92-99 mage, questions, and another option.

[sumondskull6]

 

I just got 92 mage, and I'm still going for 99. I've alched, made planks, fire waved abyssals, fire bolted steels, filled vials, and enchanted bolts. Everything is just too darn repetitive, costs way to much, or doesn't train fast enough. Maybe I'm missing something, I didn't think training magic could be this boring. My question is simply, how should I go about getting 99 mage? ALL advice is greatly appreciated.

 

!NOTE! I am also going for 99 range, and I have thought of a little plan: Get 94 mage and pk till I can afford to chin to 99 range, then solo sara/arma for a hilt. Use the money to burst to 99 mage at rock lobbies. There's obviously many other ways I could make the money to chin/for better solo arma/sara gear, but what methods/gear should I use?

[gorgoroth]

Hoping for a hilt is not smart. Its going to take ages getting one unless you have extreme luck. Looks like youve covered all the usuall bases for Mage Training though. Maging aviansies isnt too bad. Its fun, better than alching (exp wise) and it makes you a small profit in the end. You could also try Superheating or string jewelry?

[sumondskull6]

Hoping for a hilt is not smart. Its going to take ages getting one unless you have extreme luck. Looks like youve covered all the usuall bases for Mage Training though. Maging aviansies isnt too bad. Its fun, better than alching (exp wise) and it makes you a small profit in the end. You could also try Superheating or string jewelry?

 

Can you explain superheating, string jewelry is a no, gold amulets are unbuyable, and anything else is insanely expensive. I have also looked at your guide probably over 20 times in the past month alone wondering how it can make money. If the drop rate is 1/4, that means you get 1 bar / aviansie (roughly). That means you'd have to kill each one in around 4 shots to make money, you'd also have to factor in b2p tabs and barrows repairs. I just don't see how it's profitable, unless I'm missing something?

[gorgoroth]

Hoping for a hilt is not smart. Its going to take ages getting one unless you have extreme luck. Looks like youve covered all the usuall bases for Mage Training though. Maging aviansies isnt too bad. Its fun, better than alching (exp wise) and it makes you a small profit in the end. You could also try Superheating or string jewelry?

 

Can you explain superheating, string jewelry is a no, gold amulets are unbuyable, and anything else is insanely expensive. I have also looked at your guide probably over 20 times in the past month alone wondering how it can make money. If the drop rate is 1/4, that means you get 1 bar / aviansie (roughly). That means you'd have to kill each one in around 4 shots to make money, you'd also have to factor in b2p tabs and barrows repairs. I just don't see how it's profitable, unless I'm missing something?

You forget the fact that they drop Alchables aswell as Water/Air Runes oftern. I also pick up feathers and Death runes and in the end i always make Profit. But yes, using barrows will end up in a Small loss that is why i suggest using Mage Void. Not only does it have a better Def, it also does not degrade. If you dont mind about a possible loss of about 4 mil on your way to 99 then Earth Waving them is the way to go. Anyway as for superheating. I have heard that this can get upto 75k exp an hour if you superheat Iron Ore. This also does not cost alot. Last time i checked it was 2gp/exp. There is also the Alch-Superheat which can get upto 130k exp an hour if done right. (Basically you Superheat an Iron ore and in mid animation you Alch. This will allow you to do 2 Casts at the speed of one meaning you get alot of EXP).

[sumondskull6]

Hoping for a hilt is not smart. Its going to take ages getting one unless you have extreme luck. Looks like youve covered all the usuall bases for Mage Training though. Maging aviansies isnt too bad. Its fun, better than alching (exp wise) and it makes you a small profit in the end. You could also try Superheating or string jewelry?

 

Can you explain superheating, string jewelry is a no, gold amulets are unbuyable, and anything else is insanely expensive. I have also looked at your guide probably over 20 times in the past month alone wondering how it can make money. If the drop rate is 1/4, that means you get 1 bar / aviansie (roughly). That means you'd have to kill each one in around 4 shots to make money, you'd also have to factor in b2p tabs and barrows repairs. I just don't see how it's profitable, unless I'm missing something?

You forget the fact that they drop Alchables aswell as Water/Air Runes oftern. I also pick up feathers and Death runes and in the end i always make Profit. But yes, using barrows will end up in a Small loss that is why i suggest using Mage Void. Not only does it have a better Def, it also does not degrade. If you dont mind about a possible loss of about 4 mil on your way to 99 then Earth Waving them is the way to go. Anyway as for superheating. I have heard that this can get upto 75k exp an hour if you superheat Iron Ore. This also does not cost alot. Last time i checked it was 2gp/exp. There is also the Alch-Superheat which can get upto 130k exp an hour if done right. (Basically you Superheat an Iron ore and in mid animation you Alch. This will allow you to do 2 Casts at the speed of one meaning you get alot of EXP).

 

I know I can probably just look on your guide, but I'm going to ask here anyways. What setup should I use for maging them, and an inventory?

Note that I have a 23m cash pile to spend on supplies/gear, I also have an enhanced Excalibur, and 22 hand cannons that I will sell when I can (there from drops). And lastly, why earth wave instead of fire wave?

[gorgoroth]

Hoping for a hilt is not smart. Its going to take ages getting one unless you have extreme luck. Looks like youve covered all the usuall bases for Mage Training though. Maging aviansies isnt too bad. Its fun, better than alching (exp wise) and it makes you a small profit in the end. You could also try Superheating or string jewelry?

 

Can you explain superheating, string jewelry is a no, gold amulets are unbuyable, and anything else is insanely expensive. I have also looked at your guide probably over 20 times in the past month alone wondering how it can make money. If the drop rate is 1/4, that means you get 1 bar / aviansie (roughly). That means you'd have to kill each one in around 4 shots to make money, you'd also have to factor in b2p tabs and barrows repairs. I just don't see how it's profitable, unless I'm missing something?

You forget the fact that they drop Alchables aswell as Water/Air Runes oftern. I also pick up feathers and Death runes and in the end i always make Profit. But yes, using barrows will end up in a Small loss that is why i suggest using Mage Void. Not only does it have a better Def, it also does not degrade. If you dont mind about a possible loss of about 4 mil on your way to 99 then Earth Waving them is the way to go. Anyway as for superheating. I have heard that this can get upto 75k exp an hour if you superheat Iron Ore. This also does not cost alot. Last time i checked it was 2gp/exp. There is also the Alch-Superheat which can get upto 130k exp an hour if done right. (Basically you Superheat an Iron ore and in mid animation you Alch. This will allow you to do 2 Casts at the speed of one meaning you get alot of EXP).

 

I know I can probably just look on your guide, but I'm going to ask here anyways. What setup should I use for maging them, and an inventory?

Note that I have a 23m cash pile to spend on supplies/gear, I also have an enhanced Excalibur, and 22 hand cannons that I will sell when I can (there from drops). And lastly, why earth wave instead of fire wave?

If youre going to use Ahrims i would suggest the following:

 

Ahrims top and Bottom

Verac/Dh/Guth/Torags Helm

BSS/Normal SS

God Cape/ Trimmed Skillcape (If you are going to use Claws of Guthix + Charge then make sure you wear a Guthix Cape)

Infinity/Mystic Boots

Barrows Gloves

Armadyl Pendant( Only use this until the Aviansies go unagressive then switch to a Fury).

Seers Ring/Any other Ring

Mages Book/Zammy Book

Master Wand/ Lava Staff(This will allow toy to use the same staff for alching the Drops). [if you're going to use Claws of Guthix, use Void Mace]

 

If you are going to use Void

 

Full Void

Bss/Normal SS

Armadyl Pendant( Only use this until the Aviansies go unagressive then switch to a Fury).

God Cape/Trimmed Skillcape (If you are going to use Claws of Guthix + Charge then make sure you wear a Guthix Cape).

Infinity/Mystic Boots

Mages Book/Zammy Book

Master Wand/ Lava Staff(This will allow toy to use the same staff for alching the Drops). [if you're going to use Claws of Guthix, use Void Mace]

 

If you have a Saradomin or Zamorak God Bird take it along as it counts towards a God Item.

 

For inventory i would suggest a few B2P tabs, 100Nats, a few Sharks (I managed to Tank Mage them for a 600KC on 12 sharks while makeing a 100k Profit), E E and if you want take 1 of each item you intend to pick up as a place holder.

 

I would really suggest that you use one of the 10% Damage Bonus Staffs. The extra damage done makes up for the extra runes used.

 

Okay and why Earth Blast? I dont know to be honest. I just found it works better than any other spell. I dont know if its meant to be like that or if its just luck but ive used over 5k casts of each elemental spell and ive found that with earth blast i never splash and my hits are high and constant.

[mrpadre]

If you're looking for profit, Superglass Make currently profits at over 1mil gp an hour. You could also raise your crafting too (You get 78 magic exp and 130 crafting exp per cast).

[sumondskull6]

 

Full Void

Bss/Normal SS

Armadyl Pendant( Only use this until the Aviansies go unagressive then switch to a Fury).

God Cape/Trimmed Skillcape (If you are going to use Claws of Guthix + Charge then make sure you wear a Guthix Cape).

Infinity/Mystic Boots

Mages Book/Zammy Book

Master Wand/ Lava Staff(This will allow toy to use the same staff for alching the Drops). [if you're going to use Claws of Guthix, use Void Mace]

 

If you have a Saradomin or Zamorak God Bird take it along as it counts towards a God Item.

 

For inventory i would suggest a few B2P tabs, 100Nats, a few Sharks (I managed to Tank Mage them for a 600KC on 12 sharks while makeing a 100k Profit), E E and if you want take 1 of each item you intend to pick up as a place holder.

 

I would really suggest that you use one of the 10% Damage Bonus Staffs. The extra damage done makes up for the extra runes used.

 

Okay and why Earth Blast? I dont know to be honest. I just found it works better than any other spell. I dont know if its meant to be like that or if its just luck but ive used over 5k casts of each elemental spell and ive found that with earth blast i never splash and my hits are high and constant.

 

EE, Earth blast, B2P tabs, Alchs, that sound good?

 

Gear:

Full void

Master Wand

God cape

Fury (after unagro)

Infinity boots

 

For the shield you put four different things, BSS, SS, Zammy book, and mages book. I'd kill them IN the armadyl eerie, at the entrance. So I don't think I need a god item, so what shield do you recommend, I'm leaning towards the book just for the accuracy, although maybe a shield would be better?

 

Also, I'd probably camp there for as many spells as I can buy to take with me, if that changes anything.

[Darkvengence]

 

Full Void

Bss/Normal SS

Armadyl Pendant( Only use this until the Aviansies go unagressive then switch to a Fury).

God Cape/Trimmed Skillcape (If you are going to use Claws of Guthix + Charge then make sure you wear a Guthix Cape).

Infinity/Mystic Boots

Mages Book/Zammy Book

Master Wand/ Lava Staff(This will allow toy to use the same staff for alching the Drops). [if you're going to use Claws of Guthix, use Void Mace]

 

If you have a Saradomin or Zamorak God Bird take it along as it counts towards a God Item.

 

For inventory i would suggest a few B2P tabs, 100Nats, a few Sharks (I managed to Tank Mage them for a 600KC on 12 sharks while makeing a 100k Profit), E E and if you want take 1 of each item you intend to pick up as a place holder.

 

I would really suggest that you use one of the 10% Damage Bonus Staffs. The extra damage done makes up for the extra runes used.

 

Okay and why Earth Blast? I dont know to be honest. I just found it works better than any other spell. I dont know if its meant to be like that or if its just luck but ive used over 5k casts of each elemental spell and ive found that with earth blast i never splash and my hits are high and constant.

 

EE, Earth blast, B2P tabs, Alchs, that sound good?

 

Gear:

Full void

Master Wand

God cape

Fury (after unagro)

Infinity boots

 

For the shield you put four different things, BSS, SS, Zammy book, and mages book. I'd kill them IN the armadyl eerie, at the entrance. So I don't think I need a god item, so what shield do you recommend, I'm leaning towards the book just for the accuracy, although maybe a shield would be better?

 

Also, I'd probably camp there for as many spells as I can buy to take with me, if that changes anything.

 

I'd go with the BSS if your willing to pay for it. Nice defence and no negative mage bonus.

[gorgoroth]

The shield is a hard one to decide on. BSS (i think) the only shield that gives a beast ranged def bonus while not giving aa negetive mage Attack bonus. Since you are going to use a Master Wand i would lean towards the BSS/SS simply for its defence bonus. as for everything else, it sounds good to me. You have 99Def and an E E so this should minimize you eating factor. If you do however decide to go for the Mages book instead of Bss/SS then i would suggest a SkillCape to even out the Defence/attack bonus.

 

Also, try this out for 1k casts before you go ahead and spend all your money on Runes. Luck differs from play to player and as i said, you only profit with a good drop rate (keep in mind i wrot this guide before rune prices shot up, i might have to update the guide). And the EXP rates i mention in the guide is based on the results i got. And when i got them 1 was paying 100% attention to what i was doing. Obviously to achieve the same kind of result as i did you are going to have to do the same. Best of luck. Let me know what the result is please :)

[Zaaps1]

Honestly speaking, rock lobsters. For the huge amount of benefits you get, it is EXTREMELY cheap.

 

Alching isn't a bad option nowadays, although Onyx Enchant in the MTA is superior.

 

PC can also get to 90k/hr, but I don't have conclusive data on costs.

[sumondskull6]

I think I'll go with a BSS, or regular SS if BSS doesn't buy, and I don't think it does. I'll buy 1-2k spells and see where that gets me, profit wise. I will definitely get back to you on how it goes, for now, I'm off to bed. Tomorrow I'll have to go get the mage hat and buy runes/b2p tabs. Thanks a ton Slaytanicc!

[Darkvengence]

I think I'll go with a BSS, or regular SS if BSS doesn't buy, and I don't think it does. I'll buy 1-2k spells and see where that gets me, profit wise. I will definitely get back to you on how it goes, for now, I'm off to bed. Tomorrow I'll have to go get the mage hat and buy runes/b2p tabs. Thanks a ton Slaytanicc!

 

Yes BSS is quite hard to buy on the GE, most likely will end up having to buy in w2 or on the forums for over trade price.

[sumondskull6]

I think I'll go with a BSS, or regular SS if BSS doesn't buy, and I don't think it does. I'll buy 1-2k spells and see where that gets me, profit wise. I will definitely get back to you on how it goes, for now, I'm off to bed. Tomorrow I'll have to go get the mage hat and buy runes/b2p tabs. Thanks a ton Slaytanicc!

 

Yes BSS is quite hard to buy on the GE, most likely will end up having to buy in w2 or on the forums for over trade price.

 

If I can't buy a BSS off the GE then I'll just use a regular SS.

[Obtaurian]

I've been using String Jewelery. Gold Amulets are somewhat hard to buy, but I can usually get about 2-5k of them a day. It's a very relaxing way to train, because you really don't have to pay attention. I would burst rock lobsters, but I have no where near the money to get me to 96 (my goal). Just my two cents. Consider string gold amulets.

[n00bfiterpk6]

could just get a whole heap of mage brawlers and stun with sc :D thats what i did lol.

 

but yea try avs but if not, mage training arena is apprently like 300m profit to 99 or something, or bursting/barraging rock lobs would be a good way to go considering the extremely fast xp with the added bonus of charms for that desired summoning level.

[Lore]

If you're looking for profit, Superglass Make currently profits at over 1mil gp an hour. You could also raise your crafting too (You get 78 magic exp and 130 crafting exp per cast).

Idk where you're getting that from, but it's waay too high

[sumondskull6]

I've been using String Jewelery. Gold Amulets are somewhat hard to buy, but I can usually get about 2-5k of them a day. It's a very relaxing way to train, because you really don't have to pay attention. I would burst rock lobsters, but I have no where near the money to get me to 96 (my goal). Just my two cents. Consider string gold amulets.

I couldn't buy any in 4 days, but I will try it again because it's my preferred method. Somewhat cheap + fast.

 

could just get a whole heap of mage brawlers and stun with sc :D thats what i did lol.

 

but yea try avs but if not, mage training arena is apprently like 300m profit to 99 or something, or bursting/barraging rock lobs would be a good way to go considering the extremely fast xp with the added bonus of charms for that desired summoning level.

Mage training arena is probably over 300m profit to 99, but it's less than 15k exp/hour IIR. And I used all my mage brawlers ;)

 

If you're looking for profit, Superglass Make currently profits at over 1mil gp an hour. You could also raise your crafting too (You get 78 magic exp and 130 crafting exp per cast).

Idk where you're getting that from, but it's waay too high

 

There's just no way it's 1m profit/hour. It's not possible for the prices to get that out of control before someones notices, spreads it, and it crashes back down to 200k profit/hour. And that is under 35k mage exp/hour, way to slow.

[mrpadre]

If it's too slow, okay, but it is definitely over 1mil profit per hour, and it hasn't been 200k gp per hour in a long time, lol. You gotta use mousekeys, though.

[gorgoroth]

If it's too slow, okay, but it is definitely over 1mil profit per hour, and it hasn't been 200k gp per hour in a long time, lol. You gotta use mousekeys, though.

Dude, check your statistics please. Its about 1.1mil "cash return" per hour of which only about 400k is profit. You need to spend about 700k on enough supplies for an hour and that 700k will turn into 1.1mil. That means you dont get 1.1m Profit, you only get 400k profit.

[sumondskull6]

If it's too slow, okay, but it is definitely over 1mil profit per hour, and it hasn't been 200k gp per hour in a long time, lol. You gotta use mousekeys, though.

Dude, check your statistics please. Its about 1.1mil "cash return" per hour of which only about 400k is profit. You need to spend about 700k on enough supplies for an hour and that 700k will turn into 1.1mil. That means you dont get 1.1m Profit, you only get 400k profit.

 

There you go. Just got home from school, gonna finish up this trip to abyssals and then head over to PC with wand/BSS offers in the ge.

[mrpadre]

What do you factor in as the casts per hour? I double checked and if everything is bought at medium price the PROFIT per hour 875k, this is assuming 550 casts per hour.

[sumondskull6]

What do you factor in as the casts per hour? I double checked and if everything is bought at medium price the PROFIT per hour 875k, this is assuming 550 casts per hour.

Looking at it more realistically, and without 3rd party softwear, your looking at 350-400 casts/hour. Now factor in the cost of the runes per spell, and however many vials you can fill per inventory, take all that away from how much you sell the water filled vials for and multiply that by 375 and you get your profit/hour. Your probably looking at under 300k.

 

Sorry if I spelled anything wrong, or didn't write out the formula correctly. It's late, I'm tired, and I'm using my Ipod touch.

[mrpadre]

Nah, you're thinking of humidify, you can look at my guide on Superglass Make in General guides, it's similar (meaning it's a bank and cast spell) but it gives much more profit (And it gives crafting exp). It can be done around 550 times an hour, using mousekeys and a full bank.

 

The formula for profit is 16.9 molten glass minus the price of 13 sand, 13 seaweed, 2 astrals, and 6 fires. For casts you can time yourself personally, but I use 550, cause it's my average. Remember, to get that many casts, you need to use mousekeys and a full bank. Mousekeys is kind of the deal breaker, if you can't use them, you're looking at about 350 casts per hour.

[Lore]

I can verify that the average is around 16.9 (I was 85 magic when I did this)

 

Current GE Prices are:

16.9 Glass - 8650

13 Sand - 2470

13 Seaweed - 4082

2 Astrals - 506

6 Fires - 36

 

Profit Per cast - 1558gp

at 350 casts, 545k profit/h

at 550 casts, 857k profit/h

 

It's also rather important to note that glass prices are really high right now. If you drop it back to 460, the same price as this time last month, your profit drops right down to 375k at 550 casts/h.

 

However, I fail to see how you could possibly use mousekeys to open your bank, deposit the glass, withdraw two separate items, close your bank, cast, and repeat. Surely it'd have to be an external program..

 

And neither method changes the fact, that this is miserable xp - around 20k/h at best.