X3EN Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Dungeoneering:I have maxed prestige (37) for my level (73), bound prom 2h and SSH. I tried doing as many people suggest: rushing low floors and doing c6 meds since Abandoned floors, but I find it awful, since I am getting extremely low XP (tokens). 0 deaths, of course.Typical c1 rush ends in 2-5 minutes and yields 500 tokens max (for latest floors), earlier ones give horrible xp, like 200-400 per floor.A c6 med I can do in 30-60 minutes (typically ~40) and it yields around 7-8k XP max. Unfortunately, occult floors contain bosses that are nearly impossible to kill without one death (C6) and thus get [nearly] worse than earlier ones. The question is, should I dung with randoms and just how hard is to find a party?From what I tried, even in a duo you get XP at least 1.5 times faster (if the person doesn't quit immediately or AFKs the whole time). However, I never find people who would want to party AND would not try to purely leech. Money making:My combat skill levels are too low for any MM bosses (combat 121), so that's out of question. As I understand, the most viable way for me would be green dragons so: What's better, to KS bots or to actually kill dragons in an uncrowded/empty world? Bear in mind that I would useNeitz + fury + torags plate/legs + c10 gloves + dragon boots + zerker + whip + anti-dfs, so that means I would be less accurate and have less overall DPS than a generic 95-110 level hunter/bot (typically they successfully ks me). R.I.P. oO000oO0oO00, RS2 range pure transformed to a maxed PvM char in EoC, ten years of time completely wasted.Good to be gone :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tansuo Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Dungeoneering:Solo dungeeoneering is horrible xp/tokens. Only time you should really be doing it is up to ~level 60, THEN dging large floors with a party. As for finding a party, try joining a dg clan, i.e EOE or DGS.Only dg with randoms if youre horribly desperate. Moneymaking:IDK I have ~1m | | | A Blog to Bathtubs for BeginnersQuest Cape | 99 Defence Achieved 11-Jul-2011 17:41 | 99 Prayer 11-Jul-2012 | 99 Constitution 02-Aug-201299 Attack 31/10/2012 | 99 Dungeoneering 31/10/2012 | 99 Strength 31/10/2012 | 99 Magic 2/12/201299 Range 16/12/2012 | 99 Herblore 25/12/2012 | 99 Summoning 4/1/2013 | 99 Firemaking 6/3/201399 Farming 10/4/2013 | 99 Slayer 11/7/2013 | 99 Fletching 21/8/2013 | 99 Smithing 22/8/2013 99 Crafting 19/12/2013 | 99 Cooking 15/1/2014 | 99 Agility 25/1/2014 | 99 Thieving 01/02/201499 Construction 21/04/2014 | 99 Woodcutting 04/03/2014 | 99 Fishing 17/04/2014 | 99 Mining 23/07/201599 Divination 27/07/2015 | 99 Runecrafting 20/08/2015 | 99 Hunter 20/08/2015 | Maxed 20/08/2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avid43 Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 In the last couple of weeks I've levelled up from 70 Dg to 82. The method I used was to do floors 1-29 C1 rush either on my own or in a group (it didn't make too much difference on time) and then I would do floors 30+ large C6 in a group of 5 with randoms. Now I have gotten into the 80s I am rushing floors 1-35 and doing 35+ large. This can be very frustrating at times but I stuck with it and made a couple of friends a long the way. The fastest I did a floor was 34mins and the slowest 1hr 7mins, the average time is probably ~45mins. This is way way off the pace of "pro" DGers but w/e, sometimes it is very annoying as people will quit out or they will just go afk for ages. Although it's hard work I would definitely recommend DGing with randoms, if you have no-one else to do it with, because sometimes you will get lucky and find yourself in a good group and it's a lot better than solo. It's very easy to start a party, just go to world 32 and trade somebody for an invite that is advertising a floor you want to do. Alternatively, host your own floor and invite people that trade you - that's what I do as you then spawn his the GGS (group gate stone) and can people can tele to you quickly to help with Gaurdian and skill doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th e Doctor Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 For making money you should be doing all three of the following 1. Farming the best profit herb that your level allows.2. Investing into Manage Thy Kingdom once a week.3. Doing your profitable dailies. Other money making options would be easier to advise if we knew your stats... Armadyl Drops : 4 Hilts; 3 Chestplates; 2 Chainskirts; 1 Helmet; 1 Buckler; 2 Shard 1; 2 Shard 2; 1 Shard 3Nex : 1 Zaryte BowKalphite King : 1 Drygore Rapier ; 1 Drygore Longsword : 1 Drygore Offhand Rapier : 1 Drygore Offhand Longsword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X3EN Posted May 31, 2012 Author Share Posted May 31, 2012 Other money making options would be easier to advise if we knew your stats... I thought specifying RSN in the profile is enough, but now I updated the first post with them. Ahem. MtK is a completely passive MM activity, I was looking for suggestions on doing something in addition.Profitable dailies? Generally I only do JoT (free xp), staves (combination of crafting & magic xp AND some cash) and wicked set blood crafting. Sand if I am passing by Yanille. I still remember the times when I was doing it all, that is farming runs, flax, shops (feathers, runes), seaweed, pineapples, bork and others. However, then I noticed they take a lot of time, but I am getting horrible xp/time and gp/time.Roughly speaking, GP earned off 30 dailies wouldn't even add up to (return - investment) of MtK per 1 month (a.k.a. time waste). R.I.P. oO000oO0oO00, RS2 range pure transformed to a maxed PvM char in EoC, ten years of time completely wasted.Good to be gone :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avid43 Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 You should definitely be farming herbs. You can do snapdragons are they are very good money and take no time at all. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyNooblet Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Money making is ezAll u gotta do is stick to something for chunks of 30 minutes to hour(s).If you just moneymake for 10 minutes you're bound to make nothing (obviously).It doesnt have to be something boring either(but usually it is lol). Slaying - pretty decent if you dont power slayMaking unf's - It's fast money but unstable and very risky, depends on the herbs/potsBossing - If you got a couple friends and if you're feelin lucky go try bandos, it's a ton of fun... if you dont stay there for like 5 hours lolDragons/Demons - Bones and ashes are pretty expensive in bulk, maybe go hoard some for a ton of moneyResources - Woodcutting, fishing, mining, and farming are pretty slow but if you feel like skilling go aheadIf you realized, you can make money from anything tbh, just use your brain or just go to youtube or something lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X3EN Posted May 31, 2012 Author Share Posted May 31, 2012 Money making is ezAll u gotta do is stick to something for chunks of 30 minutes to hour(s).If you just moneymake for 10 minutes you're bound to make nothing (obviously).It doesnt have to be something boring either(but usually it is lol). Slaying - pretty decent if you dont power slayMaking unf's - It's fast money but unstable and very risky, depends on the herbs/potsBossing - If you got a couple friends and if you're feelin lucky go try bandos, it's a ton of fun... if you dont stay there for like 5 hours lolDragons/Demons - Bones and ashes are pretty expensive in bulk, maybe go hoard some for a ton of moneyResources - Woodcutting, fishing, mining, and farming are pretty slow but if you feel like skilling go aheadIf you realized, you can make money from anything tbh, just use your brain or just go to youtube or something lol I know how to make money on the side. That's why I'm asking for dedicated moneymaking schemes, hopefully with some XP on the side. Slaying - non-powerslaying is just horrible. Horrible combat XP, horrible slayer XP and horrible money. Bossing - you haven't looked at my stats. You can't kill bosses (except for Giant Mole perhaps) with these stats. I do not like to spend money while hoping for a lucky drop - that is gambling. R.I.P. oO000oO0oO00, RS2 range pure transformed to a maxed PvM char in EoC, ten years of time completely wasted.Good to be gone :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avid43 Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 You're asking quite a lot if you want a good consistent money maker that also gives you good xp. If you don't like bossing get 85 Dungeoneering and kill frost dragons with herb runs in between, that's the best I know of based off your criteria and levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th e Doctor Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 You're asking quite a lot if you want a good consistent money maker that also gives you good xp. If you don't like bossing get 85 Dungeoneering and kill frost dragons with herb runs in between, that's the best I know of based off your criteria and levels. This. Dg to 85 while farming herbs and doing dailies for cash. Get your rapier and go do frost dragons. The only goood moneymaker that I know of tgat is also good exp is fire surge on glacors. Armadyl Drops : 4 Hilts; 3 Chestplates; 2 Chainskirts; 1 Helmet; 1 Buckler; 2 Shard 1; 2 Shard 2; 1 Shard 3Nex : 1 Zaryte BowKalphite King : 1 Drygore Rapier ; 1 Drygore Longsword : 1 Drygore Offhand Rapier : 1 Drygore Offhand Longsword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 If it takes you 30-60 minutes to do a medium floor, you need to work on that. It should be 20 minutes or less. As it is, people have soloed large 5:5 floors faster than your fastest med, which tells you something's up.(unless you go for fishing/woodcutting xp too, in that case you would take another 5-10 mins per floor). Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Labas Your dungeoneering experience will improve if you focus on doing floors quickly. Practice doing meds in under 15 minutes (aim for sub 15, but anything below 20 should be good). Then apply what you learned from meds in your large floors and they'll improve to. You can't do much for money right now - all the best methods require levels you don't have or quests you haven't done. However, you really don't need that much money, so dailies should cover you. Work on unlocking extremes then turmoil with your snapdragon money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X3EN Posted May 31, 2012 Author Share Posted May 31, 2012 You're asking quite a lot if you want a good consistent money maker that also gives you good xp.hopefully with some XP on the side hopefully = would be great, but usually you can't have it all, so no big dealsome = can be highly sub-par to decent XP/time methods About dung:I have done 1 large floor in total. That was pre all the dung updates (shortly after release).Yes, so far I haven't soloed a C6 med faster than 30 minutes. I don't WC, but I do fish since the XP is amazingly fast. On the other hand, I never take more than 25 mins to duo a C6 med (with a similarly experienced person)*. I know it is bad and coupled with my low dung level (< 80) I will not make a good member of a regular dung clan/fc. * - That increase in speed is directly related to the guardian door room clearing speed. With my stats, zerker lvl 5 I still take very long to kill mobs (many misses), even though I handpick the best style (from slash/crush) and use best magic on forg warriors or weak bosses. R.I.P. oO000oO0oO00, RS2 range pure transformed to a maxed PvM char in EoC, ten years of time completely wasted.Good to be gone :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th e Doctor Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 You're asking quite a lot if you want a good consistent money maker that also gives you good xp.hopefully with some XP on the side hopefully = would be great, but usually you can't have it all, so no big dealsome = can be highly sub-par to decent XP/time methods About dung:I have done 1 large floor in total. That was pre all the dung updates (shortly after release).Yes, so far I haven't soloed a C6 med faster than 30 minutes. I don't WC, but I do fish since the XP is amazingly fast. On the other hand, I never take more than 25 mins to duo a C6 med (with a similarly experienced person)*. I know it is bad and coupled with my low dung level (< 80) I will not make a good member of a regular dung clan/fc. * - That increase in speed is directly related to the guardian door room clearing speed. With my stats, zerker lvl 5 I still take very long to kill mobs (many misses), even though I handpick the best style (from slash/crush) and use best magic on forg warriors or weak bosses. Are you wasting time making runes then? My stats were very similar to yours when I did c6 meds and I still was sub 20 min on every floor that I didnt fish.Do you make use of both gatestoned? Do you take a strategic death when its worth it? Armadyl Drops : 4 Hilts; 3 Chestplates; 2 Chainskirts; 1 Helmet; 1 Buckler; 2 Shard 1; 2 Shard 2; 1 Shard 3Nex : 1 Zaryte BowKalphite King : 1 Drygore Rapier ; 1 Drygore Longsword : 1 Drygore Offhand Rapier : 1 Drygore Offhand Longsword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X3EN Posted May 31, 2012 Author Share Posted May 31, 2012 Are you wasting time making runes then? My stats were very similar to yours when I did c6 meds and I still was sub 20 min on every floor that I didnt fish.Do you make use of both gatestoned? Do you take a strategic death when its worth it? Typically I only make runes when absolutely necessary (that may be the reason of slowness) and yeh, I use both gatestones, having spare cosmics and laws in my inv all time. R.I.P. oO000oO0oO00, RS2 range pure transformed to a maxed PvM char in EoC, ten years of time completely wasted.Good to be gone :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Focus on small paths then do crit (the opposite of larges) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th e Doctor Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Are you wasting time making runes then? My stats were very similar to yours when I did c6 meds and I still was sub 20 min on every floor that I didnt fish.Do you make use of both gatestoned? Do you take a strategic death when its worth it? Typically I only make runes when absolutely necessary (that may be the reason of slowness) and yeh, I use both gatestones, having spare cosmics and laws in my inv all time. Do you take deaths when necessary? Going out of your way to avoid a single death can cost you a lot of time in a dungeon (worst case scenario upwards of 10-5 min per floor). Armadyl Drops : 4 Hilts; 3 Chestplates; 2 Chainskirts; 1 Helmet; 1 Buckler; 2 Shard 1; 2 Shard 2; 1 Shard 3Nex : 1 Zaryte BowKalphite King : 1 Drygore Rapier ; 1 Drygore Longsword : 1 Drygore Offhand Rapier : 1 Drygore Offhand Longsword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assassin1357 Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 You're asking quite a lot if you want a good consistent money maker that also gives you good xp.hopefully with some XP on the side hopefully = would be great, but usually you can't have it all, so no big dealsome = can be highly sub-par to decent XP/time methods About dung:I have done 1 large floor in total. That was pre all the dung updates (shortly after release).Yes, so far I haven't soloed a C6 med faster than 30 minutes. I don't WC, but I do fish since the XP is amazingly fast. On the other hand, I never take more than 25 mins to duo a C6 med (with a similarly experienced person)*. I know it is bad and coupled with my low dung level (< 80) I will not make a good member of a regular dung clan/fc. * - That increase in speed is directly related to the guardian door room clearing speed. With my stats, zerker lvl 5 I still take very long to kill mobs (many misses), even though I handpick the best style (from slash/crush) and use best magic on forg warriors or weak bosses. You need to be doing large floors, doing meds is waste of time. A large 30+ floor will give over 30k exp depending on deaths and should take 40-60 minutes depending on your team. Even doing it with randoms on w32 would be FAR better exp than trying to solo floors, trust me I have been doing this and it is a huge difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X3EN Posted June 2, 2012 Author Share Posted June 2, 2012 You need to be doing large floors, doing meds is waste of time. A large 30+ floor will give over 30k exp depending on deaths and should take 40-60 minutes depending on your team. Even doing it with randoms on w32 would be FAR better exp than trying to solo floors, trust me I have been doing this and it is a huge difference. Yes, I tried doing that (along with rushing c6 smalls on early floors) and the difference is clear as day. Thanks for dg help everyone. R.I.P. oO000oO0oO00, RS2 range pure transformed to a maxed PvM char in EoC, ten years of time completely wasted.Good to be gone :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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