i think neitiznot > fighter hat and fire cape > ardougne cape

I will test Verac and Zamorakian spear for 30 minutes. Since alot of ya on here keep saying ZS is ALOT or UNDOUBTLY better than Veracs. And if you can't provide a DPS or some proof to convince me, then why post at all? Majority has made a VERY short post saying "spear" and that's all. Is it a big surprise if i ignore your comments when ya reply so short?

 

This is "HELP AND ADVICE". I came here to get good comments about why Zamorakian spear is better or Verac's is better. Not to read "Z spaer is best....". And also i like to discuss in my threads, so if you can't deal with that then [bleep] off.

 

 

I will test them out. So for now shut up and stop posting if you don't have anything good to say.

 

I can't say Verac's set is better than Zamorakian spear, but i feel PRETTY SURE, that you can't say that Zamorakian spear is ALOT or UNDOUBTLY better than Verac's set. If Verac's set is better or worse, i will find out soon after i get 92 Construction.

The majority of posts have been short because it's common sense that the fast, stabbing weapon is best against dragons (which are weak to stab). The ZS has a higher stab bonus than the flail has crush bonus, and MUCH higher than the flail's stab bonus. It also has higher strength. Couple that with the fact that you can get even more accuracy and strength from your helmet, platebody, and platelegs, and the fact that mithril dragons' defense isn't THAT high, the ZS comes out on top. Look at that, I didn't even need a DPS calculator!

 

With extremes and turmoil, you are going to hit far more often with the ZS than you are the flail. Ignoring defense doesn't matter when the defense is negligible.

The majority of posts have been short because it's common sense that the fast, stabbing weapon is best against dragons (which are weak to stab). The ZS has a higher stab bonus than the flail has crush bonus, and MUCH higher than the flail's stab bonus. It also has higher strength. Couple that with the fact that you can get even more accuracy and strength from your helmet, platebody, and platelegs, and the fact that mithril dragons' defense isn't THAT high, the ZS comes out on top. Look at that, I didn't even need a DPS calculator!

 

With extremes and turmoil, you are going to hit far more often with the ZS than you are the flail. Ignoring defense doesn't matter when the defense is negligible.

It was also common sense that Abyssal whip was no good at Bandos, until certain players proved otherwise using a Rune defender. If you find my skeptism to be to much, don't bother going into detail.

 

By the way here is your medal for not needing a DPS calculator:

Medal of spam post, reference to your "LOL" that got deleted by a moderator.

The majority of posts have been short because it's common sense that the fast, stabbing weapon is best against dragons (which are weak to stab). The ZS has a higher stab bonus than the flail has crush bonus, and MUCH higher than the flail's stab bonus. It also has higher strength. Couple that with the fact that you can get even more accuracy and strength from your helmet, platebody, and platelegs, and the fact that mithril dragons' defense isn't THAT high, the ZS comes out on top. Look at that, I didn't even need a DPS calculator!

 

With extremes and turmoil, you are going to hit far more often with the ZS than you are the flail. Ignoring defense doesn't matter when the defense is negligible.

It was also common sense that Abyssal whip was no good at Bandos, until certain players prover otherwise using a Rune defender. If you find my skeptism to be to much, don't bother going into detail

 

It's the same concept here: the faster weapon wins. Not only that, the faster weapon has higher strength and accuracy. You can't refute that.

 

It's the same concept here: the faster weapon wins. Not only that, the faster weapon has higher strength and accuracy. You can't refute that.

I can actually hit 43 max with Verac's set, which is 1 or 2 less damage than Zamorakian spear, so damage really counts nothing as both hits near as high. But i have recorded Verac's set. Soon i will record Zamorakian spear too.

 

But i am leaning more towards Zamorakian spear than Verac's set. But i find it stupid that people say "Undoubtly" or "Alot better" or "Alot faster", when Verac's set is actually as good.

 

It's the same concept here: the faster weapon wins. Not only that, the faster weapon has higher strength and accuracy. You can't refute that.

I can actually hit 43 max with Verac's set, which is 1 or 2 less damage than Zamorakian spear, so damage really counts nothing as both hits near as high. But i have recorded Verac's set. Soon i will record Zamorakian spear too.

 

Wrong. Using Bandos and a neit helm, your strength bonus is much higher than Verac's (and that's assuming fire cape with Verac's and ardougne cape with ZS).

 

EDIT: The ZS will out-perform Verac's by a significant amount, hence why I use words like 'undoubtedly'.

Wrong. Using Bandos and a neit helm, your strength bonus is much higher than Verac's (and that's assuming fire cape with Verac's and ardougne cape with ZS).

 

EDIT: The ZS will out-perform Verac's by a significant amount, hence why I use words like 'undoubtedly'.

I have said earlier i like to discuss in my topics, and people bash me for that. Anyhow i agree that Zamorakian spear probably is the best one, but i don't got Bandos.

You're not discussing anything, though. You're just disagreeing without any real reason. It's almost trolling. ZS' strength is still higher, even without Bandos. Between two weapons of equal strength and accuracy, the faster weapon always wins. In this case, the faster weapon has higher strength, accuracy, and the monster is weak against its most accurate attack style.

 

I don't see how Verac's could possibly come close.

You're not discussing anything, though. You're just disagreeing without any real reason. It's almost trolling. ZS' strength is still higher, even without Bandos. Between two weapons of equal strength and accuracy, the faster weapon always wins. In this case, the faster weapon has higher strength, accuracy, and the monster is weak against its most accurate attack style.

 

I don't see Verac's could possibly come close.

That's because it doesn't come close, OP is just a troll. My reference: Any H&A topic he's started.

I am actually not on task. So you should stop assuming it lol. And i think Verac'sset>Zamorakian spear off task. I got that impression.

 

You should be more clear in what you state then; the people who answer your questions are not mind readers.

 

The spear is superior to Veracs. Very little is verac actually still good for, save Zilyana, KQ, and a few other things. The only reason why you would use the full set is if you were seeking the bonus, and there is no benefit from its bonus here. The zspear allows you versatility, bonuses, and speed.

You should be more clear in what you state then; the people who answer your questions are not mind readers.

 

The spear is superior to Veracs. Very little is verac actually still good for, save Zilyana, KQ, and a few other things. The only reason why you would use the full set is if you were seeking the bonus, and there is no benefit from its bonus here. The zspear allows you versatility, bonuses, and speed.

I don't mean to pick a fight, but i didn't tell them if i was on task or not, and your right, i will try to remember to be more clear next time. But...despite not being mindreaders they assumed i was on task, and i think it's just fair to assume A and B if your gonna assume one of them.

 

Just saying

To those who didn't flame me:

I am sorry for being so stubborn. Zamorakian spear was the best. Verac's is pretty ok too, but Zamorakian spear beats it enough to make it the winner.

You should be more clear in what you state then; the people who answer your questions are not mind readers.

 

The spear is superior to Veracs. Very little is verac actually still good for, save Zilyana, KQ, and a few other things. The only reason why you would use the full set is if you were seeking the bonus, and there is no benefit from its bonus here. The zspear allows you versatility, bonuses, and speed.

I don't mean to pick a fight, but i didn't tell them if i was on task or not, and your right, i will try to remember to be more clear next time. But...despite not being mindreaders they assumed i was on task, and i think it's just fair to assume A and B if your gonna assume one of them.

 

Just saying

 

Like Kim said, it's not up to the readers to read your mind. You have to be clear and give details. By your logic, I should just assume that you're using anything from bronze to Bandos armor, and give advice accordingly. When people aren't specific about what they have and want, they usually get answers that they don't like. It's YOUR job to assume that your reader has no idea what you're doing, and post accordingly.

Like Kim said, it's not up to the readers to read your mind. You have to be clear and give details. By your logic, I should just assume that you're using anything from bronze to Bandos armor, and give advice accordingly. When people aren't specific about what they have and want, they usually get answers that they don't like. It's YOUR job to assume that your reader has no idea what you're doing, and post accordingly.

Well the assuming goes only for on task or not. So i would say my logic is correct one because it only asks you to assume on task and off task, not to assume armor, weapon etc...

 

But like i said, i will try to be spesific.