Shangdi Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Recently I got a TzHaar task and I decided I wanted a fire cape so I changed it to that. I've already done fight caves several times, but I've never succeeded. I wanna know if I can make my setup better or anything. My setup: I am on curses. The highest level curse I can use is deflect melee. Stats: 73 Prayer87 Range85 Attack, Str, and Def88 HP96 Mage, if that's relevant I have a budget of approximately 9M. [hide=A funny conversation]Me:Have u wondered how my brassard, which leaves my chest bare, give about the same def as ur pile of rocks?Friend:HahahaFriend:Maybe you are just good at blocking with your shoulder?Me:Ahahahahaha[/hide]Rare drops: 4 D legs, 1 D skirtBarrows items: 2 Verac's helms, 1 Dhorak's Greataxe, 1 Dhorak's platelegs, 2 Karil's leathertops, 1 Karil's crossbow, 1 Guthan's chainskirt Quest cape achieved 28 Dec, 2009, lost with Nomad's Requiem, re-obtained on 19 Mar 2010. Fire cape achieved 1 Nov 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Ditch guthans and the mace, bring EE. Diamonds for the whole thing are serious overkill but not forbidden (just costly). Use Verac's skirt (you can bring chaps in inventory) and maybe bring some prayer potions instead of restores (to save on costs). Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiel Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 ditch the guthans, if you want to spend a ton, use kxbow, its faster then diamonds. DK drops (solo/LS): 66 hatchets, 14 archer rings, 13 berserker rings, 17 warrior rings, 12 seerculls, 13 mud staves, 7 seers ringsQBD drops: 1 kite, 2 visages, 4 dragonbone kits, 3 effigies, lots of crossbow partsCR vs. CLS threads always turn into discussions about penis size....It's not called a Compensation Longsword for nothing.I've sent a 12k combat mission to have Aiel assassinated (poor bastard isn't even Pincers-tier difficulty). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shangdi Posted August 12, 2010 Author Share Posted August 12, 2010 Diamonds for the whole thing are serious overkill but not forbidden (just costly). There's no kill like overkill. :D Hmm you sure about ditching the guthans and EE? I suck at managing hp XD And if taking both verac skirt and chaps when should I use chaps? (Don't really care about spending a few more 100k :P) [hide=A funny conversation]Me:Have u wondered how my brassard, which leaves my chest bare, give about the same def as ur pile of rocks?Friend:HahahaFriend:Maybe you are just good at blocking with your shoulder?Me:Ahahahahaha[/hide]Rare drops: 4 D legs, 1 D skirtBarrows items: 2 Verac's helms, 1 Dhorak's Greataxe, 1 Dhorak's platelegs, 2 Karil's leathertops, 1 Karil's crossbow, 1 Guthan's chainskirt Quest cape achieved 28 Dec, 2009, lost with Nomad's Requiem, re-obtained on 19 Mar 2010. Fire cape achieved 1 Nov 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacoste Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 The guthan method is really outdated, you would be better of ranging the whole way. Personally, I brought my ee, and i dont think you need to bring both verac skirt and chaps, just the skirt will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrNash Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Just skirt is fine. With Slayer helm/focus sight, you will be killing stuff pretty fast too, even with a not-so-great ranged level. EE is AWESOME for it. If you are getting low hp, you can always trap stuff, find a spot you can't be attacked, rest and wait for special bar to recover. This gives you a break, recovers 200hp per spec, and saves you praying while using guthans. Obviously adds a bit of time to the trip if you over-use it though. Definately keep on curses, they are AMAZING in caves. When you are on the later 360 waves, the 360's will be half dead by the time you even get around to hitting them, just through deflect magic! And obviously its going to deflect alot back on jad too, speeding it up and thus reducing the chance of you messing up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 The reason I suggested bringing chaps is that Verac's skirt is really only for tanking the 90's and a little prayer bonus. It's not like you need the inventory space. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacoste Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 The reason I suggested bringing chaps is that Verac's skirt is really only for tanking the 90's and a little prayer bonus. It's not like you need the inventory space.If he plans to tank the healers, veracs would be better, and i cant see any instance where bringing both would be beneficial. I would prefer to have another brew or something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 You don't actually need brews for the caves.. they are for safety alone. EE will be quite enough with ~2 brews or so. Then 2 super restores, 10 pray pots and the rest gear switches, spec restores (if you bring claws), stuff like that. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shangdi Posted August 12, 2010 Author Share Posted August 12, 2010 Hmm so this is what I have so far: Get rid of guthansReplace mace with EEVerac skirt instead of chaps Should I take rune cbow with diamonds or karil xbow? and if I take karil xbow should I replace ava's accumulator with SW cape for def and prayer? And I should fill the extra spaces from not using guthans with prayer pots/super restores, right? (sorry if i seem nooby i don't wanna mess up like i did the last...5 times.) [hide=A funny conversation]Me:Have u wondered how my brassard, which leaves my chest bare, give about the same def as ur pile of rocks?Friend:HahahaFriend:Maybe you are just good at blocking with your shoulder?Me:Ahahahahaha[/hide]Rare drops: 4 D legs, 1 D skirtBarrows items: 2 Verac's helms, 1 Dhorak's Greataxe, 1 Dhorak's platelegs, 2 Karil's leathertops, 1 Karil's crossbow, 1 Guthan's chainskirt Quest cape achieved 28 Dec, 2009, lost with Nomad's Requiem, re-obtained on 19 Mar 2010. Fire cape achieved 1 Nov 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibberEsh Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 I'm definitely not a fire cape expert (took me 6 tries) but yeah, replace your super restores with prayer pots and only bring like 5? super restores. Not sure about the xbow thing, I'd just be cheap and go for rune xbow. Getting through the waves shouldn't be a problem, just a bit time consuming. Just remember not to panic at Jad and you should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Hmm so this is what I have so far: Get rid of guthansReplace mace with EEVerac skirt instead of chaps Should I take rune cbow with diamonds or karil xbow? and if I take karil xbow should I replace ava's accumulator with SW cape for def and prayer? And I should fill the extra spaces from not using guthans with prayer pots/super restores, right? (sorry if i seem nooby i don't wanna mess up like i did the last...5 times.)SW cape with kxbow, sure. You should still bring rcbow for Jad with about 100-200 diamonds. I think you'll need some 3.5k bolt racks. Fill up your inventory with bss (to tank healers) + rcbow + diamonds + EE + 3 range pots + 12 pray pots + rest rocktails. Use EE as much as you can. As it provides a defence boost, it'll replace brews entirely. Rocktails are much easier, cheaper and better with range potions. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shangdi Posted August 12, 2010 Author Share Posted August 12, 2010 Alright chums, let's do this! LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOY JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINS! [hide=A funny conversation]Me:Have u wondered how my brassard, which leaves my chest bare, give about the same def as ur pile of rocks?Friend:HahahaFriend:Maybe you are just good at blocking with your shoulder?Me:Ahahahahaha[/hide]Rare drops: 4 D legs, 1 D skirtBarrows items: 2 Verac's helms, 1 Dhorak's Greataxe, 1 Dhorak's platelegs, 2 Karil's leathertops, 1 Karil's crossbow, 1 Guthan's chainskirt Quest cape achieved 28 Dec, 2009, lost with Nomad's Requiem, re-obtained on 19 Mar 2010. Fire cape achieved 1 Nov 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisky_is_Goo Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Let us know how it goes and if you would make any changes for the rest of us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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