Returning Player

[speakoN]

Hello all,

 

Background

 

I started playing in 2006, until late 2008, but haven't played since then. I bought a membership today and am currently sitting at around 34million.

 

Stats:

Attack: 81

Strength: 73

Defence: 70

HP: 77

Ranged: 71

Prayer: 52

Magic: 75

Cooking: 55

Woodcutting: 75

Fletching: 88

Fishing: 56

Firemaking: 64

Crafting: 61

Smithing: 50

Mining: 60

Herblore: 45

Agility: 43

Thieving: 53

Slayer: 40

Farming: 40

Runecrafting: 37

 

All New Stats are 1

 

Goals

 

With so many new features I am pretty overwhelmed and have no idea where to go. But my first goal is to regain my previous wealth of 100m (I gave away 70% of my stuff to friends when I left).

Now, I have 33million odd to invest, could someone please recommend the best action to take, taking into account my stats. (Please refrain from saying merchanting, not my forte)

I've been hardened from obsessive abuse of WoW so I'm game for some mind-numbing grinds.

 

I would also like to achieve some 99's. Can I assume that fletching, cooking, fishing and woodcutting are still the easiest and most cost effective?

 

Lastly; I want to get up to speed as quickly as possible I can see there have been huge revamps to the world map! Is there any short course to getting to grips with the new features? A website, tutorials? etc.

 

Thank you for your time, if there is anything related to this matter you would like to add. I'm all eyes.

 

Thanks again.

[A_Gardener]

I took a pretty long break around the time you did, but came back a bit earlier - I was overwhelmed too!

 

To start, a great with to make money and train is slayer. There have been a few changes, such as 2 new masters, several more monsters and some pretty great drops added too. As soon as you can, do the quest 'Smoking KIlls' to unlock a Slayer Master and the points system, in which you earn points for each successive task you do without Burthorping. Different masters give different amounts of points per task, and you get a 'bonus' for every 10th and 50th task.

These points can go towards making a Slayer Helmet (black mask, earmuffs, nosepeg, facemask) which is very useful - you can add the Hexcrest and Focus Sight to it too, if you like (these items are the 'Black Mask' of Magic and Ranged, respectively - they boost accuracy and max hit when doing a task). You can also unlock the ability to make Slayer Rings, which can teleport you to various slayer-related places.

 

Although the income from slayer isn't the fastest, it builds up - I'm only 70 Slayer, and some tasks are fairly profitable. It's also fun and gets you loads of XP and charms.

 

Now, charms are used for one of the new skills - Summoning. This allows you to infuse pouches with familiars, which you can summon to help in battles or just generally in your daily RS business. First, you have to complete 'Wolf Whistle', which should only take about 10 minutes - it's similar to Druidic Ritual.

Summoning has almost revolutionised many aspects of RS (as I discovered when I started playing again!), as you can have Beasts of Burden (BOB) which carry items for you, and some of the high-level familiars are very strong in combat. I think key ones are the Spirit Terrorbird, which carries 12 items and is cheap (lvl52) and the Bunyip (lvl68), which heals 20LP every 15 seconds, and is useful for slayer tasks.

 

EDIT: Everything is now much more expensive too, but it's easier to make money - inflation FTW/FTL!

 

Oh, that's another thing - Hitpoints has been renamed Constitution, and you have LP (lifepoints) instead of HP - they're just 10 times bigger.

 

I think they're really the key things that I found when I started again - obviously, there have been countless new quests, areas, items, etc, but you just have to play around and see them as they come.

 

I hope this has helped - if you have any more questions, you can PM me if you like :)

[_Douglas]

Yes, fletching, cooking, woodcutting, and thieving are probably still the fastest/easiest. Of particular note to you would be cutting ivy, which is a very fast way to get woodcutting experience that doesn't give any logs, so it's great if you're at the computer but have things to do in another window.

 

To get caught up to speed, I'd honestly start by looking at the news archive on Runescape.com. Go back to the last update you can remember when you left, and work towards the present. If you're interested in further information on something you see there, there's articles on tip.it that can help you out.

 

As far as making money, I'm a big fan of slayer although there's always GWD if you want to monster hunt, and your production skill of choice for skilling.

[speakoN]

Thank you for your replies, especially Greekskiller.

 

From the looks of things, Slayer is the way to go! Which opens up a whole new branch of questions (Thank you for your extra information on Slaying Greekskiller - Big help)

 

From my stats, what's the best slayer set I can afford within 33million? (Note; I have full barrows + 33million cash). I hear a lot about fighter torso's, rune defenders (They came out around the time I quit). A full character sheet would be appreciated a whole lot.!

 

Thanks again!

 

Time to hit the Runescape archives!

[A_Gardener]

For Slayer (I'm assuming you'll be meleeing), I think the 'classic' whip and rune defender combo is one of the best.

You can get defenders from the Warrior's Guild, in Burthorpe (you can use a combat bracelet - enchanted dstone - to tele there). You have to first collect tokens, from the various activities there, which allow you to spend time on the top floor, which is full of Cyclopes.

 

I think I'd best let RSWiki explain the rest, as the page on defenders (http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Defender) is very good. It may take some time to get up to Rune - it took me about 200 tokens, I think (but I'm low combat and so killing the Cyclopes wasn't that quick) - but it's definitely worth it.

 

As for armour, I use Torag's, simply because it has high defence bonuses, and you can easily recoup the repair costs with a few tasks. My suggested setup would be:

 

Head: Black Mask/Slayer Helm (the only option, really)

Cape: Skill Cape/Obsidian Cape/Legends Cape (in order of best to worst)

Neck: Amulet of Fury (if you can afford one - they've skyrocketed recently)/Amulet of Glory/Salve Amulet (for undead - once you can, enchant it too by completing Tarn's Lair, a miniquest)

Body: Torag's

Legs: Torag's

Boots: Dragon

Gloves: 'Barrows' Gloves (from RFD)

Ring: Warrior/Berserker/Ring of Life

Weapon: Whip/Drag Scimitar (for strength)/Saradomin Sword (a great alternative - speed of whip, and can train strength - expensive though)

Shield: Rune Defender

 

The Fighter Torso is talked about a lot due to it's strength bonus, although it takes a few hours of a minigame (oops, activity - they've changed the name :P) to get. I could personally never be bothered, as it seems like a waste of time to me.

 

I suggest you get your Summoning up as soon as possible - you'll get a headstart after finishing Wolf Whistle, but read Tip.It's guide (http://www.tip.it/runescape/?page=summoning_guide.htm) to find out more. In general, crimson charms are the best for levelling, with blues as a source of 'extra' XP or especially good familiars.

 

The levels to aim for are 40 for a Bull Ant (Beast of Burden), 52 for a Spirit Terrorbird (again, beast of burden) and 68 for a Bunyip (heals you) - after that, you have the Titans (heal and are pretty good fighters), Unicorn Stallions (heal you by 15% of your max LP) and the Pack Yak - carries 30 items (!) and can bank items for you.

 

I suggest you try your hand at a few quests, too. I don't know how many you've done, but they're a nice break from slayer/skilling and provide pretty good XP rewards sometimes.

 

Oh, and remember to use Super Attack/Strength potions while slaying, too - speeds up tasks considerably :P

[speakoN]

For Slayer (I'm assuming you'll be meleeing), I think the 'classic' whip and rune defender combo is one of the best.

You can get defenders from the Warrior's Guild, in Burthorpe (you can use a combat bracelet - enchanted dstone - to tele there). You have to first collect tokens, from the various activities there, which allow you to spend time on the top floor, which is full of Cyclopes.

 

I think I'd best let RSWiki explain the rest, as the page on defenders (http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Defender) is very good. It may take some time to get up to Rune - it took me about 200 tokens, I think (but I'm low combat and so killing the Cyclopes wasn't that quick) - but it's definitely worth it.

 

As for armour, I use Torag's, simply because it has high defence bonuses, and you can easily recoup the repair costs with a few tasks. My suggested setup would be:

 

Head: Black Mask/Slayer Helm (the only option, really)

Cape: Skill Cape/Obsidian Cape/Legends Cape (in order of best to worst)

Neck: Amulet of Fury (if you can afford one - they've skyrocketed recently)/Amulet of Glory/Salve Amulet (for undead - once you can, enchant it too by completing Tarn's Lair, a miniquest)

Body: Torag's

Legs: Torag's

Boots: Dragon

Gloves: 'Barrows' Gloves (from RFD)

Ring: Warrior/Berserker/Ring of Life

Weapon: Whip/Drag Scimitar (for strength)/Saradomin Sword (a great alternative - speed of whip, and can train strength - expensive though)

Shield: Rune Defender

 

The Fighter Torso is talked about a lot due to it's strength bonus, although it takes a few hours of a minigame (oops, activity - they've changed the name :P) to get. I could personally never be bothered, as it seems like a waste of time to me.

 

I suggest you get your Summoning up as soon as possible - you'll get a headstart after finishing Wolf Whistle, but read Tip.It's guide (http://www.tip.it/runescape/?page=summoning_guide.htm) to find out more. In general, crimson charms are the best for levelling, with blues as a source of 'extra' XP or especially good familiars.

 

The levels to aim for are 40 for a Bull Ant (Beast of Burden), 52 for a Spirit Terrorbird (again, beast of burden) and 68 for a Bunyip (heals you) - after that, you have the Titans (heal and are pretty good fighters), Unicorn Stallions (heal you by 15% of your max LP) and the Pack Yak - carries 30 items (!) and can bank items for you.

 

I suggest you try your hand at a few quests, too. I don't know how many you've done, but they're a nice break from slayer/skilling and provide pretty good XP rewards sometimes.

 

Oh, and remember to use Super Attack/Strength potions while slaying, too - speeds up tasks considerably :P

 

Thank you very much! Cleared up all my questions and ones I had accumulating in my head as I read along :P

 

Looks like I'll be leaving the Fighter Torso for those rainy days. Just on a side note of the mention of the Dragon Scimitar, is this the best weapon to train strength on? I know you mention a Saradomin sword but that'll probably be out of my price range.

 

Can't wait to get my hands on Summoning, sounds incredibly beneficial! The first quest I'll be doing is Legends! It was my main priority before I quit :D

[swordfight]

 

Looks like I'll be leaving the Fighter Torso for those rainy days. Just on a side note of the mention of the Dragon Scimitar, is this the best weapon to train strength on? I know you mention a Saradomin sword but that'll probably be out of my price range.

 

Can't wait to get my hands on Summoning, sounds incredibly beneficial! The first quest I'll be doing is Legends! It was my main priority before I quit :D

 

The Sara sword is equal to the whip when it comes to training strength but it is a 2h weapon. Its ~9m atm. If you cant afford it I would just stick with the Dragon Scimmy.

[geesch]

 

Looks like I'll be leaving the Fighter Torso for those rainy days. Just on a side note of the mention of the Dragon Scimitar, is this the best weapon to train strength on? I know you mention a Saradomin sword but that'll probably be out of my price range.

 

Can't wait to get my hands on Summoning, sounds incredibly beneficial! The first quest I'll be doing is Legends! It was my main priority before I quit :D

 

The Sara sword is equal to the whip when it comes to training strength but it is a 2h weapon. Its ~9m atm. If you cant afford it I would just stick with the Dragon Scimmy.

 

Dont use a d scim honestly. If you want to be a serious slayer (and by that i mean smart), use this setup:

 

(Full) Slayer Helm/Black mask

Fury

Dharok/Torag/Guth Top (same def - comes to preference)

Verac Skirt (prayer bonus and equal def)

Dragon Boots

Barrows Gloves

Whip

Rune Defender

Soul Wars/Fire Cape

Zerker Ring

 

Use your whip on controlled. That will negate the need for a SS (the only other viable way to train str). I see no purpose in training only str, or only attack (unless you are a pure, of course). This setup is cheap, effective, and looks pretty decent imo. A fighter torso could be replaced with the barrows top on weak monsters (generally before using kuradal). Replace top with prossy if you plan on pietying. If you want to protect pray, replace top and bottom with prossy. This setup will cover 90% of slayer tasks effectively. There are a few other tasks, such as waterfiends/dragons that require special gear. Waterfiends need karils and a ZS/SS on crush mode. Dragons require an antidragon shield or DFS (not worth the cash imo). Other than that, you should be set.

 

Having said all that, I wouldnt slay for money lol. When i need cash, i rc. Rcing makes me 1m an hour consistently. I do not rely on lucky drops for my cash, simply because you cannot rely on luck. Train your skills and you will be back to 100m in no time :)

[speakoN]

Thank you very much Geesch!

 

Going to go with your suggestion, adapting to gold restrictions (i.e fury for glory)

 

I will be using the whip on controlled as you advised.

 

Sadly I have 37 Runecrafting not allowing me to make anywhere close to 1million an hour :D, and neither can any of my other skills make a better effort.

 

I think I will train combat for a while, get into the swings of things again as I can't learn much running Fish Spot > Bank > Fish Spot > Bank : ).

 

If there's anything else you'd like to add, feel free!

[A_Gardener]

I only suggested D Scim because it's an old standby, plus I don't like using controlled. :P

 

If you haven't already, do Throne of Miscellania and Royal Troubles - then invest money in Manage Thy Kingdom (MTK). The most profitable things to do are 10 on herbs, 5 on maples I think - this is about 200k profit everyday for you doing nothing but collecting and topping up your popularity once every week/ two weeks.

 

Farming herbs is also brilliant money - there is a spreadsheet somewhere in the Archive of Wisdom on which herbs are most profitable, so it's worth incorporating a few runs during your daily routine - it breaks up the monotony, it's fast and good cash. You'll also pick up a few farming levels on the way.

 

Once you have accumulated charms from combat, you can use this handy tool (http://users.telenet.be/glodenox/Charms/CharmPattern.html) which will map out the most efficient way to use all your charms, and what level you will be after having used them all. Generally, crimsons are the most used for training, as they give moderate XP and are not expensive.

 

Due to inflation and 76king (a method of making fast money by using an old PVP world reward system), most things are more expensive. There are also some 'moneysinks', such as Construction and Summoning, which will eat up your money pretty quickly. Summoning is definitely worth it though.

 

Add me if you have any more questions - I'm not on regularly though :P My RSN is 'Tricunx'.

 

(Oh yeah - you can change your display name too!)

[speakoN]

:) Brilliant!

 

Thank you very much for all your useful information, definitely going to make life easier when I finally get my computer back (All praise iPhone's with 3G access :P)

 

There's so much to do I had to compile a list :P Really though, thanks a lot! Can't wait!

 

See you in-game!

[gorofujita]

Biggest moneymakers (with consistant income) are either hunter with chins/pawa/grenwal or runecrafting (which as I'm sure you remember is incredibly slow to train) that said, although you generally make money while leveling both skills, i think runecrafting may be a better goal, only because the holy grail of skilling income is the 91 rc, which as far as I'm aware is still the top skilling income (combat excluded)

[geesch]

Biggest moneymakers (with consistant income) are either hunter with chins/pawa/grenwal or runecrafting (which as I'm sure you remember is incredibly slow to train) that said, although you generally make money while leveling both skills, i think runecrafting may be a better goal, only because the holy grail of skilling income is the 91 rc, which as far as I'm aware is still the top skilling income (combat excluded)

The only thing that can compete with 91 rc, as far as i know, is hunting grenwalls. The difference is, grenwalls are a pain to hunt. Its extremely click intensive, whereas rc is nice and relaxed. Both make about 1m an hour. I personally hate hunter. Its among my lowest stats for that reason.

 

I would suggest doing some combat so that you can get summoning up. Do that until you are 57. At level 57, summoning opens up many doors for you. The largest one is graahk rcing. Once you can do this, youll make 400k an hour and some nice rc exp. Dont be discouraged by how long it takes to lvl rc - just keep going. It may take some time, but once you get 91, believe me, its rewarding. A buddy of mine has 15m and is pretty proud of that. Its nice, but thats what i made just yesterday :P A good thing to work towards is keeping your skills even. If i dont have a particular goal, i like to work my lowest skills up 5 levels at a time. If you keep doing this, your total will rise and you can brag about having a high, lowest skill level (i dont count dung as a skill btw...) Questing is another great thing to do. Working for quest requirements, then completing quests will give you access to anything in the game. If you have any questions, feel free to message me in game. My chat is always on :)

[gorofujita]

One thing I forgot to mention, as did everyone else i think, is that runecrafting had an update so that now the close you are to the lvl of a double craft, the higher percent chance you have of making 2 of the runes. (it only becomes 100% at the lvl obviously) This is why im still doing natures, because at my lvl i get on average about 73 runes per full inventory with pouches, so out of 49 runes per trip, im getting 73ish natures back. So feel free to keep on doing natures and it will be an increasing profit as you lvl, as opposed to how it used to be with 49 natures back until you were lvl 91.

[speakoN]

One thing I forgot to mention, as did everyone else i think, is that runecrafting had an update so that now the close you are to the lvl of a double craft, the higher percent chance you have of making 2 of the runes. (it only becomes 100% at the lvl obviously) This is why im still doing natures, because at my lvl i get on average about 73 runes per full inventory with pouches, so out of 49 runes per trip, im getting 73ish natures back. So feel free to keep on doing natures and it will be an increasing profit as you lvl, as opposed to how it used to be with 49 natures back until you were lvl 91.

 

Hey, thanks a lot! It's these types of things that are going to catch me out. Think I am going to give my old method of:

 

Cutting 2k Yews, Fletching, Stringing them myself.

 

Then purchasing the nature runes (but now I could potentially craft these myself for the top profit).

 

Speaking of which, do Yew Long's (S) Still High Alch for 765gp or so? That'll get me into a familiar situation and a steady income to help aid the payment of all this gear! Not to mention that little boost on the way to some 99's.

 

Thanks again!

[gorofujita]

i would direct you to tip.it's high alch calculater (under the special calcs link on the home page) here is the link for you

http://www.tip.it/runescape/?page=high_alch_calc.htm

 

strung yews high alch for 768

[geesch]

I wouldnt spend the time cutting yews. It will take a very long time to do for minimal profit (when considered as a per hour value). You would be best off rcing, collecting blue dragon scales, killing druids for herbs, picking mort myre fungus, killing green drags, etc. All of these are pretty good ways of making a quick buck. If you want wc exp, go for ivy. If you want fletching exp, buy the materials, fletch them, then sell off the product. If you want mage exp, superheat iron (100k exp an hour for minimal cost). If you want cash, do whatever you can do to make the most per hour. Its time for people to start thinking efficiency rather than the end result. If you want a further explanation on efficiency, let me know. Ill work through an example with you :)

[gorofujita]

Oh yea, not sure if you experienced this before you left but dragon bones have exploded in price over the past years, so killing dragons of all sorts (greens being the easiest) is a great money maker, because the hides are highly sought after for crafting xp, and bones for pray xp.