lpinkus said. it gives the lower lvls a too easy head start. and still, if you power use the unarmed magic skill, you could still gain quite some lvls. It isn't really that expensive to train magic. As your experience in runescape increases, you'll find your way to lvl up yoru magic like i did. just dont waste your money on those trimmed armors lol. really i hate them regular rune is better. same goes for god armor. even my lvl 103 friend who has over 60 mil only has regular rune. he spends all on stats.

[katsuro0]

i love the range idea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

im giving the url for this topic to jagex :D

[Crim_nimora]

and I'll put it on the suggestion board (with kudos to elk of course)

[elk]

I don't mind the "unarmed" ranging thing. I put the "unarmed" in quotes, because you'd still have to wield the rocks, etc. However, no on the magic. A major tenet of RS is that casting a spell requires runes. Buying or crafting runes is thereore necessary, even if it's difficult at first. I'm a very modest 61 mage and I hardly work on it. Looking back, I never thought I'd have the desire to reach 30, but I did.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lpinkus

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do you realsie how weak the bolts will be? 0-5 damage will be max on plated armour..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, attack style could be changed in the player controls menu (Running\emotes menu) so no equiping rocks :-D

[Domovoi]

That'd be nice idea, I'm pretty sure I once read someone suggesting the stones as well. Maybe you could make it so you can only get the stones from certain areas to help prevent the minimap being covered with red dots? :)

[Crim_nimora]

Red dots are not an issue, you pick them up and throw them, and at no point would they go into your inventory.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Elk I think you may want to bring down the max damage on the bolts though, the max hit you can do with air strike is 2, and thats with runes.

[lpinkus]

That'd be nice idea, I'm pretty sure I once read someone suggesting the stones as well. Maybe you could make it so you can only get the stones from certain areas to help prevent the minimap being covered with red dots? :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I like this idea, to prevent the red dots. Crim, your thing about "at no point would they be in your inv" doesn't fly, I think. There's nothing like that in the game so far. You chop logs, then light/fletch with them. You pick a sword in your inv, then wield it, you pick up runes, then use them for spells, etc. The invenory system is very clean as is; changing it so someone can throw stones doesn't make sense.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lpinkus

[Crim_nimora]

No dude look the rocks wouldn't have to be real items. You choose to ranged and then when you attack something you player would bend over look like hes picking something up, and then throw it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If it goes in your inventory then you would have to click several times and it would also mean, that you pick the rock up put it in your backpack take it out and throw it, see?

[lpinkus]

No dude look the rocks wouldn't have to be real items. You choose to ranged and then when you attack something you player would bend over look like hes picking something up, and then throw it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If it goes in your inventory then you would have to click several times and it would also mean, that you pick the rock up put it in your backpack take it out and throw it, see?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I understand what you said. I'm saying that it's not likely to be implemented since it's different than any other form of attack. Runescape takes a lot of clicking, as you may have noticed :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lpinkus

[Crim_nimora]

unarmed melee doesnt require multiple clicks, why should range or magic?? (if it was implemented without weapons)

[ShadowSam19]

Crim is right. It would be just like unarmed melee, except under some menu (prob the one where you choose kick, punch, block) Then the character would simply bend over, do a scooping motion, and throw, simple as that. Whoever suggested snow balls in snowy areas, that is a great idea. This is overall a great idea, and would be fun, if not practical, idea.

[lpinkus]

unarmed melee doesnt require multiple clicks, why should range or magic?? (if it was implemented without weapons)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Reread what you just said. UNARMED melee. UNARMED. You need no inventory spot for your fists/feet. Come to think of it, you already can pick up rocks and chunks of rocks, as found at the digsite. If you want "throwing rocks," stackable or not, they oughta be in the inventory. Like I've said twice now, everything else in runescape (except unarmed melee) works this way; pick up, use.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Crim is right. It would be just like unarmed melee, except under some menu (prob the one where you choose kick, punch, block) Then the character would simply bend over, do a scooping motion, and throw, simple as that. Whoever suggested snow balls in snowy areas, that is a great idea. This is overall a great idea, and would be fun, if not practical, idea.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Again, it can't be just like unarmed mellee as far as I'm concerned. And, if you want snowballs, too, sure! But guess what? Yup. First you pick up the snow, then select "form snowball," (I bet some of you will want crafting xp for that), then "wield snowball" or "use snowball with/throw snowball at noob87763."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I already said I like this ranging idea, but not the magic one. Still, it needs this extra step or the xp comes too easy, even if it's minimal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lpinkus

[zemog]

I agree with crim.

 

 

 

The rocks would never go into your inventory, they go from the ground into your unarmed hand and instantly towards the enemy, you would NOT have to get rocks before and you wouldn't have to go to a special place to get the rocks. Rocks wouldn't appear as read dots, it would be assumed that there are small rocks and pebbles all over the ground in runescape. You could NOT pick up a rock and keep it for later.