nephilim Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Took off my stolen piece of trash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 This is gonna sounds harsh but you need alot of pratice everything is very sqaure in the background. the pure white on the white hair at the very edge makes it look like a badlky stuck down peice of paper, the guys face seems to be squished into an odd shape and your shading isn't good, your shading seems to be 2 or 3 tones you need to blend it If you save my sig onto your system and zoom in on the chracter u can see how it starts small and gets bigger with each tone and the tones have minor differences for example the robes have 5 or 6 different shades on them But all in all I would have to say it is good for your first try Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quer_Skulll Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/10265587/ looks familiar? the point was not to copy his/her stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nephilim Posted August 25, 2005 Author Share Posted August 25, 2005 Tutorials are put up for a reason, for people to take advantage of them to possibly customise it to their own liking whilst using that persons tips. Im sorry i posted my sig up, its a first and im aware of all this nonsense "my sig is better than yours" "ive been doing sigs longer therefore im better" attitude, and ive seen countless peoples good hard work being commented on poorly and broken down into nothing. I drew it out by hand whilst taking the ideas/ poses from that tutorial then scanned it in and pixel traced round it. So the only thing i stole was the idea, then i customised it. So less of the detective work eh sherlock? What about inspiration itself and surroundings, when you see something in your surroundings and you use it in your work, is that considered stealing? Well the fact is, i took it, drew it, and used it to my own advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 I have to agrre with skull ehre thoose poepl r near identiocal whihc is near as dam it no stealing them Your using a tutorial to u r best advantage phrase sounds like wat a criminal says when trying to justify stealing from a shop Also my current sig is my very first pixel sig whihc I relied heavily on Quer_skulls tutorial to make but I haven't ripped that off I mean does mine look antyhing like this one tht the tutoiral used: no and why doesn't it? because unlike you i didn't directly steal from it, Rather than reading its steps then copying it exactly I read its steps then applied tht new bit of knowledge to my own work to develop thru my own stick figure etc. Which is why mine is unique and does have some faults such as the man is not correctly proportioned Now I must go for I am in irrtable modd and do not wish to say sumat th would get me into troulbe or I would later regret Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nephilim Posted August 25, 2005 Author Share Posted August 25, 2005 Im happy with my outcome. And i dont regret my methods. If that user cared about her work so much, then she wouldnt have put it up for use world wide. I didnt directly do a copy paste job from the site. By sketching it onto paper first and slightly customising it, i treated it like my own work. You've been making sigs for quite some time im sure, for a first sig, im more than happy with the outcome... And i'd thank that person who wrote up the tutorial. Perhaps in the future ill be more creative as to make my own charactors, but as a first time pixel sig, i dont regret it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 I'm sorry but did u not read my post tht is my first sig. I did it from quer_skulls tutorial whihc has the sig i posted in it and asked do u see similarities And i;m sure if tht user did see that u had directly lifted near as damn it the characters for her tutorial to put in ur own work whihc u say as u customized it is ur own her/she would have somethong to say about it And if u don;t belive tht is my first sig you can see still on the front page i think a post by me saying MY FIRST PIXEL SIG not to mention the fact tht numerous of the famous faces here can confirm i only recently poped here and have had no previous work Now i really must clam down, I dunno y my blood is boiling so much today Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nephilim Posted August 25, 2005 Author Share Posted August 25, 2005 Your blood is boiling so much because you take this far too seriously. I had fun making my first sig. To have people come up and just throw it off like some piece of trash, i dont appreciate it. Your a better sig maker clearly, if thats what you want to hear. But if you didnt hear me... in time ill learn more and ill create my own work in full originallity. So please, for once drop all of this and see me as being a work in progress banner aye? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowgravity Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 I'd like to know which program you did the non-manual dithering in please. Lowgravity, I want to be just like you. But...I never will be as 1337 as you. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 But u can't really call urs when it is basically a direct steal from tht tutorial even using their colour swatches for all but the clothes and hair and its not really gd practice to rip off a tutorial as your first thing the only way u get nay skill from it is to do it all urself like i did for my signature and experiment on it I mean i got ym cc and did much like shirkning the sun etc but still it has short legs and muscles tht it shouldn;t really have from my experimenting Generally ur first sig is experiment 2nd is proper work as ur develop not 1st rip of tut 2nd expriment Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nephilim Posted August 25, 2005 Author Share Posted August 25, 2005 Man, just drop it. You could be fighting here with me all day. I dont regret it, and your trying to achieve something here, but your not succeeding so if you wish to continue perhaps we could do so on the game? Besides your not really understanding my points here. I only stole the idea from the charactors, doesnt necesserly mean all of the sig is stolen. So get your facts right. And as i said drop it, get off your high horse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quer_Skulll Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Tutorials are put up for a reason, for people to take advantage of them to possibly customise it to their own liking whilst using that persons tips. Im sorry i posted my sig up, its a first and im aware of all this nonsense "my sig is better than yours" "ive been doing sigs longer therefore im better" attitude, and ive seen countless peoples good hard work being commented on poorly and broken down into nothing. I drew it out by hand whilst taking the ideas/ poses from that tutorial then scanned it in and pixel traced round it. So the only thing i stole was the idea, then i customised it. So less of the detective work eh sherlock? What about inspiration itself and surroundings, when you see something in your surroundings and you use it in your work, is that considered stealing? Well the fact is, i took it, drew it, and used it to my own advantage. excuse me here Einstein but half of your post doesnt even come close to regarding my post? have you ever seen me saying "ive been doing sigs longer therefore im better" no i have not, if i feel that i am better then some-one at something doesn't matter what i will keep it in my mind and there it shall stay nor do i make it aware to others by giving hints to it and i do not posses that attitude Mckay? Now to tell you the truth i dont like your attitude one bit, now im sure your a nice man or lady but your attitude towards me, i dont tolerate. Now i've been making tutorials of my own and my intentions were to inform people of how things can be done plus giving them tips, my intentions didn't lie into looking at my tutorial then copying it which is practicly what you are doing. now im wel aware that you didnt copy and paste it, tho that doesnt make the extreme similiaritys between the characters any different. now don't get me wrong, you didnt rip the picture but you sure as hell ripped the style not the idea the style. the style is something important, it divides artists from one another take the artists on these boards for example moste make very different styles (even tho moste grunge+stolen image sigs are very alike.. pitty..) or if thats not good enough.. compare a Picasso with a Miro or a Rembrandt with a Dahli. (Dahli is genious btw kthxbye) now my point was to provo. you and it worked now i hope you learned something today. the background was ok btw and paw_claw isnt on a high horse he's just trying to inform you as i am. to make sure there aren't any mistakes upon the sig paw_claw posted. that was made by me and i would sure as hell hate it if somebody copyd the style very directly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nephilim Posted August 25, 2005 Author Share Posted August 25, 2005 Ok, tell me. What about upcomming artists who draw multiple drawings per day to get better with certain media. This is under the same circumstances, i took it, drew it, rendered it to get used to pixel sigging. Thousands of studying artists, including my girlfriend who is at university studying it, draws still life and also draws other artists work for the sake of training her artistic ability. So once again, drop it for god sake, im sorry i ever posted the sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Ya I draw lots to develop my skill but when i did my first pixel from quer_skull tutorial mine didn;t not in anyway resmeble his accept the fact it was the non-outlined type of pixel sig. Also I do not know anyone who direct copies the pictures for a tuorial but change colours slightly then says tht is theres. Its like copying the mona lisa onto a photo of mcdonadls and saying tht my work I didn't steral ne of it. But you seem to have such a low honest lvl and iq it is not worth the fight so i am getting really wound up now and am gonna go offline as u can see i am getting to annoyence (not totaslly of this) to stage of insults Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nephilim Posted August 25, 2005 Author Share Posted August 25, 2005 I have a low iq, look at captain slur your words. Half of what you said doesnt actually make any sense, you just mash the keyboard and hope for the best. As for it not being worth the fight, why do you continue to be a pain in the arse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nephilim Posted August 25, 2005 Author Share Posted August 25, 2005 Took the image off, no need to fight boys, any continuous fighting beyond this post will pretty much mean your sad and take this far too seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Neph, I agree that sometimes looking at stuff and drawing it is good practice. However, its not something you want to pass off as your own. I noticed you didn't post a link to any "tutorial" you used. Ususaly it's kind or an act of courtasy to post the link to it right off the bat, showing you did use another artist's help to create your image. What I saw realy wasn't much of a pixel sig par-say. If I could see it again i'd say more (only saw a bit, refreshed, and it was gone). But since you took it off, I'll just stop here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger2 Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 okay ill just give friendly advice on ur sig even tho it was copied kinda.. first of all... give more shape to theyre faces rite now theyr plain ovals and not very good lookin , also the eyebrows and eyes and mouths are too thick? the girls hand needs more workin but hands for me are usually hard, also, the noses uh.. oh another thing, the bridge looks way wrong maybe slant it a bit to the right or something, it looks like a wall or door rite now :? also the background is very blocky and doesnt look manually shaded? the sky has one color only looks too solid add more blues?its still better than manys first attempts but ehh, oh btw nice necks EDIT: sorry nvm what i said i just noticed u removed the image while i was tpying the message Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nephilim Posted August 25, 2005 Author Share Posted August 25, 2005 Well thanks for keeping a calm, your the first person who is talking to me on a human to human level. I understand that i should have perhaps linked it. The rest is original, im just lowly experience with charactor work right now, i thought it would be a good idea to sketch it and use it to help develope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nephilim Posted August 25, 2005 Author Share Posted August 25, 2005 Thanks for the advice, it still is work in progress i guess. Art is never fully complete until your totally satisfied with your work. Any tips on facial rendering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quer_Skulll Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Well thanks for keeping a calm, your the first person who is talking to me on a human to human level. I understand that i should have perhaps linked it. The rest is original, im just lowly experience with charactor work right now, i thought it would be a good idea to sketch it and use it to help develope. now hold your horses your quite shorting me out here, not once have i offended you, not once! i think you have been mistaken in your perception on my post.. regretfully this is the internet so you could not hear my tone and i can assure you no harm was meant true my posts. im sorry if you took it that way, truly am. i merely was informing you, my way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowgravity Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Oh yeah you CAN practice on others people stuff just don't post it anywhere or claim it as your own unless you have the owners permission. Although it would be better to make it yourself. Lowgravity, I want to be just like you. But...I never will be as 1337 as you. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altkill Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Before I say anything, may I point out you have removed the picture, shows your claims of doing nothing wrong to be, somewhat thwarted, I don't regret my methods I don't regret it (like the long words, I'm frightened you'll call me Captain Slur). Let me first comment on your title, and I quote, "MY First Pixel Sig". Full caps on the "MY". So your pretty proud of what you've done, but, from what I've gathered, you simply copied what someone else has done. Tutorials are put up for a reason, for people to take advantage of them to possibly customise it to their own liking... That's funny, I though tutorials taught you how to do something. Alt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nephilim Posted August 25, 2005 Author Share Posted August 25, 2005 Well sorry if i misunderstood where you were coming from. I agree, the internet is hard when it comes to any form of cristisism, it just appears offensive to me. These tutorials you host, where can i find them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nephilim Posted August 25, 2005 Author Share Posted August 25, 2005 Yes im proud of it, as a person would be proud of his first car, or first anything which produces pleasure. I can take critisism to a certain extent, but when people dont allow way for up-coming pixel artists, then i feel like just packing my stuff up and not trying again... Hense the reason i took it off, people have quite clearly stated its a piece of [cabbage], so ive took it off. Ill quietly develope my skills and just not post again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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