Retech Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 Okay, I edited it, and according to the thingy, I have 28 skill points. I see there are "class skills". Are these the only ones I can use? Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earth Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 archi? how is it more complicated?... Youtube account: Earthgragonsage; currently uploading not an effing thing.[hide=Memorable Crossroads Quotes.]Reigan: NO MOOSE CAN SAVE US NOW; ...Had that been taken out of context, it would have been comical... Right now, it's terrifying.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 3.5 is supposed to cover every possible varriation for the fullest range of characters possibly imaginable... 4 simplifies everything....Its one of those things that you will notice when you actually play the game... http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earth Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 okay. so ross, want to give it a go? we can just name it as a practise run, so no worries about the others. Youtube account: Earthgragonsage; currently uploading not an effing thing.[hide=Memorable Crossroads Quotes.]Reigan: NO MOOSE CAN SAVE US NOW; ...Had that been taken out of context, it would have been comical... Right now, it's terrifying.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted March 21, 2010 Author Share Posted March 21, 2010 archi? how is it more complicated?...It is, but I like the spell level system. Again, sorry Archi, I know it's a huge pain. Retech, basically, if you take a class skill level, it costs 1 skill point, wheras if you take anything else, it costs 2 skill points.Maximum rank in a class skill is [character level]+3 ranks, for a non-class skill, it's half this number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 What spell level system?There are levels in the 4e system, they just have 4 types instead of lumping them all together.... http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted March 21, 2010 Author Share Posted March 21, 2010 Gah, now I'm confused.I'm still not sure, because I've never actually played 4E, in truth. I only have any experience with 3.5E, and I don't really want to learn new systems and such... Are you okay with that, Archi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 Yeah, its fine, I will just adapt...we can always play 4e at a later date. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earth Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 ross... what do you say we do a test run, after archi fins his sheet. that way, we can see if it works. Youtube account: Earthgragonsage; currently uploading not an effing thing.[hide=Memorable Crossroads Quotes.]Reigan: NO MOOSE CAN SAVE US NOW; ...Had that been taken out of context, it would have been comical... Right now, it's terrifying.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted March 21, 2010 Author Share Posted March 21, 2010 Uuuhh....I guess so. I'll just build a random castle with no backstory to it as a trial run. Sound good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earth Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 fine wit me, what say you, archi? Youtube account: Earthgragonsage; currently uploading not an effing thing.[hide=Memorable Crossroads Quotes.]Reigan: NO MOOSE CAN SAVE US NOW; ...Had that been taken out of context, it would have been comical... Right now, it's terrifying.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 If I can get on then fine. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphi Posted March 21, 2010 Author Share Posted March 21, 2010 Okay, give me a while to set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earth Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 takin longer than you expected, bud? meh, i might as well work on a map meself.. if i can. Youtube account: Earthgragonsage; currently uploading not an effing thing.[hide=Memorable Crossroads Quotes.]Reigan: NO MOOSE CAN SAVE US NOW; ...Had that been taken out of context, it would have been comical... Right now, it's terrifying.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 http://users.aber.ac.uk/lug9/hege/character.pdf[hide]ArchiMale Halfling Illusionist 1Chaotic GoodRepresenting Archi Strength 8 (-1) Dexterity 13 (+1) Constitution 16 (+3) Intelligence 18 (+4) Wisdom 16 (+3) Charisma 14 (+2) Size: Small Height: 2' 11" Weight: 32 lb Eyes: Red Hair: Gray Skin: Pale Specialty: Illusion Gave up: Necromancy Transmutation Total Hit Points: 7 Speed: 20 feet Armor Class: 12 = 10 + 1 [dexterity] + 1 [small] Touch AC: 12Flat-footed: 11Initiative modifier: + 1 = + 1 [dexterity] Fortitude save: + 4 = 0 [base] + 3 [constitution] + 1 [halfling] Reflex save: + 2 = 0 [base] + 1 [dexterity] + 1 [halfling] Will save: + 6 = 2 [base] + 3 [wisdom] + 1 [halfling] Attack (handheld): + 0 = 0 [base] -1 [strength] + 1 [small] Attack (missile): + 2 = 0 [base] + 1 [dexterity] + 1 [small] Grapple check: -5 = 0 [base] -1 [strength] -4 [small] Light load:Medium load:Heavy load:Lift over head:Lift off ground:Push or drag: 20 or less20-40 lb.41-60 lb.60 lb.120 lb.300 lb. Languages: Common, Halfling, Draconic, Orcish, Terran, Giant, Elven, Abyssal Raven familiar Feats: Spell Penetration Scribe Scroll [free to wizard] Skill Name KeyAbility SkillModifier AbilityModifier Ranks Misc.Modifier Appraise Int 6 = +4 + 2 [raven] Balance Dex* 1 = +1 Bluff Cha 2 = +2 Climb Str* 1 = -1 + 2 [halfling] Concentration Con 7 = +3 + 4 Craft_1 Int 4 = +4 Craft_2 Int 4 = +4 Craft_3 Int 4 = +4 Diplomacy Cha 2 = +2 Disguise Cha 2 = +2 Escape Artist Dex* 1 = +1 Forgery Int 4 = +4 Gather Information Cha 2 = +2 Heal Wis 3 = +3 Hide Dex* 5 = +1 + 4 [small] Intimidate Cha 2 = +2 Jump Str* -5 = -1 + 2 [halfling] -6 [speed 20] Knowledge (arcana) Int 8 = +4 + 4 Knowledge (history) Int 6 = +4 + 2 Knowledge (local) Int 8 = +4 + 4 Knowledge (nature) Int 6 = +4 + 2 Knowledge (religion) Int 6 = +4 + 2 Knowledge (planes) Int 6 = +4 + 2 Listen Wis 5 = +3 + 2 [halfling] Move Silently Dex* 3 = +1 + 2 [halfling] Perform_1 Cha 2 = +2 Perform_2 Cha 2 = +2 Perform_3 Cha 2 = +2 Perform_4 Cha 2 = +2 Perform_5 Cha 2 = +2 Ride Dex 1 = +1 Search Int 4 = +4 Sense Motive Wis 3 = +3 Spot Wis 3 = +3 Survival Wis 3 = +3 Swim Str** -1 = -1 Use Rope Dex 1 = +1 * = check penalty for wearing armor This character also has 2 ranks in Speak Languages.If the familiar is within reach, + 2 on spot and listen ("alertness"). Zero-level Illusionist spells: 4 (3 + 1) per day First-level Illusionist spells: 3 (1 + 1 + 1) per day Halfling + 2 dexterity / -2 strength (already included) Small (combat bonuses, + 4 to hide already included) + 2 racial bonus on climb, jump, move silently + 1 racial bonus on all saving throws (already included) + 2 morale bonus on saves vs. fear (stacks with racial bonus) + 1 to hit with thrown weapons and slings + 2 racial bonus on listen checks (already included) Wizard (Illusionist) Familiar / Alertness, etc. Bonus Feats (already included) High intelligence gains bonus spells daily Specialist gets 1 extra illusion spell/level/day Class HP rolled Level 1: Illusionist 4 Archi's Equipment: 0 lb2 lb2 lb3 lb_____7 lb Weapons / Armor / Shield (from above)BackpackSpell component pouchSpellbook x1 Total More about Archi: Looks generally Wizardly, except pint sized. [/hide] http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earth Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 archiii... thats not really what ur suposed to do... Youtube account: Earthgragonsage; currently uploading not an effing thing.[hide=Memorable Crossroads Quotes.]Reigan: NO MOOSE CAN SAVE US NOW; ...Had that been taken out of context, it would have been comical... Right now, it's terrifying.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 It really is...This is a proper 3.5 character sheet... http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earth Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 check on the front page, and look at roccos sheet.. thats the way ur suposed to do it, according to ross. Youtube account: Earthgragonsage; currently uploading not an effing thing.[hide=Memorable Crossroads Quotes.]Reigan: NO MOOSE CAN SAVE US NOW; ...Had that been taken out of context, it would have been comical... Right now, it's terrifying.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 Its the same information, arranged in a 'better' order.... http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earth Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 better... yes... because you can actually read it without getting a headache... Youtube account: Earthgragonsage; currently uploading not an effing thing.[hide=Memorable Crossroads Quotes.]Reigan: NO MOOSE CAN SAVE US NOW; ...Had that been taken out of context, it would have been comical... Right now, it's terrifying.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 Question for any DnD veteran:If I spend two skill ponts (1 for class skill) on a skill, how does it benefit me? Does it improve your rolls (and by how much) or increase "levels", which would lead to the question, how do levels improve rolls. Then I keep reading about this DC stuff, and I'm confused. :( Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 Anywho, no spells included because the generator didn't include spells and I don't like the dnd20 site(though was useful, I still don't like it :roll: ) So Ross can you help with that. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earth Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 mah head hurts... looks like an uber migrane comming on.. i can deal tho. Youtube account: Earthgragonsage; currently uploading not an effing thing.[hide=Memorable Crossroads Quotes.]Reigan: NO MOOSE CAN SAVE US NOW; ...Had that been taken out of context, it would have been comical... Right now, it's terrifying.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earth Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 meh, i wish i could figure out where the paint tool is.. Youtube account: Earthgragonsage; currently uploading not an effing thing.[hide=Memorable Crossroads Quotes.]Reigan: NO MOOSE CAN SAVE US NOW; ...Had that been taken out of context, it would have been comical... Right now, it's terrifying.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 They increase your roll by whatever level they are...So... ConcentrationBased off of Constitution, so +3With 4 levels in skill points, so +4So +7 overall.... So if I need 16 to stay concentrating on casting a spell, I only need to roll a 9, rather than needing to roll a 13... http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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