i like da monthly rent for comon plot idea

 

 

 

like 5-10k a month

i like da monthly rent for comon plot idea

 

 

 

like 5-10k a month

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think after this discussion I agree with you that a weekly, or monthly rental of a land plot would be much better. However, 5-10k a month is the most pointless payment in the world. I'd suggest keeping the auction, and allow players to decide what they're willing to pay for a week of public display. This, in the long run, would lead to quite lower prices, and instead of just crashing Rares like Permanent Plots, would allow a much steadier release of GP.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sure, Rares will always be on the rise, and there's no problem with that. Like I've said, without inflation, Rares would increase much more naturally, and at a steadier and slower pace.

renting a house? as an effect of the carpentry skill? wheres the skill in that? and what if you run out of money? you get evicted? lol

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

but seriously, carpentry should be about building stuff, houses in particular, and possibly selling them for a profit, or keeping it to compliment another skill. and owning a house should also include a lot of maintenence and repairing. this way nobody could simply buy a house cash without first having the skill level high enough to build and repair the house they own, otherwise the house would quickly fall apart and cause the owner to lose his investment, unless he "hires" skilled carpenter to fix the house for him lol

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

sounds like a very tricky skill. i hope jagex really thought this through. or maybe its the reason why it took so long to get into the game...

Ok, so much to say.. Firstly: I'm a bit surprised by your stance on POH, especially early in the post.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm pretty sure they would be untradeable

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That I have to hear that from a merchant is really saddening :(. Making items untradable just because they would be merchanted otherwise is a lame excuse. Jagex has made way too many things untradable already - and IMO that's definately not a good road to take for any mmorpg. Like someone earlier said in this post: the power of these games is the interaction... The ability to trade items in a game makes for a big part of that interaction.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What is the advantage from making items untradable in the first place anyway?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I mean, Land prices would be pretty high otherwise

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They'll be high when you make it untradable too, especially because they are so limited (even though they are slowly increasing). Ofcourse it would depend on the usefulness of the land. If it wouldn't be so useful, prices would be higher when the land is not tradable, if land would be very useful, I don't think there would be all that much of a difference.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Duke would likely only be able to afford one nice plot if this was implemented

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Err... If they are going to be that expensive I'll most likely refrain from buying one at all. Knowing that we shouldn't expect too much spectucalair advantages from POH's (Jagex is not known for giving rich people very big advantages - or at least, they try to prevent it in general) I doubt it would be worth that... But even if it would be worth that, I would see too much gp being drained from the economy by this, thus I would probably be better off by just keeping my cash and eventually waiting to buy at a later time.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As far as the people calling me a Rares hater, that couldn't be farther from the truth. I love Rares, and spend nearly all my time on Runescape dealing with them. I am simply stating that they are beginning to really slip away from the rest of the economy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The way you suggest it right now would be rather destructive for the rares market, aka a pretty fast crash in prices... No thanks - I really think you overlooked the consequences of what you suggested.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Around this time next year, if the game continues at its current rate, we could be paying 150 Mil for Blue Party Hats.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Probably higher at the current rate even.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now, this wouldn't be a real problem if there were any methods whatsoever to acquire this money in the game, but there really isn't. Jagex temporarily made Rares very obtainable with the release of Slayer, but by next year it will likely require 50+ Whips just to buy a Blue. Staking aside, there's no way for any new player to make that much money these days (unless he's ready to mine 750,000 Coal).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Er.. No methods? Apart from staking and merchanting we also have runecrafting at ~1.3mil per hour these days, which is probably not going to change. Even for lower leveled players it's 400K per hour which I still don't consider bad.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Besides that we shouldn't be making rares very obtainable in the first place! That only leads to their prices exploding... Didn't you learn anything from the Slayer richness? :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think after this discussion I agree with you that a weekly, or monthly rental of a land plot would be much better.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm glad you end up with this conclusion later in the post yourself because what you suggested before still wouldn't a permanent money drain anyway. Rental would be much better if we want a real money drain like barrows.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm sorry to say, but IMO your suggestions before this were unthoughtful.. They wouldn't 'fix' the economy - they would rather 'destroy' it and they could easily lead to an even bigger gap between poor and rich people - something I don't think we really need.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This, in the long run, would lead to quite lower prices, and instead of just crashing Rares like Permanent Plots, would allow a much steadier release of GP.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Precisely! Exactly the reason why rental is a much better option. Makes the changes go gradually so that they won't cause too much mayhem.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sure, Rares will always be on the rise, and there's no problem with that. Like I've said, without inflation, Rares would increase much more naturally, and at a steadier and slower pace.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

While there's nothing wrong with low inflation figures we should watch out for deflation. I think people underestimate the problems deflation brings and I think people don't realise how easily it can occur. The risk of deflation is that it could put rares in a long-term drop, which in turn could lead to a fast crash (result of speculation), followed by big rises and more crashes, etc.. Deflation would cause the rares market to act very unstable. Obviously, the only ones who usually profit from such markets are the good investors and merchants.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In the end I doubt carpentry and POH are going to play such a big role as we are discussing here. Jagex doesn't like merchants and they don't like rich players to have (huge) special options, even if they would cost a ton. I've been hearing people talk about how great carpentry and POH are going to be ever since I started this game. Jagex has been delaying the release of carpentry for years now.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

People will be expecting the best from carpentry and, I believe some mod already warned but don't quote me if I'm mistaken, it is not going to play a major role in the economy. I do think carpentry is going to be a disappointment even though I honestly hope otherwise. Ideally I would love to see a huge economy and trading concept behind carpentry and POH, however I doubt that will happen and I wouldn't be surprised at all if carpentry would end up as a farming-like skill and POH's as something practically useless.

I Like this idea, but i think they should still do personal POH's. The plots of land could be used for clan halls so anyone can visit. also, if you wanted to join a clan then you could simply talk to a npc there. This is assuming that they add a very serious clan element to the game.

I think that if they do have POH there should also be

 

 

 

POG (Player owned guilds) that would help clans alot more

 

 

 

where you can set limits on what levels can enter the guild

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(exp. lets say someone has a clan or guild for levels 10 through 15

 

 

 

if your below 10 you cant enter and if your above 15 you cant enter

 

 

 

so you dont have random morons coming in and if that doesnt work then have like passwords that only the clan knows)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

please dont tell me im a noob or some crap like that because you dont like my idea because its just that and IDEA

Anyone see that if this happened quests would become theorticly impossible, and more so the idea that it would be fair. The land would cost a few mill then with upkeep, the rich would become poor and everyone else would be left where they began.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Then you would peroticly get some meglomaniac go of buy some land and disrupt huge amounts of runescape