Verac vs Neit

[AHappySeeker]

Could someone explain to me why Neit is generally recommended over Verac? Are the slightly reduced penalties and +3 str really worth it over the def when bossing?

[Sy_Accursed]

It has no attack penalties; all other helms do.

[AHappySeeker]

But Verac's attack penalties are miniscule. Is the def really worth trading off?

[Sy_Accursed]

Yes attack bonuses matter more than defence bonuses; plus the average outfit gets all defences up to like 200 - 300 anyway so 2 or 3 means nothing as it has little impact. While the attack bonus can still make a differnce.

Case and point:

Bandos and defenders are better than other armours and shields despite giving very limited defence.

And void melee owns despite being virtually defencless

[MstrMonopoly]

But Verac's attack penalties are miniscule. Is the def really worth trading off?

 

Yes.

 

Actually, depends on what you're going to do.

[Wessan]

Verac's is good for using the whole set. Otherwise, Helm of Niet is better. Offers no attack penalties as well as a similar prayer bonus, which is the real reason behind Verac.

[All_Is_Great]

Verac's helm is good in safe pvp situations. Esp. for tribridding and stuff.

 

It's also good when you're soloing bosses.

[i_trollz_u]

I use a verac's helm in some of my range tank setups in the wilderness. It's useful for pvp, although a torags helm would probably work just as well, and is cheaper.

[AHappySeeker]

I understand the applications of this type of helm. I'm just perplexed as to why you would sacrifice so much def for 2 points of ranged accuracy.

[LitterBug]

You don't need defense in most cases.

[Articultural]

You don't wear it while ranging, that's what arma/pernix is for. When meleeing you often don't need the extra defence, hence the neit's offensive bonuses make it superior.