So I'm thoroughly enjoying Td'ing of late.

 

My current setup is void + defender + rcbow + cls. I am really happy with how cls performs here, and I would like to continue using the defender to aid with darklight, unless you feel there is a strong reason not to. My firemaking is low, plus i'd rather use a one handed range weapon to avoid re-equipping defender and having to keep a spot free all the time, so I'd rather keep using a crossbow as opposed to a handcannon/karils.

 

Onto the main question. Rigour is obviously 5% damage and accuracy increase over eagle eye. CCBow is +30 range bonus. Which should I get first? Because Rigour affects not only my rune crossbow but also but overloaded range stat, does the extra damage compensate for the slight decrease in accuracy? I alrready find I perform better with Runite bolts than Diamond ones, as getting that 300+ hit seems to take a lot less attempts on average. Also, rigour would mean not risking a chaotic. I'm not 95 prayer so I wouldnt use curses anyway, and even if I was I think I wouldnt be for td's. Melee hits well enough without turmoil and I don't mind swapping prayer against their attacks instead of soulsplitting the melee. Seems to me that curses are just the lazy way out for TDs.

 

So, Rigour (5% accuracy and damage) or CCbow (+30 range bonus).

 

Thanks

I'd go for the bow first. Really, you shouldn't be worried about dying there. Bring a ring of life if your worried, but it should be really easy to get back to TDs after you die. 15 minute grave ftw.

 

Be prepared to be flamed for C Long instead of rapier >.<

Rigour

 

Not only does it increase your hits with range and your accuracy, it also increases you defense when ranging. One less chaotic risk is nice as well.

If you had turmoil, I'd say Chaotic c bow.

I'd go for the bow first. Really, you shouldn't be worried about dying there. Bring a ring of life if your worried, but it should be really easy to get back to TDs after you die. 15 minute grave ftw.

 

Be prepared to be flamed for C Long instead of rapier >.<

 

 

Haha, trust me, I'm not worried about getting back to TD's. It's more that if I disconnect then I won't be able to regardless. And thats always likely with my internet.

 

And as I don't slay and only hunt bosses, I'm really happy with my CLS. People can tell me rapier is better, and I can accept that, but CLS works for me (plus it doesnt look like a wand).

I prefer using rigour at any boss than using my ccbow due to ccbow's extremely low protect value. Rigour would be best if you are prone to dcing.

rigour for sure since you don't have steel titan

 

karils xbow and hand cannon are both better than ccb anyhow

rigour for sure since you don't have steel titan

 

karils xbow and hand cannon are both better than ccb anyhow

 

Karils is less accurate and half the range strength. Plus you have extra equipping to do and need a free slot. What makes it better?

it shoots 50% faster. it gets you more kills per hour

it shoots 50% faster. it gets you more kills per hour

 

When using it would you still use a defender?

yes, even if you are using maul or godsword you should bring defender for darklight

You could if you wanted to re-equip defender.

 

Also, assuming both of you are correct about the X-Bow, that it has 50% the range str, less of a range bonus, and 50% more speed...wouldn't that still make the rune c bow better? For every 2 attacks with r c bow, we get 3 with the x bow. But if the damage on the fast weapon is cut in half, wouldn't that result in the DPS of the X-Bow being 75% of the DPS of the R C bow? Ignoring accuracy here, but the R C bow trumps with accuracy as well...

 

This is assuming that the X-Bow has 50% of the ranged strength and 50% more speed then the R C bow.

You could if you wanted to re-equip defender.

 

Also, assuming both of you are correct about the X-Bow, that it has 50% the range str, less of a range bonus, and 50% more speed...wouldn't that still make the rune c bow better? For every 2 attacks with r c bow, we get 3 with the x bow. But if the damage on the fast weapon is cut in half, wouldn't that result in the DPS of the X-Bow being 75% of the DPS of the R C bow? Ignoring accuracy here, but the R C bow trumps with accuracy as well...

 

This is assuming that the X-Bow has 50% of the ranged strength and 50% more speed then the R C bow.

 

Only half the strength in terms of the Bow's strength bonus, not counting range levels.

bolt racks have 55 ranged strength, vs. 100/105/115 ranged strength on broad/diamond/runite

 

however, max hit with ranged is not directly proportional to ranged strength

 

max hit with bolt racks - 351

max hit with broad bolts - 481

max hit with diamond bolts - 496

max hit with runite bolts - 525

 

so karil's hits 1.5x more often and hits 0.67-0.73x as much

 

also, even misses help move the prayer to range, which helps you melee more often (which has better damage output than ranged).