Miner_Guy Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Hey, my family needs a new desktop for the family, the desktop needs to be for all family stuff e.g casual gaming and for work. My price limit is £500-£600, i am not looking into building my own and these two were the best i could find bearing in mind im english: Option one:HP Pavilion Slimline s5-1015uk Desktop PC £579http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/hp-pavilion-slimline-s5-1015uk-desktop-pc-10452173-pdt.html Option two: XPS 8300 £539http://s1094.photobucket.com/albums/i451/Panda-Chef/?action=view¤t=pcdell.png Which one is better or do you guys have any other better suggestions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasignhagj Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 What do you mean by casual gaming? The 6450 isn't going to play much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbrideau Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 The Dell has better specs but I would try to find something similar to the Dell but from another brand since Dell isn't a good brand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Please.. consider building [hide=Build]Part list permalink / Part price breakdown by merchant CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£89.86 @ Scan.co.uk) Motherboard: MSI 870-G45 ATX AM3 Motherboard (£50.24 @ Scan.co.uk) Memory: Corsair XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory (£24.89 @ Ebuyer) Hard Drive: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£44.87 @ Scan.co.uk) Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 6770 1GB Video Card (£79.55 @ Ebuyer) Case: Cooler Master Elite 335 ATX Mid Tower Case (£28.65 @ Ebuyer) Power Supply: Corsair 500W ATX12V Power Supply (£44.80 @ Ebuyer) Optical Drive: Sony AD-7261S-0B DVD/CD Writer (£15.99 @ Amazon UK) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) (£71.05 @ Ebuyer) Total: £449.90(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)(Generated 2011-10-09 22:14 BST+0100)[/hide] If not, I've actually seen some builds by smaller companies selling computers on amazon, and they're actually pretty good value for money (they're built then sold to you). I can't vouch for the companies, but their prices are 100% more competitive than dells, or any other large PC manufacturer. RIP TET "That which does not kill us makes us stronger." - Friedrich Nietzsche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miner_Guy Posted October 10, 2011 Author Share Posted October 10, 2011 Please.. consider building [hide=Build]Part list permalink / Part price breakdown by merchant CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£89.86 @ Scan.co.uk) Motherboard: MSI 870-G45 ATX AM3 Motherboard (£50.24 @ Scan.co.uk) Memory: Corsair XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory (£24.89 @ Ebuyer) Hard Drive: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£44.87 @ Scan.co.uk) Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 6770 1GB Video Card (£79.55 @ Ebuyer) Case: Cooler Master Elite 335 ATX Mid Tower Case (£28.65 @ Ebuyer) Power Supply: Corsair 500W ATX12V Power Supply (£44.80 @ Ebuyer) Optical Drive: Sony AD-7261S-0B DVD/CD Writer (£15.99 @ Amazon UK) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) (£71.05 @ Ebuyer) Total: £449.90(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)(Generated 2011-10-09 22:14 BST+0100)[/hide] If not, I've actually seen some builds by smaller companies selling computers on amazon, and they're actually pretty good value for money (they're built then sold to you). I can't vouch for the companies, but their prices are 100% more competitive than dells, or any other large PC manufacturer.Ok, but how hard is it to put it together correctly? And does that include everything, like the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Askthedude Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Please.. consider building [hide=Build]Part list permalink / Part price breakdown by merchant CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£89.86 @ Scan.co.uk) Motherboard: MSI 870-G45 ATX AM3 Motherboard (£50.24 @ Scan.co.uk) Memory: Corsair XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory (£24.89 @ Ebuyer) Hard Drive: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£44.87 @ Scan.co.uk) Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 6770 1GB Video Card (£79.55 @ Ebuyer) Case: Cooler Master Elite 335 ATX Mid Tower Case (£28.65 @ Ebuyer) Power Supply: Corsair 500W ATX12V Power Supply (£44.80 @ Ebuyer) Optical Drive: Sony AD-7261S-0B DVD/CD Writer (£15.99 @ Amazon UK) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) (£71.05 @ Ebuyer) Total: £449.90(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)(Generated 2011-10-09 22:14 BST+0100)[/hide] If not, I've actually seen some builds by smaller companies selling computers on amazon, and they're actually pretty good value for money (they're built then sold to you). I can't vouch for the companies, but their prices are 100% more competitive than dells, or any other large PC manufacturer.Ok, but how hard is it to put it together correctly? And does that include everything, like the caseIt's very easy to put a PC togethor, and there are plenty of guides on the internet such as these:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_56kyib-Ls&feature=relmfuhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxaVBsXEiok&feature=relmfuGuy's build does include everything, but you can probably squeeze an i5 2400 into your budget. -Edit-Here you go:2400 vs Phenom x4 Comparison. Or an i5 2500k if you want a bit more future proofing in the form of overclocking when you start to notice a slow down. Depends on how close to your max budget you want to get.2500k vs Phenom x4 Comparison. Why can't the Big Bang be done by the hand of God?It could have, but it is next to impossible because it also could have been caused by the flying spaghetti monster, or one of the other infinite number of deity possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miner_Guy Posted October 10, 2011 Author Share Posted October 10, 2011 Ok, does those links you posted contain all the parts? Also i dont just want it for gaming will it be able to be a family pc as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Please.. consider building [hide=Build]Part list permalink / Part price breakdown by merchant CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£89.86 @ Scan.co.uk) Motherboard: MSI 870-G45 ATX AM3 Motherboard (£50.24 @ Scan.co.uk) Memory: Corsair XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory (£24.89 @ Ebuyer) Hard Drive: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£44.87 @ Scan.co.uk) Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 6770 1GB Video Card (£79.55 @ Ebuyer) Case: Cooler Master Elite 335 ATX Mid Tower Case (£28.65 @ Ebuyer) Power Supply: Corsair 500W ATX12V Power Supply (£44.80 @ Ebuyer) Optical Drive: Sony AD-7261S-0B DVD/CD Writer (£15.99 @ Amazon UK) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) (£71.05 @ Ebuyer) Total: £449.90(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)(Generated 2011-10-09 22:14 BST+0100)[/hide]Guy's build does include everything, but you can probably squeeze an i5 2400 into your budget.-£140 for current CPU/Motherboard. +£150 for i5 2400, setting total to £460~. That leaves you £140 for motherboard, which is easily doable (you can get good ones for under £100). Up to you if you want the upgrade, I wouldn't bother unless you're doing quite a bit of gaming (BF3-esque) RIP TET "That which does not kill us makes us stronger." - Friedrich Nietzsche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasignhagj Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 If it helps, I can play BF3 on High, Ultra textures and 2xAA fine with my 460. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Askthedude Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Ok, does those links you posted contain all the parts? Also i dont just want it for gaming will it be able to be a family pc as well? Is that directed at me? The links I posted are just comparisons of the 2 CPUs. If you want I can post you the links for the parts, just tell me which build you're wanting. Why can't the Big Bang be done by the hand of God?It could have, but it is next to impossible because it also could have been caused by the flying spaghetti monster, or one of the other infinite number of deity possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miner_Guy Posted October 10, 2011 Author Share Posted October 10, 2011 Ok, does those links you posted contain all the parts? Also i dont just want it for gaming will it be able to be a family pc as well? Is that directed at me? The links I posted are just comparisons of the 2 CPUs. If you want I can post you the links for the parts, just tell me which build you're wanting.Both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Askthedude Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Ok, does those links you posted contain all the parts? Also i dont just want it for gaming will it be able to be a family pc as well? Is that directed at me? The links I posted are just comparisons of the 2 CPUs. If you want I can post you the links for the parts, just tell me which build you're wanting.Both i5 2500k / i5 2400GPUMotherboardW7 & HDD bundlePSUCaseRAMCD drive The RAM is a 'This week only offer' that expires on Wednesday so if you order afterwards it may go up in price but there is almost always a 2x2GB DDR3 1333Mhz set on offer so you can swap them out. If you're unsure update your topic or PM me for help. Why can't the Big Bang be done by the hand of God?It could have, but it is next to impossible because it also could have been caused by the flying spaghetti monster, or one of the other infinite number of deity possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miner_Guy Posted October 10, 2011 Author Share Posted October 10, 2011 Ok, does those links you posted contain all the parts? Also i dont just want it for gaming will it be able to be a family pc as well? Is that directed at me? The links I posted are just comparisons of the 2 CPUs. If you want I can post you the links for the parts, just tell me which build you're wanting.Both i5 2500k / i5 2400GPUMotherboardW7 & HDD bundlePSUCaseRAMCD drive The RAM is a 'This week only offer' that expires on Wednesday so if you order afterwards it may go up in price but there is almost always a 2x2GB DDR3 1333Mhz set on offer so you can swap them out. If you're unsure update your topic or PM me for help.Thanks alot for your help both you and guy, is that everything i will need to build it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy500fan Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Just some advice: If this is your first build take your time with it. You may get a part that is DOA, but many of the times you just plugged in something wrong. I've worked on computers forever and every build I have done has had one random problem or another. They are all fixable, and you can ask for help. If you want to game you are definitely going to want to build one, unless you like throwing money away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasignhagj Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Go for the 1gb GTX 460. Most modern games are starting to use at least 1gb of VRAM at 1920x1080. EDIT: Grab this 550ti. It preforms about the same as the 1gb 460, but is 30 pounds less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miner_Guy Posted October 14, 2011 Author Share Posted October 14, 2011 I got recommended these parts by a friend, which is the best out of all the parts posted on these topics? And how likely is it to break if i build it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasignhagj Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 That build looks very nice. I'd replace the Coolermaster PSU though. Get something by Corsair, Antec or Seasonic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miner_Guy Posted October 15, 2011 Author Share Posted October 15, 2011 That build looks very nice. I'd replace the Coolermaster PSU though. Get something by Corsair, Antec or Seasonic.Ok i am going to buy the parts soon, is this one better?Corsair 500W CX V2 PSUAnd the picture above apart from tools is that all the components i will need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 That build looks very nice. I'd replace the Coolermaster PSU though. Get something by Corsair, Antec or Seasonic.Ok i am going to buy the parts soon, is this one better?Corsair 500W CX V2 PSUAnd the picture above apart from tools is that all the components i will need?Yes, that corsair one is good. You'll only need a screwdriver when it comes to tools. Looking good. RIP TET "That which does not kill us makes us stronger." - Friedrich Nietzsche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miner_Guy Posted October 15, 2011 Author Share Posted October 15, 2011 So i wont need any cable ties or anything like that? Ok i will order it today off ebuyer, how much memory on the hard drive will it have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 You don't >need< cable ties, but they're nice. You can get 100 for like 2 pounds on ebay. The harddrive is 1TB, or 1000GB. RIP TET "That which does not kill us makes us stronger." - Friedrich Nietzsche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miner_Guy Posted October 16, 2011 Author Share Posted October 16, 2011 One last thing to make my pc neater i will use cable ties, any idea on the length and width, the options are120mm x2.5m200m x 2.5mm300m x3.6mFrom this link http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CABLE-TIES-HIGH-QUALITY-FAST-FREE-DELIVERY-/280723810540?pt=UK_Packaging_Materials&var=&hash=item870d119202 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 I personally like the 2.5mm ones, and 120mm will be good for length (you'll be cutting the majority of it off anyway, no point in 200mm) RIP TET "That which does not kill us makes us stronger." - Friedrich Nietzsche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miner_Guy Posted October 23, 2011 Author Share Posted October 23, 2011 Im bulidng the pc now, i have just done the cpu and im now installing the fan that goes with it, it comes with silica gel. Is that the same as thermal paste, do i put it on the same areas? And how do i apply it on the surface? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Silica gel? The AMD cooler comes preapplied with thermal paste, which is gray. RIP TET "That which does not kill us makes us stronger." - Friedrich Nietzsche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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