REFINING ARMOR/WEAPONS

[kaibani]

I think that runescape should have more of a variety of armors. So, instead of making more names and colors and designs for other armors, why not let the players refine/upgrade them? Refining the weapons would give the weapons/armor extra attack or str bonuses, depending on what you are refining. To refine an armor/weapon, you will first need to complete a quest for it, which i will not make up because it will take too long :( . Anyways, more on the refining. After you complete the quest, you will now be able to ask the dwarf next the the ice cave opening(the one you met for the knight's sword quest) to refine your armor/weapons. There are several materials you need to obtain first to refine an armor.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Low Ether, Ether, High Ether, Estricate, Hime, Iricer, Mage blood, Demon blood, Dragon blood. (ps, i ripped some these names from another game cuz i really couldnt think of others :P)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gray powder, black powder, green powder, red powder, yellow powder, orange powder, metallic powder, silver powder, golden powder.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Netil, Metil, Etil

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mana ores

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now, the way this is going to work is that every kind of weapon, due to refining can upgrade a lvl. For example.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rune scimitar = 45 str bonus (forgot if this is right :/, correct me if im wrong)

 

 

 

Rune scimitar(1) = 47 str bonus

 

 

 

Rune scimitar(2) = 49 str bonus

 

 

 

Rune scimitar(3) = 52 str bonus

 

 

 

Rune scimitar(4) = 55 str bonus

 

 

 

Rune scimitar(5) = 58 str bonus

 

 

 

Rune scimitar(6) = 61 str bonus

 

 

 

Saint Rune scimitar(6) = 70 str bonus, +7 accuracy, +10 magic atk bonus

 

 

 

Dark Rune scimitar(6) = 70 str bonus, +7 accuracy, +1 atk speed

 

 

 

Golden Rune scimitar(6) = 70 str bonus, +7 accuracy, +1 damage

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*it will be the same addition for the armor, but the special add ons will be different.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ex. of last 3 upgrade of armor:(remember, i did not add on like the previous example, so it is merely an example, because you get the idea)

 

 

 

Saint Rune plate(6) = 70 def, +10 max hp

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Locations of monsters and % of drops of materials:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Low Ether: Abberant Spectar, 8% drop

 

 

 

Ether: Abberant Spectar, 7% drop

 

 

 

High Ether: Abberant Spectar, 5% drop

 

 

 

Estricate: Asyn Shade, 5% drop

 

 

 

Hime: Slash Bash, 5% drop

 

 

 

Iricer: Ice troll, 3% drop

 

 

 

Mage blood: Hell Hound, 3% drop

 

 

 

Demon blood: Abyssal demon, 3% drop

 

 

 

Dragon blood: King black dragon, 3% drop

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I tried to pick the monsters that dropped close to nothing, or crappy stuff, so that it will not only be harder, but also less amusing to gather, and make the prices high.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Netil, Metil, or Etil can be obtained from the dwarf. The prices are as follows:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Netil: 10,000gp

 

 

 

Metil: 20,000gp

 

 

 

Etil: 40,000gp

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To obtain the powders, you must make them. The quality, or type of powder you come up with depends on your crafting and smithing lvl. You will have access to a secret dungeon where you can mine mana ore. To make a powder, you must smith 8 mana ores with a Netil, Metil, or Etil. Netil allows you to come up with either gray, black, or green powder. Metil allows you to come up wtih either red, yellow, or orange powder. Etil allows you to come up wtih either metallic, silver, or golden powder.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here are the requirements.

 

 

 

*only armor and weapons that are or above the adament class can be upgraded. You must complete every lvl in order to upgrade to the next lvl. After you get to lvl 6, you will have the option to go on into Saint, Dark, or Golden.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For Adament weapon/armor upgrade:

 

 

 

(1)- 1 low ether, 2 gray powder

 

 

 

(2)- 1 ether, 2 black powder

 

 

 

(3)- 1 high ether, 2 green powder

 

 

 

(4)- 1 estricate, 2 red powder

 

 

 

(5)- 1 hime, 2 yellow powder

 

 

 

(6)- 1 iricer, 2 orange powder

 

 

 

Saint(6)- 1 mage blood, 2 metallic powder

 

 

 

Dark(6)- 1 demon blood, 2 silver powder

 

 

 

Golden(6)- 1 dragon blood, 2 golden powder

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For Rune weapon/armor upgrade:

 

 

 

(1)- 2 low ether, 4 gray powder

 

 

 

(2)- 2 ether, 4 black powder

 

 

 

(3)- 2 high ether, 4 green powder

 

 

 

(4)- 2 estricate, 4 red powder

 

 

 

(5)- 2 hime, 4 yellow powder

 

 

 

(6)- 2 iricer, 4 orange powder

 

 

 

Saint(6)- 2 mage blood, 4 metallic powder

 

 

 

Dark(6)- 2 demon blood, 4 silver powder

 

 

 

Golden(6)- 2 dragon blood, 4 golden powder

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Upgrade for Dragon weapons/armor:

 

 

 

(1)- 4 low ether, 8 gray powder

 

 

 

(2)- 4 ether, 8 black powder

 

 

 

(3)- 4 high ether, 8 green powder

 

 

 

(4)- 4 estricate, 8 red powder

 

 

 

(5)- 4 hime, 8 yellow powder

 

 

 

(6)- 4 iricer, 8 orange powder

 

 

 

Saint(6)- 6 mage blood, 8 metallic powder

 

 

 

Dark(6)- 6 demon blood, 8 silver powder

 

 

 

Golden(6)- 6 dragon blood, 8 golden powder

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The cost for every lvl upgrade will be the same, 20,000 gp.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyways, some last things to perfect my idea.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-Lvl requirement for quest: 70 combat, completion of "knight's sword quest".

 

 

 

-Mana ore will give 5 mining exp, and will respawn like clay.

 

 

 

-Location of Mana Ore will be further deeper in the ice cave. There will be a odd looking wall. When you click on it, a dwarf will ask for a password. The password is "redberry pie", and will be usable after the "Armor refining" quest.

 

 

 

-In the Mana ore cave, there will be 20 rocks, and Ice dwarfs that will atk you every 5 ores you mine. They will appear from the ground as well. They may drop all types of powders up to orange.

 

 

 

-lvl 50 crafting is the minimum to create any powders. The higher your crafting lvl, the higher chance you'll have to make the best of the 3 ores of each set your making. (ex. if you have lvl 70 crafting, and you try to make a powder from the red, yellow, orange set, you'll have a good possiblity to make orange powders.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's what I think runescape should add in. Any thoughts? :wink:

[Lord_Muijs]

i love the idea, very well thought out, but, to make it harder, i dont think abyssal demons are good monsters to drop those materials, whips are still 6-7 mil and not very rarely dropped.

[kaibani]

i love the idea, very well thought out, but, to make it harder, i dont think abyssal demons are good monsters to drop those materials, whips are still 6-7 mil and not very rarely dropped.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

but i think you need at least 85 slayer to kill...or i read something wrong lol.

[Lord_Muijs]

 

i love the idea, very well thought out, but, to make it harder, i dont think abyssal demons are good monsters to drop those materials, whips are still 6-7 mil and not very rarely dropped.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

but i think you need at least 85 slayer to kill...or i read something wrong lol.

 

 

 

yea your right, that stuff would be quite rare then if it was only dropped by abyssal demons, still, for someone with 85 slayer it would be very easy to get

[kaibani]

 

 

i love the idea, very well thought out, but, to make it harder, i dont think abyssal demons are good monsters to drop those materials, whips are still 6-7 mil and not very rarely dropped.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

but i think you need at least 85 slayer to kill...or i read something wrong lol.

 

 

 

yea your right, that stuff would be quite rare then if it was only dropped by abyssal demons, still, for someone with 85 slayer it would be very easy to get

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lol are we trying to get the refining material or abyssal whip? :P

[Crim_nimora]

Most people dont understand why coal is used to make ores.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Coal burns and this refines the metal, so further refining them is impossible.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And to be able to further refine dragon things means to destroy it and remove the imperfections of the material, which I dont think can be done.

[kaibani]

Most people dont understand why coal is used to make ores.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Coal burns and this refines the metal, so further refining them is impossible.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And to be able to further refine dragon things means to destroy it and remove the imperfections of the material, which I dont think can be done.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

it's runescape, an mmorpg, aka a game, not real life. also, if you think that it wouldn't make that much sense with the current explanation, then think of it as a "magical" refining. ok?

[Crim_nimora]

You mean enchanting?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But would you be able to "refine" barrows too?

[kaibani]

You mean enchanting?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But would you be able to "refine" barrows too?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

barrows?

[Crim_nimora]

You know the corrupted tainted sets of armor and weapons you have can get.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Can you enhance those as well?

[kaibani]

You know the corrupted tainted sets of armor and weapons you have can get.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Can you enhance those as well?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

um, well, before i even get to the "barrows", i gotta think about the mage's robes and dragon hide armor as well. and i havent thought of anything for those yet.

[Chaosbringer]

Good Idea, far better than the run of the mill Blaizeken type suggestion's.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~Chaosbringer

[Lord_Muijs]

Most people dont understand why coal is used to make ores.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Coal burns and this refines the metal, so further refining them is impossible.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And to be able to further refine dragon things means to destroy it and remove the imperfections of the material, which I dont think can be done.

 

 

 

dude, this is runescape, it doesnt have to be extremely realistic.

 

 

 

is killing a giant bug and picking up a dragon chainbody from its corpse realistic?? or is wielding 456143131654316456131 arrows in your quiver realistic??

[lcandy]

Very cool idea, although perhaps a little over complicated. A slightly dumbed down version of this though could fairly easily, and positively affect the combat system. Oh wait, this is where the mages and rangers would complain like crazy because they would see it as being outdone. If this kind of thing would be done, I would say rangers as well should be able to refine their bows.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I had a similar idea where you could "wear a weapon in" (or armour) and make minor modifications to them, nothing quite as detailed as this though.

[lpinkus]

I don't understand. Weapons and Armor, as Crim basically said, are made from metals that are already refined before the items are smithed. Maybe you mean "enhanced," so that there would be, say, a regular rune plate, a trimmed rune plate (no bonuses), and an enhanced rune plate (has bonuses).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is that what you mean? If so....no :) I think there is plenty of armor as it is. In fact, I believe the reason for decorative armor is to give players more variety (which is what you asked for) without having to create new bonuses for those armors.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But, if there still aren't enough kinds of armor for ya, well, I dunno. Maybe they could add a new kind of trimming. Diamond encrusted rune? Bleh.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lpinkus

[kaibani]

I don't understand. Weapons and Armor, as Crim basically said, are made from metals that are already refined before the items are smithed. Maybe you mean "enhanced," so that there would be, say, a regular rune plate, a trimmed rune plate (no bonuses), and an enhanced rune plate (has bonuses).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is that what you mean? If so....no :) I think there is plenty of armor as it is. In fact, I believe the reason for decorative armor is to give players more variety (which is what you asked for) without having to create new bonuses for those armors.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But, if there still aren't enough kinds of armor for ya, well, I dunno. Maybe they could add a new kind of trimming. Diamond encrusted rune? Bleh.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lpinkus

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, what i meant was like enhanced or whatever. But i think Runescape should let players buy a "variety" of armors which would actually benefit them, not just a couple gold lines on regular black which really doesn't do much at all but say "look im rich". And yes, there would be refining for mage/archer armor and weapons as well, i just havent thought a way for them as they aren't as "linear" as warriors. Ex. bronze, iron, steel, black, mith, addy, etc.

[lpinkus]

So, ok. You want nore variety in the armor and weaponry. That will happen in time, for sure. Just understand that JAGeX has to do it slowly, because A) those new items are suddenly worth TONS and B) the first to get those new items will use their stats to an almost unfair advantage. Too many new items at once and it's chaos.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lpinkus

[kaibani]

So, ok. You want nore variey in the armor and weaponry. That will happen in time, for sure. Just understand that JAGeX has to do it slowly, because A) those new items are suddenly worth TONS and B) the first to get those new items will use their stats to an almost unfair advantage. Too many new items at once and it's chaos.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lpinkus

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Actually, it wouldn't really be all that bad. Sure, runescape has a lot of items to come, but most of them are just for looks. It's time we runescapers spend billions on something useful, aka, weapon enhancing, or enhanced weapons that already exist.

[lpinkus]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Actually, it wouldn't really be all that bad. Sure, runescape has a lot of items to come, but most of them are just for looks. It's time we runescapers spend billions on something useful, aka, weapon enhancing, or enhanced weapons that already exist.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you're looking for a money drain, I understand why people think that's necessary, but new armor and weapons still have to come into the game slowly. I have no problem with it, tho.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I just read your sig, btw, and realized you're the one who posted that suicide idea. That's just awful, and I don't mean that disparagingly, I mean it's an awful concept, givng teens and younger a "suicide" option in a game. You may be well adjusted, but Runescape can be played all over the world, ands does influence people. I'm sorry, that idea would be awful. I'm surprised you put it in your sig. Anyways, that topic has been done already.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lpinkus

[kaibani]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Actually, it wouldn't really be all that bad. Sure, runescape has a lot of items to come, but most of them are just for looks. It's time we runescapers spend billions on something useful, aka, weapon enhancing, or enhanced weapons that already exist.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you're looking for a money drain, I understand why people think that's necessary, but new armor and weapons still have to come into the game slowly. I have no problem with it, tho.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I just read your sig, btw, and realized you're the one who posted that suicide idea. That's just awful, and I don't mean that disparagingly, I mean it's an awful concept, givng teens and younger a "suicide" option in a game. You may be well adjusted, but Runescape can be played all over the world, ands does influence people. I'm sorry, that idea would be awful. I'm surprised you put it in your sig. Anyways, that topic has been done already.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lpinkus

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ok, i understand your point of view for my idea. Now onto about my sig.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You say that my suicide idea is totally awful? Think about it. What good is the wilderness? Ya, we can compete with other players to show who's better, but it also encourages reckless gangbeating and killing as well. That isn't any much better than my suicide idea. Also, there are other games which have a suicide option as well, and kids such as 10 play it. (ex. Kalonline). Are you saying we're really that dumb to take it seriously if it really were to put into a game? I mean, there are murderers, killers all over the world. It's not like "player killing" won't give others a "feel" of how it's like to "kill" someone. I mean, there are tons of other games which contain much more gore and killing than runescape, and yet tons of parents still allow their children to play those kind of games. Are you telling me that none of that stuff should exist in games? Maybe my suicide option is a little over, but at least it has more reason than "killing for gold and fun", aka Pking. Let's hear your say on what i've said.

[Crim_nimora]

Lets not, that topics dead.

 

 

 

And yeah it would need to be introduced slowly.

[kaibani]

Lets not, that topics dead.

 

 

 

And yeah it would need to be introduced slowly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ok, let's drop it. Old news anyways.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Back on topic.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So you both think that it should be introduced slowly? But how can i introduce my ENTIRE idea, as it ties in all together as one, slowly? Maybe you guys can figure it out because i don't know the answer.

[indy500fan]

NO to refining weapons.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i havent played runescape in about 6 to 8 months (cant even remember), and i havent been out of the off topic board in a few months, but im glad this came up in one of my search results.

 

 

 

REFINING SUCKS. none of the other games i play got anywhere near a working model for refining, just try "thang online". its why i quit the game (just about 1 hour ago actually). runescape was good why i played it because it was different than other online games, and if i was still playing it id like it just the way it is.

[kaibani]

NO to refining weapons.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i havent played runescape in about 6 to 8 months (cant even remember), and i havent been out of the off topic board in a few months, but im glad this came up in one of my search results.

 

 

 

REFINING SUCKS. none of the other games i play got anywhere near a working model for refining, just try "thang online". its why i quit the game (just about 1 hour ago actually). runescape was good why i played it because it was different than other online games, and if i was still playing it id like it just the way it is.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you're just going say my "idea sucks" with out any supportive reasons, then i guess it's ok to say, "you suck".

[Crim_nimora]

Yes, going on that oppinion it would just fine.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Indy look at what your saying.

 

 

 

Its more or less, this.

 

 

 

"Runescape is better, since you dont refine, but I dont play it anymore, now I play the crappy games that let you refine. :D"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hey look now you actually have a reason to insult him for being rather stupid.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As opposed to his arguement that says

REFINING SUCKS

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How profound...