So correct me if I'm wrong, but the 2 points you made are:

 

 

 

1) TIF should not be another copy of Facebook

 

2) No one will use this

 

 

 

BOTH of which I have addressed and have said otherwise. I'll quote myself from literally like 3 posts back:

 

I'll say this again, SELECTIVELY borrow from Facebook. My logic goes like this, but let's establish some basic facts: 1) Facebook is very successful, 2) Facebook has status messages, 3) Almost everyone who has a Facebook uses his or her status.

 

 

 

If Facebook is very successful, and one of its features are statuses, how are you so sure that adding these statuses will not benefit TIF? Of course, Statuses are not the sole reason for success, but since they are so popular, they must be one of the most popular things to do on Facebook, correct? Why else would almost everyone maintain their status? If they are so popular, how can you say that they won't be popular on TIF? If they are popular on TIF, how can you say they aren't beneficial?

 

 

 

Isn't the whole point of a Forum to interact with people who share the same interest? A status is just another tool to do that, and a very effective one at that.

 

I'll restate what I've established on point 1, they are very popular elsewhere, so logically they would be popular on TIF. You can't say they won't be used. Almost everyone on Facebook uses their status. I'm not joking. If I pick any random page from my friend's list on Facebook, I can guarantee that he or she has a status. Statuses automatically clear after about a week too, so that will prove that those statuses are fairly recent as well.

 

 

 

In addition, your assumption that this will take several hours is probably false. I've stated, using logic, how easy this update should be. Now I don't know anything about programming this, and unless you know this topic throughly to give me an accurate time estimate, you're going to have to prove my logic wrong before you say that this update will take a long time.

 

 

 

What you are assuming is that because people use their status on facebook, they will use it here. What I'm trying to say is that many people put up a status on facebook for reasons that simply aren't present on a forum.

 

 

 

Is it possible that someone will use it? Yes. Enough to merit several hours of work? No.

 

 

 

The modifications that would have to be done for this to work. Having not programmed it is far more complicated then what it seems.

 

 

 

1) Add a new profile field. - easy

 

2) change the internal code to allow that profile field to be put on top of the avatar instead of beneath. - Could take several hours

 

3) Applying the censor to said new profile field. - Also could take several hours.

 

4) Bug testing to ensure that the screen isn't stretched by said profile field.

 

5) And of course, it's quite likely that users would like an easier way to update it then going to their profile, so further modifications might need to be done.

 

 

 

I'm not even sure exactly how this would look, you could make an image of your vision of it, that might help me to better understand it.

1) Need? No perhaps not. But did we "need" to separate and converge the Archive of Wisdom and its subforums all of those times?

 

 

 

2) If you can tell me how TIF won't greatly benefit, then you might have a valid point. You can't just state that without backing it up. I state that it WILL benefit. I've backed it up on most of my posts on the first page.

 

 

 

3) And I've said before, it really shouldn't take that long if my understanding is correct. How hard can it be? Add another profile option, except close to the name, and in colored font. I've made a logical argument that it IS easy, so you can't state that it's overly time consuming without an argument to prove that it WILL take a long time. Back up your statements, and sorry to sound like your (former?) English teacher.

 

I've said before that if it would be anything more than a custom profile field, it would require some deeper changes in phpBB- Something which really doesn't help this either. (It would probably require changing the template compiler so that it would accept custom profile fields in multiple places per post- Or then more than a custom profile field would be added, an actual default profile entry would be created instead).

 

My point was only that we did not need it and not that it only would be implemented if we needed it. Also, I know nothing of any of those changes to the Archive of Wisdom, I have never browsed any of them.

 

As for greatly benefiting. We have no lack of users or problems with inactivity. Let's say that TIF actually did. This still would not solve the problem. And I hate sports that involve kicking a ball around. :P

 

Again, I know nothing about coding of these forums. But I will tell you my basic reasoning and then someone who is more experienced can correct/support this. There is a RSN info spot, is there not? What's the difference between the RSN spot and all the other ones. It's hyperlinked to the highscores. That leads me to believe that you can add basic BBCode to info in the profile panel, such as links, underlining, color, and so forth. Of course, some of these are obviously not going to be a good idea (images, videos, and lists, for example) but others are plausible (color and font size, although not extreme font size and a consistent color). Therefore, you should be able to add color and a bit-bigger-than-normal font to a normal profile panel slot. Once more, I assert that I have no technical experience to support this. This is all my speculation.

 

The code used for the RSN profile field does not accept nor use BBcode for generation of the link. It only removes/escapes dangerous characters from the RSN (For security reasons) and puts it into a link when the page is printed.

 

 

Not easily upgradeable/reverseable? Why would you need to upgrade it though? I mean, when's the last time the profile was upgraded? Generally, it does not need upgrades. It is very reversible.

 

No, not so easily upgradeable/reversible. You would not need to upgrade it, rather the forum code around it on which it depends. The last time? June 2008. It took the admins a while to get around to reimplementing it for phpBB3 between their other duties after that. Yes, it needs upgrades. It is not necessarily easily reversible. Even if it was, removal of the code would require special care which takes time.

1) Since a lot of people on Facebook use it, that DOES mean that a lot of people on TIF will use it. They're both accessed by normal human beings, so you HAVE to assume that their personalities will not undergo a huge difference just because the site is different. And what different reasons are there? The types of things I see on statuses are complaints about life (ex. FML), telling what is going on (ex. I'm feeling good), telling what they are doing/about to do (ex. going to mall later, at Bob's house). If you notice, all of those are useable on TIF as well. Complaints about RS? Well, I don't think I need to give an example, but things like "Zaaps1 is hatin on bad pvp drops" or something like that. Many possibilities there. Or complaints not even of the system, like "Zaaps1 just got destroyed at Sara godwards, dammit". Telling what is going on is obviously the same. "Zaaps1 is feeling ok", for example, can apply to your RS mood. Telling what you are doing/about to do will probably be most related to group events, such as "Zaaps1 is going to Tipit event now" or "Zaaps1's clan is going GWD, world 99 edge if you want to join". Or maybe not group events, such as "Zaaps1 is attempted fire cape again". You see, the possibilities are literally endless.

 

 

 

So yes, people will use the status, even if the reason is just because it's there. Or are you saying that TIF users and Facebook users are really that much different?

 

 

 

2) What you are telling me is that there are hidden surprises. I agree, these are possible. But I think that you believe my suggestion is elaborate. It's not, all it involves is sticking some text near the top. Last time I did that on my own forum, that took a handful of minutes. I think you are also under the assumption that this suggestion is rigid and must go the way I planned. It's not. My plan is only one recommendation.

 

 

 

For example, I say to put it near the top. I also said to place it above the avatar. Well it can go below, right? Right about the Join date? Just make another field that starts with "Currently:".

 

 

 

And you are forgetting the easiest solution: simply allow the "rank" (ex. Ice Giant Melter) to be set by the player. I don't think we need to tell people you are a Moderator, since you already have the picture rank, and the Post Count makes the post rankings pretty useless, really.

 

 

 

Essentially, I think you are overthinking it. It doesn't HAVE to be as hard as you described. I am only suggestion there SHOULD be a status, not that it has to be shining in gold and neon lights.

 

 

 

3) And if you still think that it isn't useful, look at what thread is stickied. Suggest a new skin for the board? Obviously, it's optional. How many people would actually switch skins? How is that useful? All it provides is eyecandy, which honestly is something I can see is nice, but not useful since it does not help members interact. It just makes members stare at their screen more. Don't get me wrong, I like new skins, but if we broke it down statistically between the skins available, 20% of people would use any given new skin. If we copy the status, and the percent of people who use it are the same as on Facebook, I can say nearly 100% will use it. Then ask which one will take more time. Then ask yourself that if the admins support that idea, why should they not take this idea, which is potentially less time consuming and more useful, into consideration?

 

 

 

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To next poster:

 

 

 

1) answered above, pretty much.

 

 

 

If you don't know what happened to the AoW, there were many changes to the layout of the subforums. First they were seperate by type, then joined, then seperated again by type (but into lesser group numbers), rejoined again, and finally split again to how they are now. Not to mention in the beginning there was no subforum.

 

 

 

I'm not saying that TIF is dying and we need more members. Is that what I said? No. I said that it MAY bring new users, but I also said that it would be a great networking tool. Again, I'll ask you what the point of forums are. Forums are places for people who share the same interest to meet and interact with each other. Are you saying statuses won't help further that goal? Forums are not places for a bunch of people to read what each other say. It's a place for INTERACTION. Facebook has some great examples to offer, and I think ignoring them is a mistake.

 

 

 

I hate ball sports as well. That's why I swim. What's that have to do with anything though?

 

 

 

2) I have no idea what you said. It does not use BBCode, but it's there fore what purpose?

 

 

 

3) I wasn't talking about the code, I was talking about the status.

Not all forums work the same. Were the user be allowed to change their own rank it would take hours, maybe days of coding. It really isn't as simple as you make it out to be.

 

 

 

I realize that people still use this forum, but I do believe that the nature of it makes it very unlikely that status messages would actually be used to any great extent.

Not all forums work the same. Were the user be allowed to change their own rank it would take hours, maybe days of coding. It really isn't as simple as you make it out to be.

 

 

 

I realize that people still use this forum, but I do believe that the nature of it makes it very unlikely that status messages would actually be used to any great extent.

 

 

 

1) I understand what you're getting at. But again, that's only one example out of many possible solutions. And plus, if they're willing to work on skin implementation, why not statuses?

 

 

 

2) And how is the nature of a forum so different from that of a social networking site? If you really look, they're almost the same.

Not all forums work the same. Were the user be allowed to change their own rank it would take hours, maybe days of coding. It really isn't as simple as you make it out to be.

 

 

 

I realize that people still use this forum, but I do believe that the nature of it makes it very unlikely that status messages would actually be used to any great extent.

 

 

 

1) I understand what you're getting at. But again, that's only one example out of many possible solutions. And plus, if they're willing to work on skin implementation, why not statuses?

 

 

 

2) And how is the nature of a forum so different from that of a social networking site? If you really look, they're almost the same.

 

 

 

Skin implementation in phpbb3 takes literally 2 minutes.

 

 

 

The point of a social networking site is social networking. The whole point of it is to see what other people are doing, to find out things about them, and to make friends.

 

 

 

A forum, and this forum in particular, is for discussion. With the exception of blogscape, all the forums here are for discussing things. People are here to argue and debate, and to be informed. The majority of people simply don't care what others are doing at any given time.

1) None of these "hidden consequences" you mentioned before?

 

 

 

2) The forum is for discussion, but it's also for interaction. In a larger sense, Tipit is for interaction. I can bet that half of the people who joined didn't join to argue and debate about which training method is best. They came to interact with people who have a common interest.

1) None of these "hidden consequences" you mentioned before?

 

 

 

2) The forum is for discussion, but it's also for interaction. In a larger sense, Tipit is for interaction. I can bet that half of the people who joined didn't join to argue and debate about which training method is best. They came to interact with people who have a common interest.

 

I don't think I mentioned hidden consequences?

 

 

 

I agree that they come to interact with people who have common interest, but I don't think that realistically extends to a facebook-like community.

1) None of these "hidden consequences" you mentioned before?

 

 

 

2) The forum is for discussion, but it's also for interaction. In a larger sense, Tipit is for interaction. I can bet that half of the people who joined didn't join to argue and debate about which training method is best. They came to interact with people who have a common interest.

 

I don't think I mentioned hidden consequences?

 

 

 

I agree that they come to interact with people who have common interest, but I don't think that realistically extends to a facebook-like community.

 

 

 

1) Oh no, of course you didn't. Not directly at least. I'm just saying, are you sure it's also that simple? Are you overlooking something, such as some methods of statuses which are just as simple?

 

 

 

2) Exactly, you get it. That's why I stressed SELECTIVE borrowing earlier. I'll stress it again, SELECTIVE borrowing. Of course no one wants TIF to be another facebook, but you can't say that facebook doesn't have some really fun, useful, and popular features. My point is: how do you know TIF won't benefit from similar functions? But while you're thinking of that answer, I stress SELECTIVE borrowing again. Take what is good, leave what isn't or what won't work. For example, statuses work and are helpful. Pokes are not.

I'm just guessing, but I think it comes down to the fact that the format of a bulletin board like this is not one that lends itself well to status updates. You'd be drastically altering what Tip.It Forums are...and I don't think that's something that everyone wants.

 

 

 

The fact of the matter remains that there already exists a way that people can express themselves...in fact, two ways...their avatar and their signature...and I'm not even counting the fact that you can post your views in threads and even sub-forums specifically tailored for almost every topic. Both of those can be more easily "policed" for content. Since it's not mandatory that people use these sites, the mods have the right and some would say the responsibility to censor them for appropriate content. It would be a shame to see some people who are using these forums for the intended purposes 'scared' off because of people who used the technology for purposes other than what was intended. Unfortunately, society as a whole is tailored to protect against those people who would do wrong, not those who are doing right.

 

 

 

Even now, the mods probably have to sift through hundreds of submissions for graphics in avatars or signatures and adding something that would be as easy and quick to change as a status update like in facebook or myspace would increase it exponentially.

 

 

 

I think the mods have seen your views and considered them, but it doesn't look like it's going to happen. That's my impression and of course you're free to complain to them, but I don't think making the same (or even new) arguments is going to convince them, especially since altering the code to this site might not be simple and might have unforseeable consequences.

 

 

 

Just one gamers opinion...

I came on to write a long and detailed post, but it seems that SportsGuy wrote it for me. :thumbsup:

^ Amen.

 

I hate ball sports as well. That's why I swim. What's that have to do with anything though?

 

Was reading through and responding to this part of one of your previous posts: :)

 

On pen and paper, a status message really does not seem like much. Oh yeah I can have 1 sentence to share with everyone!!!!! Yeah, doesn't sound very exciting does it? I felt the same way when I started Facebook. But once you get to use it often and see what everyone else's statuses are, it's an extremely fun, useful, and great networking tool. It's one of those things that are a lot more fun when you actually DO them than when you simply PLAN them. Think of sports. "Sweet, I get to run around and try to kick a rubber ball into some net, I can see myself spending the rest of my life on this." But once you start playing the game, it really picks up. I believe it's the same concept.

Well soccer/football was just one example, you can have another if you'd like #-o

 

 

 

I'm just guessing, but I think it comes down to the fact that the format of a bulletin board like this is not one that lends itself well to status updates. You'd be drastically altering what Tip.It Forums are...and I don't think that's something that everyone wants.

 

 

 

The fact of the matter remains that there already exists a way that people can express themselves...in fact, two ways...their avatar and their signature...and I'm not even counting the fact that you can post your views in threads and even sub-forums specifically tailored for almost every topic. Both of those can be more easily "policed" for content. Since it's not mandatory that people use these sites, the mods have the right and some would say the responsibility to censor them for appropriate content. It would be a shame to see some people who are using these forums for the intended purposes 'scared' off because of people who used the technology for purposes other than what was intended. Unfortunately, society as a whole is tailored to protect against those people who would do wrong, not those who are doing right.

 

 

 

Even now, the mods probably have to sift through hundreds of submissions for graphics in avatars or signatures and adding something that would be as easy and quick to change as a status update like in facebook or myspace would increase it exponentially.

 

 

 

I think the mods have seen your views and considered them, but it doesn't look like it's going to happen. That's my impression and of course you're free to complain to them, but I don't think making the same (or even new) arguments is going to convince them, especially since altering the code to this site might not be simple and might have unforseeable consequences.

 

 

 

Just one gamers opinion...

 

 

 

I'm not sure where you're going with the avatar, since I haven't seen anyone express themselves using it. For me, the avatar is just something unique so you know where your post is when you're scrolling down the page. The signature I've already discussed.

 

 

 

 

1) It's just that, a SIGNATURE. By definition, it's something you put at the end of your message. So by the time they're finished reading a reply, then they get to know who you are? That doesn't make sense to me. Remember that a status is a mini-blog, and let's those who read it get to know what you are thinking at that moment and what kind of person you are like.

 

2) Honestly speaking, things aren't very noticeable in your signature.

 

------a) How many people do you see actually put a "status-like" message in their signature? Not many.

 

------B) How many people do you see put images and drop results in their signature? A lot. The expectancy of an image there or a list of stats (or list of suggestions supported, in some cases) takes dominance. If you looked in my sig and saw: "Currently going for 99 attack", you would think "Ok, moving on now...". Why? Because the way the signature has developed (evolutionarily, you might say) has made such statements out-of-place. What is in place? Image signatures, stat signatures, drop results, and links to topics. The simple fact that status messages do not belong in the signature answers your question. I am not saying that you CAN'T put these things in your signature, they it's so unexpected that no one will think anything of it if you do put it there, which defeats the purpose. They don't belong in the sig. I didn't decide that, Facebook didn't decide that, the TIF staff didn't decide that. The RuneScape (and the Gaming Community as a whole, you could say) decided that. So we much work around that. People have decided over time that suits are appropriate for formal events. T-shirts are out-of-place. That doesn't mean you CAN'T wear a T-shirt to a formal event, it just means that it's very out-of-place. You didn't decide that, the makers of the T-shirt didn't decide that, the party host didn't decide that. The Global Community decided that. Therefore you must work around that.

 

-----c) Furthermore, it's not noticeable in the sig. It's at the very end of your post, at which point most people will give it a quick glance and move on with their lives.

 

 

 

For me, that's MY perspective. That's my reasoning of why the signature is simply not the same.

 

 

 

On the extra workload, you're right that this would be extra work. Actually, I was not under the impression that the mods went through every avatar/signature of every user. I thought users simply reported when they found something wrong. I know that seems a little farfetched, since why wold any user do that? But I know for sure you can have a user-report system for statuses. If users report users for making spam topics and using offensive language, why wouldn't they also report users for offensive or abusive statuses? I'm sure Jagex doesn't monitor what each and every RS player is doing, so why would TIF mods? After all, the best way to determine is something is offending other users is to ask those users themselves, right?

 

 

 

I don't think this would "drastically alter" what TIF is. I mean, if you REALLY want to analyze, TIF has ALREADY adopted some aspects of social networking sites, and needless to say they have been helpful. The Friends v Foes option, for example? You get to distinguish who are your "friends" and ignore your "foes". Isn't that a shadow of Facebook or Myspace?

Personally I see no use whatsoever for status messages on Tip.It forums, but I like that you are passionate about your suggestion. And no, that's not sarcastic, I actually mean that. :

Personally I see no use whatsoever for status messages on Tip.It forums, but I like that you are passionate about your suggestion. And no, that's not sarcastic, I actually mean that. :

 

 

 

Thanks :

 

 

 

I suppose passion could be half of it, but I do actually think that statuses are a rational and helpful idea. That's why I'm still here. I know that they don't seem very helpful on paper, but from my experience, they are very useful.

To be honest no one cares what you're doing (not you personally), it works on Facebook as the people you have their are friends and not just random people off the internet. If people on here do care what you're doing and you care enough to tell them - start a blog, that's what blogscape is for.

 

 

 

It's something that would add very little, if anything to the forums, I personally would find it rather annoying, especially if it was the left with username etc. as it would more likely than not be too long to fit there without it looking horrid.

To be honest no one cares what you're doing (not you personally), it works on Facebook as the people you have their are friends and not just random people off the internet. If people on here do care what you're doing and you care enough to tell them - start a blog, that's what blogscape is for.

 

 

 

It's something that would add very little, if anything to the forums, I personally would find it rather annoying, especially if it was the left with username etc. as it would more likely than not be too long to fit there without it looking horrid.

 

 

 

1) It doesn't have to be by the username. I mentioned before that it was only one suggestion out of many ways to implement. For example, it can go above the Join Date.

 

 

 

2) Exactly. That's what I'm saying. Blogscape is for blogs, which is when you tell people about yourself. A status is simply a mini-blog. A status would help find people you have a similar interest with, and if you don't care much about it, it's easily ignorable.

 

 

 

3) A status' duty isn't just as a mini-blog. It can be a short-description of yourself, or anything really. There's no limit to it's uses, so saying that it isn't useful just because we don't need them as a mini-blog would be ignoring its other uses.

 

 

 

4) And I'll say it again, but blogs aren't always the solution. There are many to look through, which is a tedious task. Some people don't maintain blogs for that reason. They get buried under too quickly. Plus, what if you want to share what you are doing, but don't want to commit yourself to maintaining a blog? Also, what if you normally don't use a blog, but just want to post an achievement? What if you want to spread the word about one of your clan's events?

 

 

 

5) Well, you could say that your Facebook friends and the TIF community are the same. After all, if Tipit'ers were so icy to each other, why would there be a Help&Advice forum? Or Guides forum?

The side bar to the left is limited - having large amounts of text up there, for the status to mean anything important then it simply can not go there, having a few words which is all you'd be able to fit there would be pointless.

 

 

 

If you want to post an Achievement use the rate this board.

 

 

 

If people don't post in your blog then obviously they have nothing to say on it or are simply not interested, the blogscape board is the current place for what you want even if you can't see that. If people are interested in what you want then they will track your blog which there are various ways of doing it, on top of this you can simply edit the thread title to whatever you'd have your status as and it'd be the same, then if people want they can click on your blog and read in further detail.

 

 

 

In your profile there is already room for your interests etc. adding status for this purpose is pointless.

 

 

 

I never said TIFers were icy to each other, I respect a lot of users on here and enjoy reading what they post about certain subjects, but I don't want to know what they're all currently doing, I don't want to know if they've just got back from a day out in town or whatever, or even if it was restricted to what they're doing then I'd follow their blog if they have one.

 

 

 

I just think it'd be a totally pointless feature with 0 uses.

The side bar to the left is limited - having large amounts of text up there, for the status to mean anything important then it simply can not go there, having a few words which is all you'd be able to fit there would be pointless.

 

 

 

If you want to post an Achievement use the rate this board.

 

 

 

If people don't post in your blog then obviously they have nothing to say on it or are simply not interested, the blogscape board is the current place for what you want even if you can't see that. If people are interested in what you want then they will track your blog which there are various ways of doing it, on top of this you can simply edit the thread title to whatever you'd have your status as and it'd be the same, then if people want they can click on your blog and read in further detail.

 

 

 

In your profile there is already room for your interests etc. adding status for this purpose is pointless.

 

 

 

I never said TIFers were icy to each other, I respect a lot of users on here and enjoy reading what they post about certain subjects, but I don't want to know what they're all currently doing, I don't want to know if they've just got back from a day out in town or whatever, or even if it was restricted to what they're doing then I'd follow their blog if they have one.

 

 

 

I just think it'd be a totally pointless feature with 0 uses.

 

 

 

I see what you mean. But still, that doesn't place a limit to its uses.

 

 

 

About the blog, I was talking about people posting blogs, not people posting in them.

 

 

 

The thing about blogs, only a few of them can be seen at once. If you were looking into the TIF community, would you go any farther than the 3rd page? Well there are blogs past the 3rd page that have just as many claims as the ones on the first page. But those are largely hidden from the eyes of normal blogscape viewers. The status simply allows people to see what you are doing without having to dig up your blog.

 

 

 

I know you never said they were icy, but when you said that people don't care about each other, that's what you implied. I'm not talking about a rl status. So I'm not saying add a status so people can say "Zaaps1 just got back from Chicago" or something. It's for RS purposes, so "Zaaps1 just got back from Tipit event".

But how does knowing that effect anyone? As I said if you want people to know what you're doing - make a blog.

 

 

 

The reason blogs go to page 3 is that there are blogs that have been updated since and thus are at the top, if your blog goes down to page 3 then no one has anything to say on your recent post and maybe it's time to update.

 

 

 

If you really want to let other people knowing what you're doing, the screenshot sticky in general seems like a good place to do that, a lot of people there already post what they're currently doing with pictures, at times it's basically a blog with multiple users posting content, maybe you could contribute to that?

But how does knowing that effect anyone? As I said if you want people to know what you're doing - make a blog.

 

 

 

The reason blogs go to page 3 is that there are blogs that have been updated since and thus are at the top, if your blog goes down to page 3 then no one has anything to say on your recent post and maybe it's time to update.

 

 

 

If you really want to let other people knowing what you're doing, the screenshot sticky in general seems like a good place to do that, a lot of people there already post what they're currently doing with pictures, at times it's basically a blog with multiple users posting content, maybe you could contribute to that?

 

 

 

But here's how my thinking goes: everyone on Facebook uses it, so then everyone on Tif would use it, statistically speaking, of course. It seems to me that you are saying no one on Tif would use it, since it has no uses. But that doesn't make logical sense. Facebook users and Tif users are both human right? (Except those ad bots.) What then, is the big difference that makes statuses popular in one but not the other?

 

 

 

You can't assume that just because it's on the 3rd page that it's unpopular. But let's assume that's the case. So that means as long as I keep a blog updated it will get posters (that's not true, but again, let's assume it is). Still, that means that only a small minority of Tif'ers would be seen by the community. A status allows everyone to see it. So people don't have to dig through Blogscape. It's like an advertisement, if you will.

 

 

 

True, there are a lot of places you can go to get a similar job done. Then again not all of them are the same as a status. Another problem could be that all these potential places are scattered all over Tif. Think about what has been brought up in this thread alone, the signature, a sticky, general discussion, blogscape, and rate this. That's a lot of different places, and just by adding a status, you can get all of those in 1.

But how does knowing that effect anyone? As I said if you want people to know what you're doing - make a blog.

 

 

 

The reason blogs go to page 3 is that there are blogs that have been updated since and thus are at the top, if your blog goes down to page 3 then no one has anything to say on your recent post and maybe it's time to update.

 

 

 

If you really want to let other people knowing what you're doing, the screenshot sticky in general seems like a good place to do that, a lot of people there already post what they're currently doing with pictures, at times it's basically a blog with multiple users posting content, maybe you could contribute to that?

 

 

 

But here's how my thinking goes: everyone on Facebook uses it, so then everyone on Tif would use it, statistically speaking, of course. It seems to me that you are saying no one on Tif would use it, since it has no uses. But that doesn't make logical sense. Facebook users and Tif users are both human right? (Except those ad bots.) What then, is the big difference that makes statuses popular in one but not the other?

 

 

 

You can't assume that just because it's on the 3rd page that it's unpopular. But let's assume that's the case. So that means as long as I keep a blog updated it will get posters (that's not true, but again, let's assume it is). Still, that means that only a small minority of Tif'ers would be seen by the community. A status allows everyone to see it. So people don't have to dig through Blogscape. It's like an advertisement, if you will.

 

 

 

True, there are a lot of places you can go to get a similar job done. Then again not all of them are the same as a status. Another problem could be that all these potential places are scattered all over Tif. Think about what has been brought up in this thread alone, the signature, a sticky, general discussion, blogscape, and rate this. That's a lot of different places, and just by adding a status, you can get all of those in 1.

 

 

 

The comparison you are making is akin to this:

 

 

 

If someone uses something in one situation they will use it again. Example: If a man uses a hammer to insert a nail then logically he will use a hammer to insert a screw as well.

 

 

 

But it doesn't work like that; the nature of the nail and screw are different, just as a forum and a social networking site are different.

 

But here's how my thinking goes: everyone on Facebook uses it, so then everyone on Tif would use it, statistically speaking, of course. It seems to me that you are saying no one on Tif would use it, since it has no uses. But that doesn't make logical sense. Facebook users and Tif users are both human right? (Except those ad bots.) What then, is the big difference that makes statuses popular in one but not the other?

 

 

 

 

That's merely an assumption though. Not everyone on facebook uses it (I myself am an example), and why would you assume everyone on Tip.it would use it? I certainly wouldn't see the need to go to User Control Panel every day just to edit what I am currently 'doing'.

 

 

 

But here's how my thinking goes: everyone on Facebook uses it, so then everyone on Tif would use it, statistically speaking, of course.

 

 

 

Well how many people in this thread want it and compare that to the people that don't. Statistically speaking it wouldn't get much use ;)

1) @y_guy

 

 

 

I hammer in screws.

 

 

 

No, actually I don't, jk. But I'm not talking about the nail or the screw, I'm talking about the hammer. Facebook and Tif are different, I agree, but the people who use them are the same in nature. The personality and genetic code of Tif users and Facebook users can't possibly be big enough to make statuses popular in one and abandoned in the other.

 

 

 

Plus, in either case, powertools are better :lol:

 

 

 

2) @Rainy True, not everyone uses it. But an overwealming majority uses it. You can't guarantee everyone will use any given feature. That's impossible, there will be people who ignore it. But the status is such a fun, useful, helpful, and addicting feature that almost everyone does.

 

 

 

Plus I can make your same argument to blogs.

 

 

 

3) @Dark

 

 

 

How many people posted on this thread? How many people use Tif? Your sample size is way too small and allows for way too much percentage error. A good sample size would be everyone on 2-5 Off-topic or General Discussion forum topics. Just asking around 10 people to vote on a decision for thousands doesn't make any sense, especcially since these 10 people are not chosen representatives.