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Slayer Helmet or Guthans at Fight Caves?

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I have Jad for a slayer task, and at my stats I wasn't sure whether I should just range the whole time using the slayer helmet or use guthans/range instead. Any advice would be appreciated. Stats in signature.

 

 

EDIT: Also, is karils crossbow or rune cbow with broad bolts better? Cost is no object.

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If you safe-spot and are good, you shouldn't need guthans at all. Try to borrow a SGS and range the whole caves. There is an awesome AoW guide on how to do it. That leaves you open to using the helm.

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It's a lot easier then that for an idiot to sound smart on the internet.

 

That's exactly what you're doing right now... just saying.

 

Broad bolts with a rune xbow would be better.

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FSH no doubt. Using ee for healing, you may need no brews to get to Jad.

 

Setup: arma plate, verac skirt, fsh, fury, ranger boots, archer (i), barrows gloves, sw cape, crossbow (unholy book/ bss if not using karil's/crystal bow (bss being mainly for tanking healers should you have to)). Broads or bolt racks on everything but Jad, use diamonds on him. Personally, I prefer a crystal bow to a crossbow for the waves. It will be around 4/10 or maybe even 5/10 when you get to Jad, where you switch to diamonds. I got to Jad at 3/10 charge, off-task and at 79 range.

 

When you use crystal, you got 25 spaces (3 filled with ee, unholy book & rune crossbow). When using rune c'bow, you have 26 spaces (diamonds and ee in inv). When using karil's c'bow, you have 24 slots (diamonds, ee, unholy book and c'bow in inv). You need maybe 10 pray pots normally, so you could consider bringing around 15 and hawkeyeing it all. Bring rocktails rather than brews, as they're much less of a hassle to eat and your ee will provide the def boost. 3 range pots for speed, with rocktails you won't have to brew your boosted level down again.

 

Think I got it all there... good luck!

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Thanks for the great detail Quyneax. I tried it yesterday using karils c'bow and guthans (before I saw your post), made it to Jad with all 5 of my sara brews, 9 prayer pots, and 1.5 ranging pots. Turns out I need to work on my prayer switching. I think this time I'm going to skip the guthans and throw some rocktails in there instead like you said, plus bring a rune c'bow with diamond bolts to take down Jad faster before I mess up my prayers again.

 

Will verac's skirt have enough of a defense boost that it warrants sacrificing all the range accuracy that could be gained from using chaps?

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That depends on your luring skills, I suppose. The stats for some combinations:

 

  • Armadyl skirt+ bss: +20 range atk, +85 range def, +4 prayer
  • Verac's skirt + unholy book: +1/+84/+9
  • Armadyl skirt +book: +28/+40/+6
  • Verac's skirt + bss: -7/+136/+7
  • Armadyl skirt + dfs: +15/+105/+1
  • Verac's skirt + dfs: -12/+156/+4

Assuming magic and melee offense and defense are all but useless.

 

It should be noted that all fight cave monsters have low defense and high offense. It seems that Arma skirt + a good shield is best if you find you have quite enough prayer, such as the 9 prayer pots you had left.

 

A normal spirit shield loses +2 prayer and +7 ranged defence. Karil's instead of Armadyl loses +1 prayer and +3 range atk. Black hide instead of Armadyl loses +2 range defence, +3 range offense and +1 prayer.

 

Hope that answers the question, and good luck again!

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