Ishbar Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 Freeworld requires certain updates to its world soon. I noticed the other day that Theres a 20 level gap between Rune Armor. ( Currently the strongest Item in free world. ) and Dragon. I believe that Jagex should create a middle ground, something creative with its own advantage to rune, but fair enough to allow even those who wear and use this new armor vulnerable to the RS community. I know Runescape was revolved around the almighty Rune at one point, though it drifts now. Rune Armor is mediocre to me now. I had the idea of "Daimond Armor" Armor thats White to the color, but also Black trimmed. It would work out nicely I believe. Rather than how Rune is hard to mine they should make the creation of Daimond Armor based upon Crafting. 1 Daimond + 8 Coal ( And possibly Iron. ) To created one Daimond Bar which then you use with a Moul to create a piece of it. Crafting level of 85 to start. Now like Armor being smithed you'd be given a list, and how many bars required. The same would apply for Daimond. My finaly thought on this is that Daimond Armor have to be "Refined" by going to an anvil and hammer and chisle with the piece of armor. ( Which when made comes out "Unrefined" ) To refine it. So a smithing level of 80 would be needed to start off with. This armor could be available for purchase at Oziach for a chain, and The Champion guild for a Med, and also Mace + Dagger. Armor out of most odds would sell for 500k for a plate, and 500 for legs, and so on. It wouldn't have that harsh of an effect upon the Runescape economy, no more of an effect that Christmas will have with people and Santa Hats how their price against all odds will double come Holiday season. Daimond Armor would have great defense and would be based for mages, rather than for Mele pkers. Daimond would have 1 up on Rune pretty much to put it blatently. It would require 50 Defense to wear, but also 50 mage to use. This armor would though be very weak versing Arrows and would not allow Anti Arrow prayer magic to be used. The weapons though would be based to Fight mages, so on the other hand if your a Mage wearing Daimond Armor you'll be powerful, but if someone in Full Rune with a Daimond Skimitar attacks you then it'd be a tough battle. If someone used arrows on you it'd be a tough fight too. Maybe i'm wrong though, maybe i'm completely dumbfounded and my idea is "Noobish" It probably is but at least I would presume it to be "decent". Tell me how you think it would work out. Not that it would happen though.. On another note, what about Drops, there used to be tons of them, especially for those holiday items. I really really miss them, alot!! They should make them a one day thing to get them like they were before. The thing is the reason was "People complained" On how they couldn't get it, well whos fault is it, Jagex? NO its the players faults! Yet Jagex still falls down to their knee's for this jerks. There are so few "Rare" items floating around in RS now, how often do you see Disk's of returning, and Easter eggs. Never that is. While you can't wear Disk's of reutrning nor Easter egg's they should introduce those tradeable one day items back on the holidays so that people may if they are a devoted player collect upon and boost runescapes economy a year down the road because without a doubt they soon will be worth alot whatever it is they have...just another thought.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsanity Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 Free worlds can't use Dragon armor or weapons, so the "gap" between them shouldn't really even concern you...unless you plan on buying members. Now, whilst some of the other ideas were grand, on the whole I think most of the population (including many, many free players) would agree that the f2p worlds should not get this huge of an update. If you give them something to make at level 85 crafting, then they'll be training for nothing until that level. Just, (and please don't flame back to this. There's been enough arguments on this subject already), buy members and use the updates it offers. I mean...what do you honestly expect to get update wise from a free world, anyways? |2,300+ Total|138 Combat|12 Lvl 99 Skills|99 Slayer| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubsa Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 No way - if you look dragon is only slightly better than rune, around the same proportion that mithril is better than steel. How one would incorporate another set of armour in between isn't feasible. And diamond armour? Really? Did you actually think this through properly? No drops - ever again. For one, Jagex said they would stop them, permanently, so discussing their continuation would be futile. Second of all, why gain wealth merely by logging in on a holiday? Have you stopped to look how buggered things are now because of these drops? So, in conclusion, these ideas are bad. Very bad. And for God's sake spell diamond correctly. This is how much you all raised for charity. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan_the_hun Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 Diamond bar? :evil: Diamond is a cristal, you can't just mould it! :lol: You can't melt a diamond! :evil: The only thing you can do you with diamonds is cut them. And we don't need more drops, so that in 1 year ppl are selling them at huge prices, like they do now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runescapeking Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 Made for mages? :shock: That will never work for a pure since you need 50 attack and 50 defense to wear the full thing in the first place this would just render it useless to some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banditx31 Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 u r thinkin 2 much.... :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elimist5000 Posted August 17, 2005 Share Posted August 17, 2005 Free worlds can't use Dragon armor or weapons, so the "gap" between them shouldn't really even concern you...unless you plan on buying members. Now, whilst some of the other ideas were grand, on the whole I think most of the population (including many, many free players) would agree that the f2p worlds should not get this huge of an update. If you give them something to make at level 85 crafting, then they'll be training for nothing until that level. Just, (and please don't flame back to this. There's been enough arguments on this subject already), buy members and use the updates it offers. I mean...what do you honestly expect to get update wise from a free world, anyways? Here we go again... More destructive-criticism from Outstanity yet again! Like I have told you many, many times: for some people, five dollars a month is not an option. But I do not realisticly think that this is likely to happen anyway. I have to agree on you that raising to level 85 crafting is not only boring, but the only things you can make with F2P crafting end at leather armour... On a different note, Ishbar, very well thought out post, but diamonds really cannot be moulded just like metal. There are more of a stone. But the idea seems pretty well thought out anyway. Good job! Thanks, Elimist5000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elk Posted August 17, 2005 Share Posted August 17, 2005 And for God's sake spell diamond correctly. Lawl.. :lol: Yes I am a girl. No, I won't be your girlfriend. :oops: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbok Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 The only thing you can do you with diamonds is cut them. Wrong, you can burn them like a piece of charcoal (pretty much what a diamond is), but you need extreme heat. you cannot melt or mould them, nor can you do that with any other gem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubsa Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 Aye because it is a complex carbon compound. This is how much you all raised for charity. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsanity Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 Free worlds can't use Dragon armor or weapons, so the "gap" between them shouldn't really even concern you...unless you plan on buying members. Now, whilst some of the other ideas were grand, on the whole I think most of the population (including many, many free players) would agree that the f2p worlds should not get this huge of an update. If you give them something to make at level 85 crafting, then they'll be training for nothing until that level. Just, (and please don't flame back to this. There's been enough arguments on this subject already), buy members and use the updates it offers. I mean...what do you honestly expect to get update wise from a free world, anyways? Here we go again... More destructive-criticism from Outstanity yet again! Like I have told you many, many times: for some people, five dollars a month is not an option. But I do not realisticly think that this is likely to happen anyway. I have to agree on you that raising to level 85 crafting is not only boring, but the only things you can make with F2P crafting end at leather armour... On a different note, Ishbar, very well thought out post, but diamonds really cannot be moulded just like metal. There are more of a stone. But the idea seems pretty well thought out anyway. Good job! Thanks, Elimist5000 The only thing I can do is laugh at this post and give you this hypothetical statement: You want to buy a pizza at a pizza place, which costs $10.00, but also want to buy a drink, which cost $2.50 more. However, you only have $10.00...I don't think the pizza place is going to give you a free drink just because you don't think it's fair that people who pay for drinks get drinks. I mean...how stupid and illogical does that sound? Exactly. Same case with Runescape. If you can't pay, quit whining, and move on. It's not like getting Runescape members is going to decide life or death on your part. Just go outside and play sports, ride a bike, or talk to friends. Entertain yourself in other ways if Runescape free worlds are seriously depressing you this much. :roll: |2,300+ Total|138 Combat|12 Lvl 99 Skills|99 Slayer| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaibani Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 Lol diamonds are supposed to belong on your jewelry silly. Nice try, can't fool me. 8) Sup noobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raichase Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 The only thing I can do is laugh at this post and give you this hypothetical statement: Excellent post - if you can't pay for members, then you can't have members. As you said, it won't kill anyone to not get any added benifits, and if it means you spend less time playing runescape, then thats good. Hell, I've spent the same amount of time playing runescape after getting members as I did before. It's just now, I have more choice of things to do. Raichase, quit Runescape. Time issues really, nothing against the game itself. Something had to go, and it happened to be the addictive game that costs money to enjoy :) Best of luck to all of my friends here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elimist5000 Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 Free worlds can't use Dragon armor or weapons, so the "gap" between them shouldn't really even concern you...unless you plan on buying members. Now, whilst some of the other ideas were grand, on the whole I think most of the population (including many, many free players) would agree that the f2p worlds should not get this huge of an update. If you give them something to make at level 85 crafting, then they'll be training for nothing until that level. Just, (and please don't flame back to this. There's been enough arguments on this subject already), buy members and use the updates it offers. I mean...what do you honestly expect to get update wise from a free world, anyways? Here we go again... More destructive-criticism from Outstanity yet again! Like I have told you many, many times: for some people, five dollars a month is not an option. But I do not realisticly think that this is likely to happen anyway. I have to agree on you that raising to level 85 crafting is not only boring, but the only things you can make with F2P crafting end at leather armour... On a different note, Ishbar, very well thought out post, but diamonds really cannot be moulded just like metal. There are more of a stone. But the idea seems pretty well thought out anyway. Good job! Thanks, Elimist5000 The only thing I can do is laugh at this post and give you this hypothetical statement: You want to buy a pizza at a pizza place, which costs $10.00, but also want to buy a drink, which cost $2.50 more. However, you only have $10.00...I don't think the pizza place is going to give you a free drink just because you don't think it's fair that people who pay for drinks get drinks. I mean...how stupid and illogical does that sound? Exactly. Same case with Runescape. If you can't pay, quit whining, and move on. It's not like getting Runescape members is going to decide life or death on your part. Just go outside and play sports, ride a bike, or talk to friends. Entertain yourself in other ways if Runescape free worlds are seriously depressing you this much. :roll: That post really made me laugh... I really don't care that I'm not a member. I have plenty of work to do on my F2P stats alone! No-one here is whining about not being able to pay $5. But when someone suggests an idea and suggests the slightest possibility that it would be available to free players, you start whining about people not being members and paying $5. You, sir, are the one that is whining. I reminded you that some people can't or are not allowed by parents, to play RuneScape members. And you have called me immature? You are bragging and showing off like a 4 year old! You're a member. Get over it! Thanks, Elimist5000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lpinkus Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 That post really made me laugh... I really don't care that I'm not a member. I have plenty of work to do on my F2P stats alone! No-one here is whining about not being able to pay $5. But when someone suggests an idea and suggests the slightest possibility that it would be available to free players, you start whining about people not being members and paying $5. You, sir, are the one that is whining. I reminded you that some people can't or are not allowed by parents, to play RuneScape members. And you have called me immature? You are bragging and showing off like a 4 year old! You're a member. Get over it! Thanks,Elimist5000 I've seen many of Out's posts, and I have to back him up and say he doesn't "whine." So, let's stop the "whining" and start the reasoning. Unless half the f2p population of RS decided to suddenly quit, citing a lack of updates as their motive, why should there be any f2p updates? JAGeX would like many more f2p players to become members. There are many of them who will subcribe for p2p someday, many who won't. JAGeX is more concerned, logically, with the ones who will. lpinkus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oze6000 Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 just... pay the seven bucks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elk Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 If you can't pay $7, then you should spend less time on RS and more time on finding out what the hell you'r going to do about the whole "No money no food" situation... :roll: Yes I am a girl. No, I won't be your girlfriend. :oops: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Arcade-X Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 Free worlds can't use Dragon armor or weapons, so the "gap" between them shouldn't really even concern you...unless you plan on buying members. Now, whilst some of the other ideas were grand, on the whole I think most of the population (including many, many free players) would agree that the f2p worlds should not get this huge of an update. If you give them something to make at level 85 crafting, then they'll be training for nothing until that level. Just, (and please don't flame back to this. There's been enough arguments on this subject already), buy members and use the updates it offers. I mean...what do you honestly expect to get update wise from a free world, anyways? Here we go again... More destructive-criticism from Outstanity yet again! Like I have told you many, many times: for some people, five dollars a month is not an option. But I do not realisticly think that this is likely to happen anyway. I have to agree on you that raising to level 85 crafting is not only boring, but the only things you can make with F2P crafting end at leather armour... On a different note, Ishbar, very well thought out post, but diamonds really cannot be moulded just like metal. There are more of a stone. But the idea seems pretty well thought out anyway. Good job! Thanks, Elimist5000 The only thing I can do is laugh at this post and give you this hypothetical statement: You want to buy a pizza at a pizza place, which costs $10.00, but also want to buy a drink, which cost $2.50 more. However, you only have $10.00...I don't think the pizza place is going to give you a free drink just because you don't think it's fair that people who pay for drinks get drinks. I mean...how stupid and illogical does that sound? Exactly. Same case with Runescape. If you can't pay, quit whining, and move on. It's not like getting Runescape members is going to decide life or death on your part. Just go outside and play sports, ride a bike, or talk to friends. Entertain yourself in other ways if Runescape free worlds are seriously depressing you this much. :roll: That post really made me laugh... I really don't care that I'm not a member. I have plenty of work to do on my F2P stats alone! No-one here is whining about not being able to pay $5. But when someone suggests an idea and suggests the slightest possibility that it would be available to free players, you start whining about people not being members and paying $5. You, sir, are the one that is whining. I reminded you that some people can't or are not allowed by parents, to play RuneScape members. And you have called me immature? You are bragging and showing off like a 4 year old! You're a member. Get over it! Thanks, Elimist5000 We do not "whine" about how f2p gets updates. Quite frankly, if we get updates, thats good enough for us. It doesn't really matter who else recives the benifits. Understand that JageX is a buisiness. Not a charity. As a buisiness, it must have it's attractions to attract customers. JageX offers gameplay for FREE. What more can they offer to people who actually pay? UPDATES. And I can't stress this harder... ONE MORE UPDATE TO F2P EQUALS ONE LESS ATTRACTION TO OFFER WHEN PEOPLE SWITCH TO P2P! Understand that. With your logical sence, it's easily possible. :roll: RsN: Arcade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 I am p2p I agree with everyone that f2p shouldn't get free updates other than minor ones. and That f2p should get updates the same as everyone else although they should not get something like diamond armor beacause: Its just unrealistic Its down right stupid But there should be a way for everyone to work together and I think my idea is the only answer if you think diffrent then thats your opinon. F2P should get 1 day a year at least to experiance membership, all of the benifets of members for one year. But to stop the huge flow of people on the members severs they use free severs and afterward they have to accept that they are not going to get more than minor updates. This would let the F2P know what they were missing so there would be a boost in new members. Those who can become members would have the chance to see it so would no fell so bad and P2P wouldn't be effected so I can't se how this is bad but if you think it is.... http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E_D_G_E_1039 Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 *whips out flame thrower* Jagex will rarely, if ever, give f2p an update. Any update they do recieve is, and will be minor. Jagex gives members updates, which is completely fair, seeing as they pay for the game, and keep it running. If Jagex started giving updates to the free players, then there wouldnt be any incentive to be a member, meaning less members, meaning less money for jagex, meaning less updates in general. Free players should be glad they even get to play, considering jagex pays for free players, who in return dont pay to play. Flame me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TROLL Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 i think i love you (in a straight way) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 My idea stands.... give them a taster http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saphire Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Diamond bar? :evil: Diamond is a cristal, you can't just mould it! :lol: You can't melt a diamond! :evil: The only thing you can do you with diamonds is cut them. And we don't need more drops, so that in 1 year ppl are selling them at huge prices, like they do now... Not only that but anyone with half a brain and paid attention in class knows that, even though diamond is the hardest known natually occuring substance, if you made a weapon or armor made from diamond that it would be so brittle it would shatter to pieces, its like ice if you had a big hunk of ice and drop it it would be harder to break than a long piece of ice only a few inches thick silly people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raichase Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 My idea stands.... give them a taster Uhh, no it doesn't - what the hell is F2P if not a taster, or a demo, or a basic level of game?!? Raichase, quit Runescape. Time issues really, nothing against the game itself. Something had to go, and it happened to be the addictive game that costs money to enjoy :) Best of luck to all of my friends here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 They should get a taste of members... its not like its going to kill us is it http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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