zhong881209 Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 the main purpose i want this is to increase performance, as the harddisk i had is quite slow, where ram is much more faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauke Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I think the game just needs to know where you stored the ifnormation, so that it can be accessed. Here it's automatically stored at my C drive, although I'd rather have it somewhere else. I don't know what happens if you simply move it to a different drive. But it doesn't hurt to try it. If the game can't find the information anymore, it'll probably just download a new batch to your pc. Twitter ||| Google+ ||| Facebook ||| LinkedIn ||| My very interesting weblog about science Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhong881209 Posted January 21, 2010 Author Share Posted January 21, 2010 ya, this is what happen to me, i had try some way like rename the shortcut to the same name (.jagex_cache_32.lnk) and put in the Windows folder, but it still create a new one.is that anyway that can address it to use other place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Moving it wont help. It automatically Downloads/Runs the Script and Cache data from the Active Primary Drive. if its speed you want, you'll need to alter a few things, Such as Increase RAM (if needed), Run Disk Cleanup to get rid of unused Files and Defragment your C: Drive so its more compact rather then have bits of Data sitting everywhere. Popoto.~<3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDaStudd Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 If you know how ram works you'll know that what your asking is silly.Ram is short term memory, when every an application is opened it runs in ram. Ram is wiped every time you power off your PC.By putting the game files onto the ram you would essentially have to download the entire game every time you want to play it.Your harddrive is the long term memory, when the power is off it keeps the data. Its slower then ram by a long way, but its semi-permanent data.When you load the game for the first time all the files go to the harddrive, the files needed at the time are then loaded into the ram (same happens each time you load the same) which is used until you close the window. [hide=Drops]Dragon Axe x11Berserker Ring x9Warrior Ring x8SeercullDragon MedDragon Boots x4 - all less then 30 kcGodsword Shard (bandos)Granite Maul x 3Solo only - doesn't include barrows[/hide][hide=Stats][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roscular Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Joe, everything you have said is perfectly correct except that what Zhong was referring to is the little used concept of a RAM disk which can be created manually through Windows control panel (somewhere). It is a way of treating a portion of the RAM as if it were another hard disk for faster access, a bit like a solid state drive I suppose. Anyway, in answer to Zhong, even if they allowed you to change the location of the cache, it wouldn't help as the dlls in there are loaded into RAM anyway and stay there for the duration of your game. They are used for the 3D graphics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhong881209 Posted January 21, 2010 Author Share Posted January 21, 2010 Joe, as Roscular say, i can make use a portion of the ram as fixed disk, it is automatically create even before windows is load (some is after) where i can use save and load the data in it using ramdisk or batch file. Roscular, what you mean by that? what i experience is that everytime move from place to place, runescape had to load the map which take about 4-5 sec, sometime even more then 5 sec. Try imagine that when you are in combat with monsters or players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Runescape client is setup to store data in a specific place and then look for it in tht specific place. So no you cannot move it. Map loading taking a few seconds only really happens if you haven't visited that map square before or you're internet connection is on the slow side/ lagging. Runescape deals in such small files even a really old slow harddrive is not gonna have any great impact on loading, since all harddrive have atleast 1mb/s transfer speed and Rs files we are talking maybe a couple of kb at most, but usually just bytes. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roscular Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Joe, as Roscular say, i can make use a portion of the ram as fixed disk, it is automatically create even before windows is load (some is after) where i can use save and load the data in it using ramdisk or batch file. Roscular, what you mean by that? what i experience is that everytime move from place to place, runescape had to load the map which take about 4-5 sec, sometime even more then 5 sec. Try imagine that when you are in combat with monsters or players. That sounds unusual. The way they should be accessing the code in those cache files is to load them in when you start the game. I would think it is something else causing the problem. Would you say your computer is a decent spec? i.e. does it have a dedicated graphics card? Also, does the problem occur all over Runescape consistently? The reason I ask this is that on my new computer I had serious unplayable lag issues which I eventually worked out was related to the music in different areas of Runescape! When I muted it, I had no problems. It eventually cleared up and may have been fixed by a patch to Runescape or my sound card (can't remember which). There are some seriously strange issues that can cause problems like this. Try experimenting to see if you can work out when it happens. Oh and it goes without saying to follow the Jagex advice first if you haven't already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDaStudd Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I've yet to find a worthy use for ramdisk though.Only programs which will work are portable and hence low requirements anyway.Any files well they would change so often and commonly it would be a pointless exercise. [hide=Drops]Dragon Axe x11Berserker Ring x9Warrior Ring x8SeercullDragon MedDragon Boots x4 - all less then 30 kcGodsword Shard (bandos)Granite Maul x 3Solo only - doesn't include barrows[/hide][hide=Stats][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhong881209 Posted January 21, 2010 Author Share Posted January 21, 2010 i talking about the map that i go through everyday many times. my cache folder is over 100mb for an f2p, so i think is roughly all place i already visited before.other files is small, but the main cache is quite big. so i think everytime need to access large cache to retrieve such small size of map maybe could take sometime.this PC is my father buy for me while he ask the salesperson for the cheapest while my older and much more slower PC spoil(that barely able to run RS2 when it come out)this is my current PC specsCPU 1.4ghz1gb ddr2 ramintegrated graphic card, just enough to barely run HD, but running HD is faster then SD (lower CPU usage and smoother)win XP SP3i using Data RAM Ramdisk and AR soft RAMdisk(quite good)i maybe going to buy a new PC sometime late end of this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roscular Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Zhong, sorry I was a bit stupid before, and got the wrong end of the stick. Now I understand which files you mean. I have been using a computer with better specs than that which freezes quite often when running across the map especially on HD. I think you are going to have trouble anyway. I ran Process Monitor (from sysinternals) and that shows that the problems occur when reading the main_file_cache.dat2 file. That seems to be loaded into memory and never gets closed again which means that all the problems that occur are related to RAM and/or CPU speed. That means a RAM disk would not help anyway. Basically, follow Dark_Aura's advice and add more RAM as a cheap option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhong881209 Posted January 21, 2010 Author Share Posted January 21, 2010 if you say that all the cache already loaded into RAM,but then, why the memory(RAM) usage will keep on increasing while playing?then increasing RAM would not even help a bit since I not using paging and the memory usage rarely over 500 while playing.but it is weird that CPU and RAM slow to read out data that already store in the RAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roscular Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 The memory footprint increases as the game allocates memory to the different activities in the game and is not just related to the cache files. You seem to be doing everything you can to give you better performance on your machine so it seems that you are just limited by your machine specs. I notice that the minimum spec for Runescape HD is supposedly 1.5GHz processor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhong881209 Posted January 21, 2010 Author Share Posted January 21, 2010 ok, actually my processer is 1.5ghz(just enough:)), i just add some "spice" to see anything extra comment can i get.oh well, i guess i had to bear with it until can buy a new one then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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