There is only one solution that will stop price manipulators in their tracks. Jagex can freeze the prices of every single item in game.

 

Is this what you want?

I hope not.

 

Is this what will happen?

I doubt it

 

 

As long as there is a demand for experience, prices will remain high. Your best bet is to take your GP and put it to work, working for itself. Investing isn't hard to understand, and in runescape, the risk seems to be much less than IRL. If you can't beat them, join them.

Better yet, beat them at their own game. Price manipulators are in it for the short haul.... investing is in it for the long haul. Pick an item that was recently dumped. Buy it up. Hoard it. Next time it gets manipulated, help the manipulators get what they want - that item at a higher price.

 

Freezing prices isn't the only solution. There are other solutions, each with their positive and negative consequences. Jagex right now is giving the GE too much independence and freedom for itself. Sure, they have the whole +/-5% market price change cap , but that's easily outdone, as prices still get manipulated easily. As of right now, the GE usually updates daily.

 

One option I have is, extend the price inflation/deflation delay margin by more than 1 day for those items that hit the +/-5% market price cap or maybe even at +/-4%. That means that every item's prices will continue to update daily, but for those that have hit the market price change cap of +/-5%(or +/-4%), they're price update would get delayed an extra day or two. This would mean price rises and fall will not be frozen, or manipulated by Jagex themselves, but rather tamed so as to hinder greatly the objectives of price manipulation clans. (On a side note: This would not hurt real merchanters much, it at all, since merchanters don't actually price manipulate).

 

Let's face it, perhaps we won't be able to completely eliminate Price Manipulation clans, but we can slow them down. Draw interest away from the whole price manipulation, therefore weakening the clans.

To Quel I want to repeat, I don't approve of it. I don't view it as anything that should be against the rules, I simply don't personally find it right. All they do it collect other people's money. They contribute nothing to the community whatsoever.

 

We talking here doesn't contribute to society or community either. We slaughtering others in PvP worlds are wasting their hours of effort training to get cash to buy their armor or whatever. I could go on with tons of examples, but you get the point.

 

People are selfish. Most don't give a damn about "contributing to society". Most companies or other organisations donate to charities not sincerely but just to boost their public image.

 

I'm selfish too, but I do rational self-interest. I get seeds from monster drops, plant thenm, harvest herbs, make pots, sell the pots. People get my pots, I get a buttload of cash. That is what I am talking about as far as contribution. But when someone buys some herbs, then sells them for more, and keeps the cash, and that's it, I don't think this does anything for anyone. The difference is other people benefit from my selfishness, but not from the merchanters.

To Quel I want to repeat, I don't approve of it. I don't view it as anything that should be against the rules, I simply don't personally find it right. All they do it collect other people's money. They contribute nothing to the community whatsoever.

 

We talking here doesn't contribute to society or community either. We slaughtering others in PvP worlds are wasting their hours of effort training to get cash to buy their armor or whatever. I could go on with tons of examples, but you get the point.

 

People are selfish. Most don't give a damn about "contributing to society". Most companies or other organisations donate to charities not sincerely but just to boost their public image.

 

I'm selfish too, but I do rational self-interest. I get seeds from monster drops, plant thenm, harvest herbs, make pots, sell the pots. People get my pots, I get a buttload of cash. That is what I am talking about as far as contribution. But when someone buys some herbs, then sells them for more, and keeps the cash, and that's it, I don't think this does anything for anyone. The difference is other people benefit from my selfishness, but not from the merchanters.

 

After reading this discussion, I have to agree with every point you have made.

To Quel I want to repeat, I don't approve of it. I don't view it as anything that should be against the rules, I simply don't personally find it right. All they do it collect other people's money. They contribute nothing to the community whatsoever.

 

We talking here doesn't contribute to society or community either. We slaughtering others in PvP worlds are wasting their hours of effort training to get cash to buy their armor or whatever. I could go on with tons of examples, but you get the point.

 

People are selfish. Most don't give a damn about "contributing to society". Most companies or other organisations donate to charities not sincerely but just to boost their public image.

 

I'm selfish too, but I do rational self-interest. I get seeds from monster drops, plant thenm, harvest herbs, make pots, sell the pots. People get my pots, I get a buttload of cash. That is what I am talking about as far as contribution. But when someone buys some herbs, then sells them for more, and keeps the cash, and that's it, I don't think this does anything for anyone. The difference is other people benefit from my selfishness, but not from the merchanters.

 

After reading this discussion, I have to agree with every point you have made.

 

Who?

 

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I've already said nobody gives a damn for contributing to society. Tell me - is your main intention of selling pots to get money and exp or to really "contribute" to society? Obviously to get the cash. And that is not "contributing" to society.

 

Anyhow, even if Jagex deems that merchants don't contribute to society whereas players do, what can they do about it? If people want to buy low sell high, let them. Everyone buys a house, then sells it a few years or more later for a profit (as far as possible anyway). Governments aren't doing a thing to block these people who don't "contribute to society".

To Quel I want to repeat, I don't approve of it. I don't view it as anything that should be against the rules, I simply don't personally find it right. All they do it collect other people's money. They contribute nothing to the community whatsoever.

 

We talking here doesn't contribute to society or community either. We slaughtering others in PvP worlds are wasting their hours of effort training to get cash to buy their armor or whatever. I could go on with tons of examples, but you get the point.

 

People are selfish. Most don't give a damn about "contributing to society". Most companies or other organisations donate to charities not sincerely but just to boost their public image.

 

I'm selfish too, but I do rational self-interest. I get seeds from monster drops, plant thenm, harvest herbs, make pots, sell the pots. People get my pots, I get a buttload of cash. That is what I am talking about as far as contribution. But when someone buys some herbs, then sells them for more, and keeps the cash, and that's it, I don't think this does anything for anyone. The difference is other people benefit from my selfishness, but not from the merchanters.

 

After reading this discussion, I have to agree with every point you have made.

 

Who?

 

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I've already said nobody gives a damn for contributing to society. Tell me - is your main intention of selling pots to get money and exp or to really "contribute" to society? Obviously to get the cash. And that is not "contributing" to society.

 

Anyhow, even if Jagex deems that merchants don't contribute to society whereas players do, what can they do about it? If people want to buy low sell high, let them. Everyone buys a house, then sells it a few years or more later for a profit (as far as possible anyway). Governments aren't doing a thing to block these people who don't "contribute to society".

 

No, no one does. I don't give a damn about contributing to society. What I said though was my version of selfishness helps myself and other people while merchanting helps no one else but themselves. I like that I'm able to help other people though I will always help myself first. I consider this to be more moral than merchanting.

 

I don't think they can do anything about it. I don't think they should do anything about it.

 

To Quel I want to repeat, I don't approve of it. I don't view it as anything that should be against the rules, I simply don't personally find it right. All they do it collect other people's money. They contribute nothing to the community whatsoever.

 

I said that on December the 11th. I don't think it should be against the law. I don't approve, but that's a personal opinion. I also don't think there is any apt comparison between Jagex and a government so I'm confused how you made that leap. But if we take your example, I'll put forth this. If someone buys property, does nothing, and sell it for more, I don't find it all that immoral or moral. I simply wouldn't do it. If they buy something because they think it'll be worth more in the future, that is different as well. What I do like is someone like Jeff Lewis from that Bravo show "Flipping Out." He'd buy a house, fix it up very nice, and sell it for a profit. He'd make a profit, he'd fix up some property, people would buy the property and have a nice house, it all works out great. :thumbsup:

Ok, you have your opinion, I have mine.

 

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Anyhow, Jagex is similar to a government because a government controls a nation. Jagex controls the players in a game.

 

Definition of Nation: A relatively large group of people organized under a single, usually independent government; a country.

 

Similar to Jagex and players don't you think?

I'll say that they are a governing body over a game, but no, nothing close to a government.