eXyle Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 As I reached level 100 now, who is the better Slayer master to use? Sumona or Duradel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danqazmlp Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 I'd say stick with sumona untill around 70-75 slayer, as most of the tasks duradel assigns below those levels you can get from sumona anyway. Want to be my friend? Look under my name to the left<<< and click the 'Add as friend' button!Big thanks to Stevepole for the signature!^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Duradel is the best master and you should go to him immediately. Sumona gives good tasks, to be sure, but Duradel is the best master. His tasks average 26-30k per hour. If you use your 4 blocks and cancel efficiently, you can get 35-40k per hour. (These of averages, of course.) I'm pretty sure Sumona comes no where close. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay_More12 Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Duradel is the best master and you should go to him immediately. Sumona gives good tasks, to be sure, but Duradel is the best master. His tasks average 26-30k per hour. If you use your 4 blocks and cancel efficiently, you can get 35-40k per hour. (These of averages, of course.) I'm pretty sure Sumona comes no where close. Duradel is good for Tasks that give good drops, whereas Sumona is good for fast Slayer XP and Combat Divine Forces | #DF on irc.seersirc.net | Most Motivated | http://rs-df.com/forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Duradel is the best master and you should go to him immediately. Sumona gives good tasks, to be sure, but Duradel is the best master. His tasks average 26-30k per hour. If you use your 4 blocks and cancel efficiently, you can get 35-40k per hour. (These of averages, of course.) I'm pretty sure Sumona comes no where close. Duradel is good for Tasks that give good drops, whereas Sumona is good for fast Slayer XP and Combat I don't agree. Duradel gives the best tasks for xp. If you look at the list, you'll find that the slowest tasks that Duradel gives are also on Sumona's list (bar miths). Therefore, Duradel is better because he assigns more tasks that give better xp, and he gives tasks in large increments, meaning more xp per task. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deltaer Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Yes, Duradel does give tasks with the best xp/task, but it doesn't necessarily mean that he's the best one to go to. I'm 120 combat, and I'm going back to Sumona... I think I did about 10 or so tasks with Duradel and had enough of it.. e.g. black demons - take forever. Terror dogs - no way in hell I'm going back to Tarn's Lair. And others. So really, just try both of them.. I wouldn't recommend you go to Duradel, but that's just me.. some of his tasks are awesome in that they give a lot of xp, but some just plain suck, and take forever.. which means it's really an inefficient and ineffective way to get xp (more xp/task isn't necessarily better.. especially if that task will take forever, in which you could have finished two or three tasks at another slayer master and gotten more xp). [2010] Proud Member of Downfall[2004-2005] Former Leader of The Unbreakables, Former Member of Corruption, Former Member of 'The' Clan(...and Anarchy for a few weeks... shhh...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Yes, Duradel does give tasks with the best xp/task, but it doesn't necessarily mean that he's the best one to go to. I'm 120 combat, and I'm going back to Sumona... I think I did about 10 or so tasks with Duradel and had enough of it.. e.g. black demons - take forever. Terror dogs - no way in hell I'm going back to Tarn's Lair. And others. So really, just try both of them.. I wouldn't recommend you go to Duradel, but that's just me.. some of his tasks are awesome in that they give a lot of xp, but some just plain suck, and take forever.. which means it's really an inefficient and ineffective way to get xp (more xp/task isn't necessarily better.. especially if that task will take forever, in which you could have finished two or three tasks at another slayer master and gotten more xp). It's not only the best xp/task, it's the better xp/hour, if you slay correctly. None of Sumona's tasks can beat a Duradel task for speed or xp. Black demons are actually a fantastic task. They are slow...but only if you mindlessly meleed them or ranged them. That is an extremely slow and inefficient method. The fastest way of killing them is by cannoning in Taverly dungeon and ranging in a safespot. This causes the cannon to treat the area like multicombat, and the task goes by quick. Terrordogs are not assigned by Duradel. Even if they were, the Slayer Ring instantly teleports you there. Which leads me to the only drawback of Duradel: cost. You will most likely be cannoning many tasks, and if you can't afford that (although anyone who makes over 100k per hour can), then you may want to reconsider. Still, using Sumona efficiently requires just as much cannoning as Duradel. Difficulty is a drawback, but it's really an illusion. Duradel tasks aren't very hard if you know what to do and know what you are doing. The hardest task would be cannoning Scarabites in the dangerous location. Even then, I've never fallen below 60 hp involuntarily. Waterfiends can also be difficult if you slay them in the Chaos Tunnels, but most people do not. So honestly speaking, Duradel is better than Sumona in every aspect I can thinking of. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimatballr Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Duradel does give more exp/hour. Its pretty much been proven. Just because you spend more time on his tasks doesn't mean you are getting less exp because you could of finished 2-3 sumona tasks. The only way it could be more exp/hour would be if there were chunks of bonus exp given at the end of a task. But there isn't so Duradel is best. To the OP: My general rule of thumb is if you are 100+ F2P combat then go to Duradel. If you are 100+ with summoning (but lower than 100 f2p) then stick with Sumona. Apparently, my signature was to big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deltaer Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 I'm not interested in cannoning... I do slayer for combat xp and not really for slayer xp (second priority).. so not interested in spending tons of money on cannon/cannonballs unless I can make it back in drops.. which I can't with black demons. So NO, Duradel is not efficient and effective for me. I'm not denying that it gives some amazing tasks.. of course it does, but there are some drawbacks to it - e.g. black demons.. extremely slow and boring. And yes, Duradel does give terror dogs.. I just got them the other day and had to cancel them. But to the OP, it doesn't hurt to try both.. maybe you'll luck out with your tasks.. I just seem to have been having bad luck with mine lately. Duradel does give more exp/hour. Its pretty much been proven. Just because you spend more time on his tasks doesn't mean you are getting less exp because you could of finished 2-3 sumona tasks. The only way it could be more exp/hour would be if there were chunks of bonus exp given at the end of a task. But there isn't so Duradel is best. Oh ya? Who proved it? Yes it does; from experience, a task with Duradel is usually around 15k xp; sometimes more.. Sumona is usually around 10k.. you do the math. I just know in the time it took me to finish black demons (which I constantly got bored of doing and logged out of RS cause of it), I could have finished a handful of tasks at other slayer masters.. so even if it is faster xp/hour.. that means nothing to me, cause it completely discouraged me from going on. Anyways, that's all I gotta say about it.. but OP, it won't hurt to try Duradel out.. go for it. [2010] Proud Member of Downfall[2004-2005] Former Leader of The Unbreakables, Former Member of Corruption, Former Member of 'The' Clan(...and Anarchy for a few weeks... shhh...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Is_Great Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 ^ actually it could hurt. I tried out our good old buddy Duradel at around 101 f2p combat. And he gave me a task of 50 steel dragons :wall: I cancelled them and guess what! Another task of steel dragons! :wall: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Fray Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 I just know in the time it took me to finish black demons (which I constantly got bored of doing and logged out of RS cause of it) And you get the same Black Demons from Sumona as well. :roll: And I hardly see what is wrong with Black Demons. If you do not cannon, you can always pray them in chaos tunnels. Just use super sets (+ 10% strength) and the task flies by and you get a decent amount of charms for your time. Duradel > Sumona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 I'm not interested in cannoning... I do slayer for combat xp and not really for slayer xp (second priority).. so not interested in spending tons of money on cannon/cannonballs unless I can make it back in drops.. which I can't with black demons. So NO, Duradel is not efficient and effective for me. I'm not denying that it gives some amazing tasks.. of course it does, but there are some drawbacks to it - e.g. black demons.. extremely slow and boring. Here's the problem. "I'm not interested in cannoning" and "For me". You aren't slaying the most efficient way and therefore you aren't getting the best xp. But even still, if you do not cannon any tasks, Duradel still ends up being superior to Sumona, if you block the right tasks for both and cancel efficiently. And yes, Duradel does give terror dogs.. I just got them the other day and had to cancel them. No he doesn't. Tip.It slayer guide says so and in the years I've slain, Duradel has never once given them to me. Duradel does give more exp/hour. Its pretty much been proven. Just because you spend more time on his tasks doesn't mean you are getting less exp because you could of finished 2-3 sumona tasks. The only way it could be more exp/hour would be if there were chunks of bonus exp given at the end of a task. But there isn't so Duradel is best. Oh ya? Who proved it? Yes it does; from experience, a task with Duradel is usually around 15k xp; sometimes more.. Sumona is usually around 10k.. you do the math. I just know in the time it took me to finish black demons (which I constantly got bored of doing and logged out of RS cause of it), I could have finished a handful of tasks at other slayer masters.. so even if it is faster xp/hour.. that means nothing to me, cause it completely discouraged me from going on. QFD: 98-99-703-58532304 He proved it. Certainly there's a boredom factor. However, simply because you are bored doesn't mean the method you are training is the best. The boredom does not apply to everyone. Just because it bores you, doesn't mean it's the worse method. The normal Duradel task takes 30-40 minutes to complete. Any cannonable task takes 20 minutes or so, if assigned in small quantities, around 10 minutes. The fastest task is Scarabites, taking about 6 minutes. Slowest task are Steel Dragons, technically, but those should be blocked. The slowest non-blocked task would be Aquanites or Hellhounds, and both should take less than an hour (or in the case of Aquas, 1 hour if assigned a high number). ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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