Blackthought Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 hey i'm trying to firgue out wat i need and want i want for my pc.but the promble is that i dont know how much space or wat type of grafic cards i have and etc. the only thing i firgued out is that i got AMD Duronprocessor (wtf is that?) 1.10GHz,256 MB of Ram (is this good or bad?) but i still want need more info before i buy anything and those 2 info i got is it good or bad or wat should i buy? Edit:by the way its a windows xp home edtion EDITok heres what i got Operating system: windows xp home edition Os service pack: service pack 2 DirectX: 4.09.00.094(directx 9.C) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Motherboard CPU type:AMD Duron, 1100MHz (11x100) Mother board name:PCChips M830LR Mother board chipset: SiS 735 system memory:256 mb Bios type: AMI ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Display video adaptar:: NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X (64mb) 3D acctalor:NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X Thats about all the important stuff i still got some more info if you need it but please tell me what i need and how much the cost is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apinagez Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Then you managed to find out what's your pc... I think that is a bit slow for Win XP, myself, my comp is a Pentium 4 with 2.8 Ghz, 512Mb RAM, it runs very fine everything I need it to run. About your questions: AMD Duronprocessor (* is that?) is obviously your processor, and 256Mb RAM is your memory. What applications do you use? If you just use your comp to play runescape and browse forums it is fine, but if you want to play the heaviest games and heavy graphics programs, while doing a bunch of stuff, I'd recommend a Pentium 4 processor or a good version of AMD Athlon and 512Mb or 1Gb RAM. If you are gonna use heavy software, again, you should get a graphics card, ATi Radeon or Nvidia GeForce are both ok, I recomend 128 or 256Mb on your video card. Again, it all depends on what you use your computer for, tell us and we'll give more accurate advice. ^The most disturbing signature on Tip.it^Last.fm|HELLY KAYLA!|Oh the mehagurtz!|#Siencemakers"they care less about their spelling mistakes then I." - Lionheart"apinagez... let me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackthought Posted January 14, 2006 Author Share Posted January 14, 2006 well i use runescape alot but i play games like halo online command and conquer and things like that but also i plan playing world of warcraft during summer time it ran fine that last time i played but got majors lags in any major city in WoW so any reccomandtions on wat i should buy and how much its gonna be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apinagez Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Three recommendations on the three posts you made today: >>>Thank people who help you >>>Read everything people post, I already told you what you should get >>>Punctuation is your friend Sorry, as I don't live in the U.S. I can't tell you anything about prices. ^The most disturbing signature on Tip.it^Last.fm|HELLY KAYLA!|Oh the mehagurtz!|#Siencemakers"they care less about their spelling mistakes then I." - Lionheart"apinagez... let me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Militaris Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Download everest, this program would provide a summary and more comprehensive information on your hardware and software. Like apinagez has already said your current computer is only suitable for basic tasks and older games. There is a slight chance that a upgrade can be done, but I would require more info. I think duron run on socket A motherboards (but not certain). If that is the case you could upgrade to the following parts. AMD Sempron CPU for socket A, I would suggest the 2800+, or the fastest you can find.... Increase your ram buy purchasing 512MB of PC3200 SDRAM. Last a new graphics card, I suspect your system would operate on AGP. So I would suggest the 6600 GT video card, or the 9600 pro if money is tight. Assuming the parts are compatible, a upgrade would cost less then $300 USD. It would give a nice increase of preformance. The alternative would be to replace the entire system. Without more information, like the amount you are willing to spend, it is difficult to suggest which parts you should purchase. Although it is possible to purchase quite a nice system for around $500 USD that really should be the minimum. Maybe something like the following. AMD 64 3200+ (Socket 939) $160 (or 3500+, 3700+, X2 ect) DFI nF4 Ultra-Infinity Socket 939 $96 Gefore 6800 GS PCI-E $199 (Or $299 for 7800GT) 2x512mb PC3200 SDram $78 250GB 3.5" 7200rpm Serial ATA150 Hard Drive $105 Case: $75 PSU: ENERMAX 420w $65 Total: $778 (A little more then my $500 which I thought but that is a good system) Edit: I just checked and the semp 3000+ does not come in socket A, the fastest seems to be the 2800+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Militaris Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 >>>Read everything people post, I already told you what you should get You did not really tell him what he should get, you pretty much suggested the two main CPU companies, and the two main video card companies, and a few basic specs.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apinagez Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 >>>Read everything people post, I already told you what you should get You did not really tell him what he should get, you pretty much suggested the two main CPU companies, and the two main video card companies, and a few basic specs.... I posted what would be a good configuration to run some heavier software, sorry, I'm not an expert like you...but he seems to be even less than me. ^The most disturbing signature on Tip.it^Last.fm|HELLY KAYLA!|Oh the mehagurtz!|#Siencemakers"they care less about their spelling mistakes then I." - Lionheart"apinagez... let me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackthought Posted January 14, 2006 Author Share Posted January 14, 2006 Download everest, this program would provide a summary and more comprehensive information on your hardware and software. Like apinagez has already said your current computer is only suitable for basic tasks and older games. There is a slight chance that a upgrade can be done, but I would require more info. I think duron run on socket A motherboards (but not certain). If that is the case you could upgrade to the following parts. AMD Sempron CPU for socket A, I would suggest the 3000+, or the fastest you can find.... (not all shops stock the 3000+) Increase your ram buy purchasing 512MB of PC3200 SDRAM. Last a new graphics card, I suspect your system would operate on AGP. So I would suggest the 6600 GT video card, or the 9600 pro if money is tight. Assuming the parts are compatible, a upgrade would cost less then $300 USD. It would give a nice increase of preformance. The alternative would be to replace the entire system. Without more information, like the amount you are willing to spend, it is difficult to suggest which parts you should purchase. Although it is possible to purchase quite a nice system for around $500 USD that really should be the minimum. Maybe something like the following. AMD 64 3200+ (Socket 939) $160 (or 3500+, 3700+, X2 ect) DFI nF4 Ultra-Infinity Socket 939 $96 Gefore 6800 GS PCI-E $199 (Or $299 for 7800GT) 2x512mb PC3200 SDram $78 250GB 3.5" 7200rpm Serial ATA150 Hard Drive $105 Case: $75 PSU: ENERMAX 420w $65 Total: $778 (A little more then my $500 which I thought but that is a good system) hmm wow that help me out but where can i find this prgram called everest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Militaris Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Yes... I was suppose to paste the link :) Sorry about that. (Because it is now unsupported it is getting harder to locate) http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4181.html (There is a good alternative which I must locate one day) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackthought Posted January 14, 2006 Author Share Posted January 14, 2006 ty once i know my main drivers i have more questions :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackthought Posted January 15, 2006 Author Share Posted January 15, 2006 bumpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Militaris Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Although it might be possible to upgrade, I would recommend against it, and I am not confident that my knowledge of compatibility with old hardware is not up to the task. The price to replace the case would range from around $500 to several thousand. The $500 Gaming Machine from Tomshardware provides a interesting read, and would provide a significant performance increase over your current machine. http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/10/14/the_/ Although such a machine I consider almost inaccurate for most current games. Better to spend around the $750-$1250 mark. CPU The AMD Athlon 64 3200+ provides nice preformance at a decent price. For gaming (and most tasks) AMD Athlon 64 are the best. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819103535 $160.00 Motherboard The Foxconn NF4K8MC-ERS* Socket 939 board is reliable and well built, and at a good price for what it offers. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813186052 $73.50 The video card is one of the most important parts for overall gaming preformance. I would suggest the XFX PVT42GUAD7 Geforce 6800GS 256MB. This card is shipped overclocked, and is one of the cheapest. The 6800GS is not the best video card, but it is a good match for the above CPU. $199.00 Memory 1GB of memory is often reccomended, although there are advantages in choosing 2GB. OCZ Value Series 1GB (2 x 512MB) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820227039 $73.44 after $10.00 Mail-In Rebate G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820231047 $169.00 Hard-Drive Seagate Barracuda 7200.8 250GB 3.5" Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6822148065 $108.00 Case There are heaps of cases around, nice cases can be found for around the $50 mark. Personal preference plays a large part in this. Although something like the RAIDMAX X1 ATX-909WB is a nice case for the price (Although rather ugly in my opinion). http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6811156179 $50 Power Supply A good quality power supply is more efficint, and would make the computer more stable. Enermax is a proven brand. Enermax 420w power supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6817103459 $64.99 Total: $730 Possible Alternatives AMD Athlon 64 3800+ $282.00 AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ $322 (Dual core) eVGA 256-P2-N515-AX Geforce 7800GT $275 Motherboards: Chaintech VNF4 $64.00 DFI nF4 Ultra-Infinity $96 Epox EP-9NPA+Ultra $105.00 Even the cheapest system above should be able to run wow without any problems. One side note, depending on your internet connection the lag could be caused by that instead of your hardware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackthought Posted January 15, 2006 Author Share Posted January 15, 2006 so spending like $732 would rune world of warcraft no promble? or is it better to spend 732 on a new pc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Militaris Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 so spending like $732 would rune world of warcraft no promble? or is it better to spend 732 on a new pc? Purchasing the $730 system (although does not include postage), above from newegg would easily run WoW. It is pretty much a new PC. Although, in the low end market the Dell Primum saving spotlight deals are hard to bet, espically if you want a new monitor. http://www1.us.dell.com/content/product ... dhs&~ck=mn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackthought Posted January 16, 2006 Author Share Posted January 16, 2006 i just want a new brain. But is it better to spen $732 on upgrades or a new pc thats wat i dont understand? that was my question i just wanna play WoW and those kinda of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Militaris Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Becuase of the age of your hardware, it is difficult to answer, and I do not want to guess. You might be able to upgrade your current motherboard, and put a faster CPU, more meomory and a decent graphics card onto it. This should cost less then $300*, and would likely make wow playable at a reasonable quality. This is the more difficult path. (I can not find much info on your motherboard so I have to guess which parts it is capable of supporting. I would advise against doing this) The other option would be to upgrade to current technology, which would cost around $730. This would make wow playable at good quality. The final option would be to upgrade to entry level technology. A new motherboard can be brought for around $65, 1gb memory for $75, Sempron CPU for $75, and a new video card for between $65-$130 (9600 pro or 6600GT). Total: $290, Because of the price of a new motherboard I would suggest against upgrading around it. This upgrade would play wow at a decent quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
____ Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Well, it is younger than my 433 machine, so I doubt there will be many problems. I think the only clash would be with ram and perhaps video card. Personally I wouldn't bother upgrading since I'd basically just be getting new everything anyways :-? Buy a new system for 1400 or whatever and turn that one into a LAN server or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomster Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 If you were going to change one thing, for any game that supports decent graphics cards (eg. NOT RUNESCAPE). then it would be a better graphics card - The Geforce 4 MX is actually closer to a Geforce 2 and any current low-midrange AGP graphics card would wipe the floor with it. Id be wary of getting a motherboard/CPU/RAM combination currently running at 100 FSB (Duron) up to the 166 FSB of the final version of the Sempron - it may be limited to 133 FSB. If you can find one cheap enough, a Duron 1800 (they operate at 133 FSB) may be more likely to work. The 810LMR is a "cheap and cheerful" motherboard, and not as good a candidate for upgrade as anything based on the Nforce 2 chipset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackthought Posted January 16, 2006 Author Share Posted January 16, 2006 Well, it is younger than my 433 machine, so I doubt there will be many problems. I think the only clash would be with ram and perhaps video card. Personally I wouldn't bother upgrading since I'd basically just be getting new everything anyways :-? Buy a new system for 1400 or whatever and turn that one into a LAN server or whatever. woot my pc anint feeling so old anymore...but anmways u know a cheap pc thats good?like mybe a an 200$ upgrade there and there mybe grapic or sumthing? cuz i have no idea wats the pc prices lately ( i just want the brain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Militaris Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 You can get the following upgrade for less then $200 CHAINTECH MBAV-MK8T890 Socket 754 VIA K8T890 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail $39.00 (Might require Bios flashing) AMD Sempron 64 2600+ Palermo 800MHz FSB Socket 754 Processor Model SDA2600BXBOX - Retail $65 BUFFALO Select 512MB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) $37.74 connect3D 3032 Radeon X550 128MB $54.99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackthought Posted January 17, 2006 Author Share Posted January 17, 2006 hmmm though choice cuz one of my plan was buy a cheap brain and put new grafic card and mempry and save more money to upgraeer further Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahoo Posted January 17, 2006 Share Posted January 17, 2006 if you have the money, i would seriously recommend buying a dual core pc. I know that not many games are set up for it now, but soon they will be, some games are already releasing patches to encorporate dual core pc's. The 4400+ is a good choice, and if you want to overclock, the dual core opterons or the xeon is a good one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackthought Posted January 18, 2006 Author Share Posted January 18, 2006 wats a duel core pc and how much$$ does it cost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Militaris Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 With 'brain' do you mean the 'processor/cpu'? A Dual core CPU has two independent processors on a single chip. It means having 2 processors inside your computer. Currently the main advantage for the average user is improved preformance in multi-tasking. The cheapest AMD Athlon 64 dual core option is the Athlon 64 X2 3800+, it sells for around $322.00 at newegg. A Alternative is the AMD Opteron 165, which sells for $345.00 The cheapest Intel Pentium dual core option is the D 820, it sells for $243.00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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