Dire_Wolf Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I have wireless, and there's really something real bad with wireless network. I keep disconenction and losing my internett all the time... So i wanna use a ethernet cord (I hope that's right), and then connect to internett using that. But, when i did that i did not get a connection icon and neither did i get connection. I got Windows XP which is a pirate copy, and the Microsoft blue star prevents me from updates. So does anyone have any suggestions what could be the problem and how to solve it please? P.S We have other computers in house and they use ethernet cord to connect to internett, and it works well and without problems. So please help if you can :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Do the other computers also have a pirated copy? If not, it's safe to assume it's the pirated copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted November 20, 2008 Author Share Posted November 20, 2008 Well i don't know for sure if others were pirated, but the Geniuine blue star from Microsoft weren't there around 3 years ago i think. But yes i believe others have had XP reinstalled using a pirate copy. As their copy weren't installed recently like mine was. Anyhow i found that driver for "Ethernet Controller" has not been installed. Can someone please explain what Ethernet controller is? I tried finding out myself and found out something about Locale Network area. I can guess that the Ethernet controller is the thing that connects to internett using the ethernet cord that you take from a router? I know for sure i don't have a driver for the Ethernet controller, and i know that when i plug ethernet cord in computer i don't get up internett connection for non wireless. So can Ethernet controller have something with it to do? Also if you install Windows XP from Windows Vista Premium, will the boot system (to reinstall Vista) still be there or have i ruined that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloter Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Possibly your router is not secure or someone has gotten in and is tapering? Your ethernet port is obviously for an ethernet cord aka cat5(Category 5). The driver for that in windows is what runs that piece of hardware in Windows XP so that the OS will work with the hardware. So yes the controller could have something to do with it. What does having a pirated copy of windows have to do with this? Sure it could have gotten tapered with but you know that it is against the rules here to discuss of that. I don't know where you brought it up to make people think your the cool guy with a pirated copy or what but people seem to do stuff like that here on TIF. It think it would be your best bet not to bring that up and not bring it up in the future in other post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted November 21, 2008 Author Share Posted November 21, 2008 I did it because my Vista had problems... Programs i needed did not work. Anyhow, i need to say it again because it might have with problem to do. The Ethernet controller is for the Cord port right? Obviously the driver for this is not installed, and neither can i update as i have been blocked off from updates. So couldn't that be the reason? As for pirating, i did what i did but it's nothing cool to do it and i did it because i were forced and i did not have great knowledge. So i hope we can discuss it, as it can be the problem. The router is new and yes it's not secured. But we live in middle of nowhere, are you sure that even in such location someone can ruin the connection? (We got 1 neighbour across road and that's it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwinner16 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Make sure your laptop is plugged into the wall. Most laptops auto disable the built in ethernet ports to save battery life. If the battery is plugged in, make sure you disable your wireless connection(either using the switch) or going into Network Connections( Start, Control Panel, Network connections), and while you are there, also make sure that the ethernet connection is Enabled. Even using a pirated copy, You can get the updates to your laptop using a backdoor, if I'm not mistaken. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't you manually go in and save a copy of every update to a formatted external harddrive, plug it in to the laptop, and then just resave it on laptop? Live life to the fullest, or don't live at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted November 21, 2008 Author Share Posted November 21, 2008 I don't got a laptop, i don't know what you would call it. But it's opposite of a laptop, i think i got the right word for somewhere in my mind but right now it's clean lol. Anyhow, despite i pirated the OS i am not encouraging others to do so. I downloaded XP after i experienced problems with Mozilla and AVG. I could have bought a computer with XP, but i got it as a gift and to be computers with XP seems to get wiped out. But i blame myself for doing such stupid thing and reinstalling XP after i found problems with Mozilla and AVG. I also found XP better in a way because i have used it for very long time, and i heard Vista was bad (Which is kinda true).. But a question: Despite me installing XP, i had Vista premium...does my computer still have the chance to use the BOOT thingy to reinstall Vista? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooberman Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 But a question: Despite me installing XP, i had Vista premium...does my computer still have the chance to use the BOOT thingy to reinstall Vista? Depends. Did you have a recovery disk with the vista computer? or did you have to create your own when you first got the computer (most people don't do this in my experience). It may be that you have a recovery partition, as long as the partition wasn't wiped/written over when you installed xp you may be able to. With regards to the xp wired connection, no two ways about it you need the driver. It may be able to use one of the bult in xp drivers but it sounds like it hasn't so you need that driver. Who installed xp for you, they should have installed your network card really. Network cards are very cheap though so you could save time by buying a new one and installing it in the computer. Ideally you should get somebody who knows what they are doing to fix your computer. Either way Good Luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted November 21, 2008 Author Share Posted November 21, 2008 I installed XP myself. But here's what i have tried. I went to Acer's support site (Drivers and Utilities): http://support.acer-euro.com/drivers/de ... l5100.html From there i choosed Acer Aspire L5100 and downloaded "LAN" driver. Because that's why i don't get internett wired, and thats why it does not detect. My ethernet controller has no driver installed... I downladed Lan Driver and Extracted it to my documents. From there i went to Computer>Properties>Hardware>Devicesmanager>Ethernet controller From here i chose "Install driver", and then i took options to "Choose location myself". I chosed the Extracted Lan folder in My documents. But it still haven't worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbrideau Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 and i heard Vista was bad (Which is kinda true).. http://www.mojaveexperiment.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwinner16 Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Go to your hardware manager, windows calls it device manager, but it lists all your hardware, so whatev. Go there and make sure that the ethernet port is enabled. If it is, make sure that you only have 1 enabled. Sometimes motherboards have one built in, and if you buy an adaptor, they can sometimes conflict causing problems. If they are both active, I would choose the better of the two(most of the time its the adaptor bought seperately). If that doesn't work, try to install the updates again, but let the installation choose the default installation destination instead of choosing it manually. Do the same for wireless, but if you are going to use both on a computer, you are going to have to choose one. The post I left when I thought you were using a laptop still applies. If you have the wireless connection and wired connection on at the same time, your computer can get confused and not recognize either one, but from the sound of it, your not at that step yet. And if you can't find the drivers, or the drivers dont make it work, go back to your hardware manager and right click your ethernet adaptor and select update drivers. Somehow you have to be connected to the internet, but from your posts, it sounds like you already can be if you want to. Live life to the fullest, or don't live at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 I installed XP myself. But here's what i have tried. I went to Acer's support site (Drivers and Utilities): http://support.acer-euro.com/drivers/de ... l5100.html From there i choosed Acer Aspire L5100 and downloaded "LAN" driver. Because that's why i don't get internett wired, and thats why it does not detect. My ethernet controller has no driver installed... I downladed Lan Driver and Extracted it to my documents. From there i went to Computer>Properties>Hardware>Devicesmanager>Ethernet controller From here i chose "Install driver", and then i took options to "Choose location myself". I chosed the Extracted Lan folder in My documents. But it still haven't worked. Acer is really bad about driver support in my opinion. My sister bought an Acer X1200, with no drivers for the video, sound, or wireless card (one she installed herself, which the system recognized as a 56k modem). I'll take a look and see if I find anything. Also, about Vista, it was bad when it was first released, because it didn't work on all computers, it wasn't compatible with certain hardware, and it was/is extremely sluggish without the correct hardware, which made the transition difficult. However, multiple updates to Vista has fixed this problem. I wouldn't put it on something with like a low end processor and less than 2GB of RAM though. EDIT: Yup, all the links on the Acer website for driver support me tell my that it's an invalid URL. :-# I went to the Pan America support though, and it gave me more options than the Europe option. But I had to tackle the glitchy flash box that constantly wanted to know what system I had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 I installed XP myself. But here's what i have tried. I went to Acer's support site (Drivers and Utilities): http://support.acer-euro.com/drivers/de ... l5100.html From there i choosed Acer Aspire L5100 and downloaded "LAN" driver. Because that's why i don't get internett wired, and thats why it does not detect. My ethernet controller has no driver installed... I downladed Lan Driver and Extracted it to my documents. From there i went to Computer>Properties>Hardware>Devicesmanager>Ethernet controller From here i chose "Install driver", and then i took options to "Choose location myself". I chosed the Extracted Lan folder in My documents. But it still haven't worked. Acer is really bad about driver support in my opinion. My sister bought an Acer X1200, with no drivers for the video, sound, or wireless card (one she installed herself, which the system recognized as a 56k modem). I'll take a look and see if I find anything. Also, about Vista, it was bad when it was first released, because it didn't work on all computers, it wasn't compatible with certain hardware, and it was/is extremely sluggish without the correct hardware, which made the transition difficult. However, multiple updates to Vista has fixed this problem. I wouldn't put it on something with like a low end processor and less than 2GB of RAM though. EDIT: Yup, all the links on the Acer website for driver support me tell my that it's an invalid URL. :-# I went to the Pan America support though, and it gave me more options than the Europe option. But I had to tackle the glitchy flash box that constantly wanted to know what system I had. Thanks for taking your time to check for me Laura, that's really nice of you. But did you find any drivers that would suit my Acer Aspire L5100? I need one for Ethernet controller. Obviously it is LAN. But i went to Europe custom support, and downloaded the LAN+Modem driver, and none of them worked when i went to Device Manager>Ethernet controller>Install driver>From there i choosed location of the drivers on my computer. Here's picture of both folders when extracted: [hide=LAN][/hide] [hide=Modem][/hide] The folder with LAN driver had no file that resemblances a setup file for a driver. I know how a setup file usually is, and a player with name starting "00" in Forsaken's chat told me to look for a setup file and also with "[Caution: Executable File]" at the end. I did that but did not find such file in LAN folder. The Modem folder did have a setup kinda file, and i clicked it but all i got was to install "Modem drivers" and after the installion was done it goes away and i don't have a clue what i installed. and where it is. Go to your hardware manager, windows calls it device manager, but it lists all your hardware, so whatev. Go there and make sure that the ethernet port is enabled. If it is, make sure that you only have 1 enabled. Sometimes motherboards have one built in, and if you buy an adaptor, they can sometimes conflict causing problems. If they are both active, I would choose the better of the two(most of the time its the adaptor bought seperately). If that doesn't work, try to install the updates again, but let the installation choose the default installation destination instead of choosing it manually. Do the same for wireless, but if you are going to use both on a computer, you are going to have to choose one. The post I left when I thought you were using a laptop still applies. If you have the wireless connection and wired connection on at the same time, your computer can get confused and not recognize either one, but from the sound of it, your not at that step yet. And if you can't find the drivers, or the drivers dont make it work, go back to your hardware manager and right click your ethernet adaptor and select update drivers. Somehow you have to be connected to the internet, but from your posts, it sounds like you already can be if you want to. I am connected to internett because my connection is unstable, and i decided to get internet with a ethernet cord. So i have no problem chosing 1 (Wireless or Wired connection), but problem is i don't have driver installed for Ethernet controller. So when i plug in ethernet cord, it ain't detected and i won't get connection. I have pirated copy of Windows xp (Please don't complain to me about why i do), so i can't acess updates :cry: Blue star... Also can you please direct me where to find the "Ethernet port"? Cause in device manager i can't seem to find it. Be more directive please :thumbup: Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwinner16 Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Under "Network Adaptors" is where both of mine are located. If you right click them, select update drivers. I'll try to find updates that match what you are looking for, give me a little while, playin Halo 3. http://www.acerpanam.com/flex/acer/bin/ ... tedIndex=1 and find the model you need. Live life to the fullest, or don't live at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbrideau Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Under "Network Adaptors" is where both of mine are located. If you right click them, select update drivers. I'll try to find updates that match what you are looking for, give me a little while, playin Halo 3. That's the last thing you want to do. This will try to get the updates form Mircrosoft, and that's not what we usually want, that's a last resort. Microsoft's drivers are either outdated drivers from the company or a driver they made themselves, which usually sucks. Usually you go to the computer manufacturer's website and you find the drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 Under "Network Adaptors" is where both of mine are located. If you right click them, select update drivers. I'll try to find updates that match what you are looking for, give me a little while, playin Halo 3. http://www.acerpanam.com/flex/acer/bin/ ... tedIndex=1 and find the model you need. Again i got pirated Windows xp, so i am blocked from updates. I tried the Pan American download for LAN. The Realtek Lan Driver. But it's just the same one as the one in Europe, just with a different name. Thanks for suggestion though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Sorry, I didn't find anything else. And Acer won't help you with a pirated anything. Push comes to shove: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16837116193 I think that could be an answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 Thanks for your help anyway Laura. You helped me and our conclusion is that: Acer support is not the best. I called Custom support on a Norwegian line. The guy who i got directed to was Swedish, and he misunderstand me and my brother tons! For example, my brother tried asking if there was a chance that my computer still had the "Reboot" setup despite me installing XP. Reboot setup: Setup for Vista Premium, incase computer gets messed up. So my brother said "You see, on other computer which is a Packardbell there is a "Reboot" setup so i was wondering if the reboot is still in my brother (Me) computer despite him installing XP?" The guy misunderstood big time, and he thought my brother was asking if Packardbell had the reboot setup-.- After that we came to thing that he could send us Vista CD i think (Not sure, the guy was speaking swedish!) and then he said he needed the DATE when the computer was bought and without it he could not help us. I have no idea when it was bought, my other brother bought it for my birthday and i don't know if he bought it before handed or on same day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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