Dungeoneering Kinship ring types.

[Sy_Accursed]

I have the basic Berserker ring for most of them time.

But I'm now getting to the point where I'm considering putting tokens into a secondary ring class for quick switch.

 

I figure tank and tactician are useless since I use 2h so u nvr use a shield or accurate.

I figure the 3 mage rings largely useless as most of the higher end bosses are best to melee or range and surge spells are more than enough on their own really to deal with the odd rammernaut etc.

In ranged I figure sniper and keen-eye are useless as generally you use rapid stance.

In skill i figure medic is useless as I don't do teams all tht much

 

So for the rings I do think might be good.

I see desperado being good (increased range lvl when in rapid)

But I am leaning more towards the skill rings for my secondary atm.

Obviously gatherer and artisan both reduce damage from skill tasks; very useful quick-switch when you hit skill rooms etc I figure.

But then I dunno which works out better gatherer for extra resources when gathering OR artisan for saving resources when producing.

I'm inclined to say gatherer since (especially in solo) even if you gather alot of materials you are likely to sell/alch them rather than produce them?

 

What would you guys advise?

Oh and obv feel free to correct me entirely on any rings I ruled out.

[Obtaurian]

Do you have a surgebox? If you do, blazer is better at lower tiers and blitzer is better at t10. You don't need to range at all unless you have a hexhunter. Gatherer is good for keying (though I know plenty of keyers who just stay on berserker).

 

So basically, the only rings you should worry about are berzerker, blazer, and gatherer.

[green9090]

At least get t4 or so blazer for the odd times you mage. It's extremely cheap, token-wise, and improves damage signficantly. It's also good for glitch KOing stomp and luminescent icefiend in C1s- if it triggers right (happens a lot when 5 people are using it), it'll KO the last form and you don't have to wait through another phase.

 

Gatherer is best for keying and good for farming herbs and mining ore for bloodragers. Berserker is, as you rightly identified, best for melee DPS, and desperado is similarly best for ranged. If you ever range, get desperado to at least t4 like blazer.

[Sy_Accursed]

Nope no Surge box I currently have a prom 2h and a gorg pl8 bound (waiting on getting a SSH drop to swap out pl8) and 125 gorg arrows.

 

I always keep ranged ammo bound cause its waaaayyy easier to set up mage on the fly, I mean I know I need a couple more rc lvls to do it really well (with bloods). Afterall you can grab a few hundred ess for a few thousands gp and quickly make up like 200 casts.

Is this wrong?

 

And are ya saying the higher end bosses can be maged? All the tactics I ever saw for em advise ranging or meleeing pretty much all the occult and warped bosses.

[Obtaurian]

Nope no Surge box I currently have a prom 2h and a gorg pl8 bound (waiting on getting a SSH drop to swap out pl8) and 125 gorg arrows.

 

I always keep ranged ammo bound cause its waaaayyy easier to set up mage on the fly, I mean I know I need a couple more rc lvls to do it really well (with bloods). Afterall you can grab a few hundred ess for a few thousands gp and quickly make up like 200 casts.

Is this wrong?

 

And are ya saying the higher end bosses can be maged? All the tactics I ever saw for em advise ranging or meleeing pretty much all the occult and warped bosses.

 

You should only have arrows bound if you have a hex. Maging is way more important due to the abundance of warriors and high-level demons/ghosts. And, yes, warped bosses are mostly weak to mage, and mage is effective on necrolord, so arrows aren't needed there either (and that'd be the one place you'd use them).

[Sy_Accursed]

Ah I think I got range and mage back to front in my head.

Range is more use on the lower bosses right? Like for the ice floor guy and the ranger in the spiral room.

[Obtaurian]

Ah I think I got range and mage back to front in my head.

Range is more use on the lower bosses right? Like for the ice floor guy and the ranger in the spiral room.

 

Ranged is moderately useful on Astea and Lexicus, but that's about it. Sagittare uses ranged protect prayer. ;) The thing about ranged in Daemonheim is that it's extremely underpowered. It sucks all the way up to t11. The only good bow is the hexhunter, which is extremely useful for most bosses, mages, merc leaders, demons, etc.

[green9090]

As Jimi said, ranged is crap. I range necrolord but I just buy fractite arrows, not a big deal and faster setup than mage. That is the only time I range. I bind laws because they're great for keying c1s and also speed me up getting ready on normal floors (I key, so this is especially important).

 

Do not do not do not bind arrows without a hex.

[Sy_Accursed]

I dunno why i wrote down sagittare there I was thinking of lexcius.

But good info so on my original listing

Blazer becomes gr8 than getting desperado for range, which only has low lvl uses really.

 

So ideally speaking a good ring setup would be 10 berserker, blazer and gatherer and when I find one I should swap out arrow bind for surge box.

And I'm guessing would be good to make quick-swap on the ring hop between berserker and blazer for efficient fighting and manually switch to gatherer as needed.

[green9090]

Sounds good to me.

[Obtaurian]

I dunno why i wrote down sagittare there I was thinking of lexcius.

But good info so on my original listing

Blazer becomes gr8 than getting desperado for range, which only has low lvl uses really.

 

So ideally speaking a good ring setup would be 10 berserker, blazer and gatherer and when I find one I should swap out arrow bind for surge box.

And I'm guessing would be good to make quick-swap on the ring hop between berserker and blazer for efficient fighting and manually switch to gatherer as needed.

 

Bingo. :thumbup: I would even consider switching to laws now while you wait for a csb. Laws are very useful for c1s and save time at the beginning of a floor.

[Quyneax]

If you were keying on gatherer, you'd do berserker/gatherer. If you were doing a dps role, berserker/desperado or berserker/blazer.

 

Incidentally, at tier 10 blitzer suddenly beats blazer :P.

[Sy_Accursed]

Oh I have one last question:

 

If I get a surge box (inside dg this is) and fill it with earth surge (current best spell i can do) and have it bound

In a couple of mage levels time when I can cast fire surge is the a way I can empty out the box and put in fire surge instead?

 

Or does it not matter, I recall reading in some place it only holds air death blood?

[Saradomin_Mage]

You can only fill the surgebox to cast Wind Wave or Wind Surge

Meaning you'll have to get a staff to cast another variety of surge spell.