Okay, I edited it, and according to the thingy, I have 28 skill points. I see there are "class skills". Are these the only ones I can use?

archi? how is it more complicated?...

3.5 is supposed to cover every possible varriation for the fullest range of characters possibly imaginable... 4 simplifies everything....Its one of those things that you will notice when you actually play the game...

okay. so ross, want to give it a go? we can just name it as a practise run, so no worries about the others.

archi? how is it more complicated?...

It is, but I like the spell level system. Again, sorry Archi, I know it's a huge pain.

 

Retech, basically, if you take a class skill level, it costs 1 skill point, wheras if you take anything else, it costs 2 skill points.

Maximum rank in a class skill is [character level]+3 ranks, for a non-class skill, it's half this number.

What spell level system?

There are levels in the 4e system, they just have 4 types instead of lumping them all together....

Gah, now I'm confused.

I'm still not sure, because I've never actually played 4E, in truth. I only have any experience with 3.5E, and I don't really want to learn new systems and such...

 

Are you okay with that, Archi?

Yeah, its fine, I will just adapt...we can always play 4e at a later date.

ross... what do you say we do a test run, after archi fins his sheet. that way, we can see if it works.

Uuuhh....I guess so. I'll just build a random castle with no backstory to it as a trial run.

 

Sound good?

fine wit me, what say you, archi?

If I can get on then fine.

Okay, give me a while to set up.

takin longer than you expected, bud? meh, i might as well work on a map meself.. if i can.

http://users.aber.ac.uk/lug9/hege/character.pdf

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Archi

Male Halfling Illusionist 1

Chaotic Good

Representing Archi

 

 

Strength 8 (-1)

Dexterity 13 (+1)

Constitution 16 (+3)

Intelligence 18 (+4)

Wisdom 16 (+3)

Charisma 14 (+2)

Size: Small

Height: 2' 11"

Weight: 32 lb

Eyes: Red

Hair: Gray

Skin: Pale

 

 

 

Specialty: Illusion

 

Gave up: Necromancy Transmutation

 

Total Hit Points: 7

 

Speed: 20 feet

 

Armor Class: 12 = 10 + 1 [dexterity] + 1 [small]

 

Touch AC: 12

Flat-footed: 11

Initiative modifier: + 1 = + 1 [dexterity]

Fortitude save: + 4 = 0 [base] + 3 [constitution] + 1 [halfling]

Reflex save: + 2 = 0 [base] + 1 [dexterity] + 1 [halfling]

Will save: + 6 = 2 [base] + 3 [wisdom] + 1 [halfling]

Attack (handheld): + 0 = 0 [base] -1 [strength] + 1 [small]

Attack (missile): + 2 = 0 [base] + 1 [dexterity] + 1 [small]

Grapple check: -5 = 0 [base] -1 [strength] -4 [small]

 

 

Light load:

Medium load:

Heavy load:

Lift over head:

Lift off ground:

Push or drag:

20 or less

20-40 lb.

41-60 lb.

60 lb.

120 lb.

300 lb.

 

 

 

 

Languages: Common, Halfling, Draconic, Orcish, Terran, Giant, Elven, Abyssal

 

 

Raven familiar

 

 

Feats:

 

Spell Penetration

Scribe Scroll [free to wizard]

 

Skill Name Key

Ability Skill

Modifier Ability

Modifier Ranks Misc.

Modifier

Appraise Int 6 = +4 + 2 [raven]

Balance Dex* 1 = +1

Bluff Cha 2 = +2

Climb Str* 1 = -1 + 2 [halfling]

Concentration Con 7 = +3 + 4

Craft_1 Int 4 = +4

Craft_2 Int 4 = +4

Craft_3 Int 4 = +4

Diplomacy Cha 2 = +2

Disguise Cha 2 = +2

Escape Artist Dex* 1 = +1

Forgery Int 4 = +4

Gather Information Cha 2 = +2

Heal Wis 3 = +3

Hide Dex* 5 = +1 + 4 [small]

Intimidate Cha 2 = +2

Jump Str* -5 = -1 + 2 [halfling] -6 [speed 20]

Knowledge (arcana) Int 8 = +4 + 4

Knowledge (history) Int 6 = +4 + 2

Knowledge (local) Int 8 = +4 + 4

Knowledge (nature) Int 6 = +4 + 2

Knowledge (religion) Int 6 = +4 + 2

Knowledge (planes) Int 6 = +4 + 2

Listen Wis 5 = +3 + 2 [halfling]

Move Silently Dex* 3 = +1 + 2 [halfling]

Perform_1 Cha 2 = +2

Perform_2 Cha 2 = +2

Perform_3 Cha 2 = +2

Perform_4 Cha 2 = +2

Perform_5 Cha 2 = +2

Ride Dex 1 = +1

Search Int 4 = +4

Sense Motive Wis 3 = +3

Spot Wis 3 = +3

Survival Wis 3 = +3

Swim Str** -1 = -1

Use Rope Dex 1 = +1

 

 

* = check penalty for wearing armor

 

This character also has 2 ranks in Speak Languages.

If the familiar is within reach, + 2 on spot and listen ("alertness").

 

 

Zero-level Illusionist spells: 4 (3 + 1) per day

 

 

 

First-level Illusionist spells: 3 (1 + 1 + 1) per day

 

 

 

 

Halfling

 

• 
  + 2 dexterity / -2 strength (already included)
   
  Small (combat bonuses, + 4 to hide already included)
   
  + 2 racial bonus on climb, jump, move silently
   
  + 1 racial bonus on all saving throws (already included)
   
  + 2 morale bonus on saves vs. fear (stacks with racial bonus)
   
  + 1 to hit with thrown weapons and slings
   
  + 2 racial bonus on listen checks (already included)
   
  

 

Wizard (Illusionist)

 

Familiar / Alertness, etc.

 

Bonus Feats (already included)

 

High intelligence gains bonus spells daily

 

Specialist gets 1 extra illusion spell/level/day

 

 

Class HP rolled

Level 1: Illusionist 4

 

 

 

Archi's Equipment:

 

 

0 lb

2 lb

2 lb

3 lb

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7 lb Weapons / Armor / Shield (from above)

Backpack

Spell component pouch

Spellbook x1

 

Total

 

 

 

 

 

More about Archi:

 

Looks generally Wizardly, except pint sized.

 

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archiii... thats not really what ur suposed to do...

It really is...This is a proper 3.5 character sheet...

check on the front page, and look at roccos sheet.. thats the way ur suposed to do it, according to ross.

Its the same information, arranged in a 'better' order....

better... yes... because you can actually read it without getting a headache...

Question for any DnD veteran:

If I spend two skill ponts (1 for class skill) on a skill, how does it benefit me? Does it improve your rolls (and by how much) or increase "levels", which would lead to the question, how do levels improve rolls.

 

Then I keep reading about this DC stuff, and I'm confused. :(

Anywho, no spells included because the generator didn't include spells and I don't like the dnd20 site(though was useful, I still don't like it :roll: )

So Ross can you help with that.

mah head hurts... looks like an uber migrane comming on.. i can deal tho.

meh, i wish i could figure out where the paint tool is..

They increase your roll by whatever level they are...So...

 

Concentration

Based off of Constitution, so +3

With 4 levels in skill points, so +4

So +7 overall....

 

 

So if I need 16 to stay concentrating on casting a spell, I only need to roll a 9, rather than needing to roll a 13...