Socc Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 At my work thieves stole over $500 and a laptop was stolen, they are attempting to locate it, but we've hit a problem. I have the ip's of the other laptops there, and I'm working on getting the ip of the router thats used at work. Is it possible to find the Local IP of the stolen computer if I'm able to get the routers Ip would It be possible to check all of the Ip's that have connected to it, and find the ip of the stolen computer? The police said if we can provide them with that they have a chance at finding it if the users (who are thought to be between 15-20, and not geniuses). If anyone can help thats awesome, they're desperate to find it. Socc | 99 Magic | 95/99 Range | 99 Defence | 99 Hitpoints | 96/99 Summoning |Join SODB for some monster Slayin! | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloter Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Not really. They will get a new IP address when the connect to another LAN or WAN. The mac address could possibly do something for you as those are hard coded into the hardware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socc Posted July 11, 2009 Author Share Posted July 11, 2009 Can that be traced over the internet though? Socc | 99 Magic | 95/99 Range | 99 Defence | 99 Hitpoints | 96/99 Summoning |Join SODB for some monster Slayin! | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloter Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Can that be traced over the internet though? I'm sure there is a way as it is the computer a lot can be done. That i know of? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denismage Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 I don't completely understand what you are trying to say. If you are trying to locate a computer based on an internal address, it's not possible. Unless the laptop is still at your workplace, there is no way you will get it back. Not really. They will get a new IP address when the connect to another LAN or WAN. The mac address could possibly do something for you as those are hard coded into the hardware. sudo macchanger --mac 6B:1C:32:33:41:65 wlan0 Ta-da. Same applies for windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloter Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 I don't completely understand what you are trying to say. If you are trying to locate a computer based on an internal address, it's not possible. Unless the laptop is still at your workplace, there is no way you will get it back. Not really. They will get a new IP address when the connect to another LAN or WAN. The mac address could possibly do something for you as those are hard coded into the hardware. sudo macchanger --mac 6B:1C:32:33:41:65 wlan0 Ta-da. Same applies for windows. That is just going to fake one. That isn't going to change the actual hard coded address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denismage Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 I don't completely understand what you are trying to say. If you are trying to locate a computer based on an internal address, it's not possible. Unless the laptop is still at your workplace, there is no way you will get it back. Not really. They will get a new IP address when the connect to another LAN or WAN. The mac address could possibly do something for you as those are hard coded into the hardware. sudo macchanger --mac 6B:1C:32:33:41:65 wlan0 Ta-da. Same applies for windows. That is just going to fake one. That isn't going to change the actual hard coded address. You can change it nevertheless. For windows it's even easier, you can make the change persistent as long as the program does what it needs to do on startup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloter Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 I don't completely understand what you are trying to say. If you are trying to locate a computer based on an internal address, it's not possible. Unless the laptop is still at your workplace, there is no way you will get it back. Not really. They will get a new IP address when the connect to another LAN or WAN. The mac address could possibly do something for you as those are hard coded into the hardware. sudo macchanger --mac 6B:1C:32:33:41:65 wlan0 Ta-da. Same applies for windows. That is just going to fake one. That isn't going to change the actual hard coded address. You can change it nevertheless. For windows it's even easier, you can make the change persistent as long as the program does what it needs to do on startup. You can fake in in the registry with out a program in windows.... The point is you are not going to permanently change it on the hardware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denismage Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 I don't completely understand what you are trying to say. If you are trying to locate a computer based on an internal address, it's not possible. Unless the laptop is still at your workplace, there is no way you will get it back. Not really. They will get a new IP address when the connect to another LAN or WAN. The mac address could possibly do something for you as those are hard coded into the hardware. sudo macchanger --mac 6B:1C:32:33:41:65 wlan0 Ta-da. Same applies for windows. That is just going to fake one. That isn't going to change the actual hard coded address. You can change it nevertheless. For windows it's even easier, you can make the change persistent as long as the program does what it needs to do on startup. You can fake in in the registry with out a program in windows.... The point is you are not going to permanently change it on the hardware. I know that, but why bother if you can just click. What I'm trying to say is that you can spoof mac if you really want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloter Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 I don't completely understand what you are trying to say. If you are trying to locate a computer based on an internal address, it's not possible. Unless the laptop is still at your workplace, there is no way you will get it back. Not really. They will get a new IP address when the connect to another LAN or WAN. The mac address could possibly do something for you as those are hard coded into the hardware. sudo macchanger --mac 6B:1C:32:33:41:65 wlan0 Ta-da. Same applies for windows. That is just going to fake one. That isn't going to change the actual hard coded address. You can change it nevertheless. For windows it's even easier, you can make the change persistent as long as the program does what it needs to do on startup. You can fake in in the registry with out a program in windows.... The point is you are not going to permanently change it on the hardware. I know that, but why bother if you can just click. What I'm trying to say is that you can spoof mac if you really want to. Sigh. You can spoof it but you can not change it. As i have said 3 or 4 times now. I was possibly stating you could use as a means of identify it it. However, you would be correct, as stated in my second post, ("I'm sure there is a way as it is the computer a lot can be done. That i know of? No.") that you can not trace it over the internet. It would be extremely challenge if possible. You posted thinking well I'll prove sloter wrong. You proceed to post that you could change it. You cannot and now you are saying that you can spoof it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denismage Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 I don't completely understand what you are trying to say. If you are trying to locate a computer based on an internal address, it's not possible. Unless the laptop is still at your workplace, there is no way you will get it back. Not really. They will get a new IP address when the connect to another LAN or WAN. The mac address could possibly do something for you as those are hard coded into the hardware. sudo macchanger --mac 6B:1C:32:33:41:65 wlan0 Ta-da. Same applies for windows. That is just going to fake one. That isn't going to change the actual hard coded address. You can change it nevertheless. For windows it's even easier, you can make the change persistent as long as the program does what it needs to do on startup. You can fake in in the registry with out a program in windows.... The point is you are not going to permanently change it on the hardware. I know that, but why bother if you can just click. What I'm trying to say is that you can spoof mac if you really want to. Sigh. You can spoof it but you can not change it. As i have said 3 or 4 times now. I was possibly stating you could use as a means of identify it it. However, you would be correct, as stated in my second post, ("I'm sure there is a way as it is the computer a lot can be done. That i know of? No.") that you can not trace it over the internet. It would be extremely challenge if possible. You posted thinking well I'll prove sloter wrong. You proceed to post that you could change it. You cannot and now you are saying that you can spoof it. Did I say the change will be permanent ? No. The end result is what matters, and if you can change the mac address, you can change the mac address. I don't care about proving you right or wrong, I don't even know who you are. You said mac address is hard coded into hardware, which is true, except you said it as if there is no way to change it, even temporarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbrideau Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 sloter is right, you can only spoof the adress. Spoofing and changing it is not the samething in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denismage Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 sloter is right, you can only spoof the adress. Spoofing and changing it is not the samething in my mind. Idk, same to me. I've just had the most pointless argument over nothing. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socc Posted July 12, 2009 Author Share Posted July 12, 2009 Is there anyway to track/trace that at all though? and no before someone asks the computer didn't have lojack or something like that Socc | 99 Magic | 95/99 Range | 99 Defence | 99 Hitpoints | 96/99 Summoning |Join SODB for some monster Slayin! | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aspokaspofkjsopfkapo Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 Is there anyway to track/trace that at all though? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stragomagus Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 The posts on this site explain how it would be possible to do that, but you probably don't have anything on the laptop of the type. http://www.ethicalhacker.net/component/ ... ic,1501.0/ Quote - Revenge is such a nasty thing that only breeds more vengeful souls, but in some situations revenge does not even need to be sought out, but only bided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denismage Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 You can set up a program that will track and control the computers you have left. It will really help if they decide to steal again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloter Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 People have suggested using programs to track the laptop back. What happens if they take the HDD out and smash it or wipe it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stragomagus Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 People have suggested using programs to track the laptop back. What happens if they take the HDD out and smash it or wipe it? If the hdd is perfectly good they would be completely [developmentally delayed]ed for smashing it(money), and you have to wipe a disk several times before it is truly cleaned as when you reformat some stuff will remain, you can't access it though without some programs, that will be waiting to be written on over as you use the hdd. Quote - Revenge is such a nasty thing that only breeds more vengeful souls, but in some situations revenge does not even need to be sought out, but only bided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denismage Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 People have suggested using programs to track the laptop back. What happens if they take the HDD out and smash it or wipe it? If the hdd is perfectly good they would be completely [developmentally delayed] for smashing it(money), and you have to wipe a disk several times before it is truly cleaned as when you reformat some stuff will remain, you can't access it though without some programs, that will be waiting to be written on over as you use the hdd. Program won't launch after the disk has been formatted, there are supposed to be some that are rumoured to survive reformat but I've never seen one in action, nor do I know how it's supposed to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloter Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 People have suggested using programs to track the laptop back. What happens if they take the HDD out and smash it or wipe it? If the hdd is perfectly good they would be completely [developmentally delayed] for smashing it(money), and you have to wipe a disk several times before it is truly cleaned as when you reformat some stuff will remain, you can't access it though without some programs, that will be waiting to be written on over as you use the hdd. If you stole a laptop might you want a new hard drive in it or wipe it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbrideau Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 People have suggested using programs to track the laptop back. What happens if they take the HDD out and smash it or wipe it? If the hdd is perfectly good they would be completely [developmentally delayed] for smashing it(money), and you have to wipe a disk several times before it is truly cleaned as when you reformat some stuff will remain, you can't access it though without some programs, that will be waiting to be written on over as you use the hdd. Program won't launch after the disk has been formatted, there are supposed to be some that are rumoured to survive reformat but I've never seen one in action, nor do I know how it's supposed to work. No program will launch after a format, because it's not maked as there. What a normal format does is just check if the clusters work. The reason it "erases" everything is that it unmarks where things are on the hard drive. That's why there are some programs that can recover things after the hard drive has been formated. The only real way to format and having nothing remaining is a format utility that writes over everything. Anyway that's what I remember about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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