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Dual Wield, abilities and Auto attacks


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After being rather disappointed at Havoc and Smite sharing a CD, and the apparent total lack of performance from my EEE yesterday, I have raised some questions if anyone could help me:

1. Does EEE heal on ability hits? And do SGS or Guthan? I am almost certain the SGS do heal on abilities, and Guthan don't.

2. Let's assume the following. I hit a monster with an autoattack (AA) from my MH weapon, and then I use an ability right at the same tick as my OH AA is due:

A. Will my OH AA be interrupted/skipped?
B. Will my next AA be from MH or OH?
C. Same as B, but assume I started with an OH AA instead of a MH AA?

I know these questions might sound far too deep for a new combat system, but I still like to understand the reason behind the lack of healing from my EEE. SGS is looking like a mightily good choice for me right about now...

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Haven't tested or anything, but I believe they've said that passive effects will only work on auto-attacks.

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I know for a fact Dharok's set effect works on abilities. By the way, use Dharok's. It's really really good.

I believe godswords' passives work on abilities. I haven't been able to see for myself, as my Bandos godsword's supposed defence drain is hidden by my level 95 curses' defence drain effects because they both have the same icon on the combat interface.

Guthan's effect didn't work on abilities when I tested it in beta, but seeing as that was also the case with Dharok's... I could test this myself.

EEE's effect is a total mystery to me. I haven't been dual wielding much because I just hate it for some reason. I don't know why it's just so god awful compared to 2h.
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From what I can see, Dual wield is very underpowered atm because there are very few abilities that actually use damage from both hands (Melee had 2 basics, but thanks to Jagex, it's down to 1 as they share CD), and all other basics, and many of the thresholds and all ultimates simply do not take OH weapon damage into account, meaning, a DW at the moment does about the same amount of dps as MH/shield, the only significant loss being lack of Smite, and the lack of OH auto attacks..

I was merely curious as to how bad the situation technically is.

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I used my eee when I finished temple trekking and only really noticed the heal when using momentum. I couldn't figure out why the boat event went so much better with momentum instead of abilities but I think it was the healing from the eee. From that I'd guess it only heals on aa.

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