jaklumen Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 Running 1.7 Ghz CPU, 512 MB RAM, Windows XP. NVIDIA GeForce2 MX video card. Mouse pointer keeps freezing up when I play RS, more especially if I'm surfing at the same time. I think I need to upgrade my video card but I'm not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moeziz Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 I play RS a bit on a system with similar stats to that (except 1.4, not 1.7GHz) No probs - What browser are you using to play? Have you fully updated windows? (windowsupdate.com) Any other strange problems with your mouse ever? or is it just the regular boring old microsoft mouse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaklumen Posted July 5, 2005 Author Share Posted July 5, 2005 Just increased virtual memory size, minimum to 768MB. By request here is a HJT log: Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1 Scan saved at 3:21:57 AM, on 7/5/2005 Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600) MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP2 (6.00.2900.2180) Running processes: C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss[Caution: ExecutableFile] C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon[Caution: ExecutableFile] C:\WINDOWS\system32\services[Caution: ExecutableFile] C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass[Caution: ExecutableFile] C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost[Caution: ExecutableFile] C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost[Caution: ExecutableFile] C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSetMgr[Caution: ExecutableFile] C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SPBBC\SPBBCSvc[Caution: ExecutableFile] C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccEvtMgr[Caution: ExecutableFile] C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv[Caution: ExecutableFile] C:\WINDOWS\System32\cisvc[Caution: ExecutableFile] C:\WINDOWS\system32\crypserv[Caution: ExecutableFile] C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\navapsvc[Caution: ExecutableFile] C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\IWP\NPFMntor[Caution: ExecutableFile] C:\Program Files\Norton Utilities\NPROTECT[Caution: ExecutableFile] C:\WINDOWS\System32\nvsvc32[Caution: ExecutableFile] C:\Program Files\Speed Disk\nopdb[Caution: ExecutableFile] C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\CCPD-LC\symlcsvc[Caution: ExecutableFile] C:\WINDOWS\system32\ZoneLabs\vsmon[Caution: ExecutableFile] C:\WINDOWS\System32\MsPMSPSv[Caution: ExecutableFile] C:\WINDOWS\Explorer[Caution: ExecutableFile] C:\WINDOWS\System32\spool\DRIVERS\W32X86\3\CMPDPSRV[Caution: ExecutableFile] C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp[Caution: ExecutableFile] C:\Program Files\Zone Labs\ZoneAlarm\zlclient[Caution: ExecutableFile] C:\Program Files\Parental Filter\ParentalFilter[Caution: ExecutableFile] C:\Program Files\CallWave\IAM[Caution: ExecutableFile] C:\Program Files\Norton Utilities\SYSDOC32[Caution: ExecutableFile] C:\WINDOWS\system32\msiexec[Caution: ExecutableFile] C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\1033\msoffice[Caution: ExecutableFile] C:\Program Files\Trillian\trillian[Caution: ExecutableFile] C:\WINDOWS\system32\taskmgr[Caution: ExecutableFile] C:\Documents and Settings\John\Desktop\HijackThis[Caution: ExecutableFile] C:\WINDOWS\system32\cidaemon[Caution: ExecutableFile] C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox[Caution: ExecutableFile] C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs[Caution: ExecutableFile] O2 - BHO: (no name) - {53707962-6F74-2D53-2644-206D7942484F} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYBOT~1\SDHelper.dll O2 - BHO: NAV Helper - {BDF3E430-B101-42AD-A544-FADC6B084872} - C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\NavShExt.dll O3 - Toolbar: Norton AntiVirus - {42CDD1BF-3FFB-4238-8AD1-7859DF00B1D6} - C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\NavShExt.dll O3 - Toolbar: Accoona - {364B6276-C6C1-40B6-A6D7-6C48871FD707} - C:\PROGRA~1\Accoona\atoolbar.dll O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvCplDaemon] RUNDLL32[Caution: ExecutableFile] C:\WINDOWS\System32\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [CMPDPSRV] C:\WINDOWS\System32\spool\DRIVERS\W32X86\3\CMPDPSRV[Caution: ExecutableFile] O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [nwiz] nwiz[Caution: ExecutableFile] /install O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ccApp] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp[Caution: ExecutableFile]" O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Zone Labs Client] "C:\Program Files\Zone Labs\ZoneAlarm\zlclient[Caution: ExecutableFile]" O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ParentalFilter] C:\Program Files\Parental Filter\ParentalFilter[Caution: ExecutableFile] O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "C:\Program Files\QuickTime\qttask[Caution: ExecutableFile]" -atboottime O4 - Global Startup: Internet Answering Machine.lnk = C:\Program Files\CallWave\IAM[Caution: ExecutableFile] O4 - Global Startup: Microsoft Office.lnk = C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\OSA9[Caution: ExecutableFile] O4 - Global Startup: Norton System Doctor.lnk = C:\Program Files\Norton Utilities\SYSDOC32[Caution: ExecutableFile] O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_02\bin\npjpi150_02.dll O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Sun Java Console - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_02\bin\npjpi150_02.dll O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {4528BBE0-4E08-11D5-AD55-00010333D0AD} - C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Messenger\yhexbmes0411.dll O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Yahoo! Messenger - {4528BBE0-4E08-11D5-AD55-00010333D0AD} - C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Messenger\yhexbmes0411.dll O9 - Extra button: AIM - {AC9E2541-2814-11d5-BC6D-00B0D0A1DE45} - F:\PROGRA~1\AIM95\aim[Caution: ExecutableFile] O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs[Caution: ExecutableFile] O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs[Caution: ExecutableFile] O16 - DPF: {04E214E5-63AF-4236-83C6-A7ADCBF9BD02} (HouseCall Control) - http://housecall60.trendmicro.com/housecall/xscan60.cab O16 - DPF: {0E5F0222-96B9-11D3-8997-00104BD12D94} (PCPitstop Utility) - http://www.pcpitstop.com/pcpitstop/PCPitStop.CAB O17 - HKLM\System\CCS\Services\Tcpip\..\{495E03B1-B470-4BDF-85B4-CB0FECC9DAFD}: NameServer = 209.244.0.3 209.244.0.4 O23 - Service: Symantec Event Manager (ccEvtMgr) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccEvtMgr[Caution: ExecutableFile] O23 - Service: Symantec Password Validation (ccPwdSvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccPwdSvc[Caution: ExecutableFile] O23 - Service: Symantec Settings Manager (ccSetMgr) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSetMgr[Caution: ExecutableFile] O23 - Service: Crypkey License - Kenonic Controls Ltd. - C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\crypserv[Caution: ExecutableFile] O23 - Service: Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect Service (navapsvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\navapsvc[Caution: ExecutableFile] O23 - Service: Norton AntiVirus Firewall Monitor Service (NPFMntor) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\IWP\NPFMntor[Caution: ExecutableFile] O23 - Service: Norton Unerase Protection (NProtectService) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Norton Utilities\NPROTECT[Caution: ExecutableFile] O23 - Service: NVIDIA Display Driver Service (NVSvc) - NVIDIA Corporation - C:\WINDOWS\System32\nvsvc32[Caution: ExecutableFile] O23 - Service: SAVScan - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\SAVScan[Caution: ExecutableFile] O23 - Service: ScriptBlocking Service (SBService) - Symantec Corporation - C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\SYMANT~1\SCRIPT~1\SBServ[Caution: ExecutableFile] O23 - Service: Symantec Network Drivers Service (SNDSrvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SNDSrvc[Caution: ExecutableFile] O23 - Service: Symantec SPBBCSvc (SPBBCSvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SPBBC\SPBBCSvc[Caution: ExecutableFile] O23 - Service: Speed Disk service - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Speed Disk\nopdb[Caution: ExecutableFile] O23 - Service: Symantec Core LC - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\CCPD-LC\symlcsvc[Caution: ExecutableFile] O23 - Service: SymWMI Service (SymWSC) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\Security Center\SymWSC[Caution: ExecutableFile] O23 - Service: TrueVector Internet Monitor (vsmon) - Zone Labs, LLC - C:\WINDOWS\system32\ZoneLabs\vsmon[Caution: ExecutableFile] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binyam Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 i'll look at the HJT log later when ive had some sleep, but after talking to jaklumen in IRC, it really seems to me that the problem stems from him loading so many processes from the boot (41 i think). I think it needs to be trimmed down quite a bit to fit the amount of RAM he has. Anyone have any other ideas that my tired eyes didnt see? /me kicks Norton for being such a memory hog... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercifull Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 Its not a bad log but without seeing how much memory each process takes up I cant really advise you on what to lose and keep etc. The Office toolbar is a bit of a hog so remove C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\1033\msoffice[Caution: ExecutableFile] and O4 - Global Startup: Microsoft Office.lnk = C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\OSA9[Caution: ExecutableFile]. The Parental Filter probasbly takes up load sof memory too. Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
den160593 Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 Topic like this posted here. You might get some info about it there dunno never happened to me so I don't know how to fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binyam Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 Topic like this posted here. You might get some info about it there dunno never happened to me so I don't know how to fix. I think you misunderstand. This problem is only happening to him when he is running RS. RS is a huge memory hog and if you have tons of other junk running at the same time, your just asking for trouble. Jaklumen, my advise to you is to look at each of the processes that run from the boot, and decide if it is something you need all the time (obviously firewall and active spyware and virus protection are needed). if its any of the other junk, you most likely dont need it running at all times. For a list of programs that load on boot go to: Start > Run... > type regedit > click ok > HKey_Local_Machine > Software > Microsoft > Windows > Current Version > Run and Start > Run... > type regedit > click ok > HKey_Current_User > Software > Microsoft > Windows > Current Version > Run Be sure about what you are deleting from these locations, but as a general rule, the only things that I load on boot with my systems is FW/AV/Spyware and Trillian. Anything else is not really needed. Also using Cntrl+Alt+Del and clicking the processes tab gives you a list of processes that are currently running on your box. Once again, be sure of what you are looking at and deleting (Google helps a lot), but once you have identified what each process is, you can use this tool to kill some proccesses that are not needed at the time. I use it often to free up memory on big tasks. I hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaklumen Posted July 8, 2005 Author Share Posted July 8, 2005 Cross-checked regedit with msconfig. I'm running the latest build of MS JVM and this seems to help a *lot*. I'm not sure if I will go with your idea of using bsafe yet, Binyam, but do you (or anyone else) know how the memory use is for AVG? I'm thinking of maybe using this instead because I know everyone agrees that NAV is a memory hog. EDIT: I think I'll disable System Doctor from startup, I think I remember that's a bit of a resource hog too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaklumen Posted July 8, 2005 Author Share Posted July 8, 2005 Well, I'm not running RS and it froze up. Giving NOD32 a test run to see how it fares vs. Norton. Got some infected files (spyware and I think a trojan) so other problems are afoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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