Sogeking Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 why does it say you need 80 defence to use it on the defence skill list when its a lvl 60 armour?ive read that it is compared to nex's armour but i dont see how.also,I recently read that the negative bonuses when worn outside have ceased to exist now,is it true? Qc retrieved finally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levells Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Obsidian armor is a bit strange, that's why. It and the quest both require 80 defence. However, the developer wanted to change it around a bit and finally did it with the most recent combat update.The triple damage penalty has been removed, so it is an effective piece of hybrid armor to use anywhere (assuming you don't mind repairing it in time). To prevent it from devaluing nex sets, as obsidian is essentially free, the stats were lowered to that of lvl 60 gear.The wikia is outdated on this subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sogeking Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 oh i see- is it worthwile to use it on the fight caves or should i stick to gano? Qc retrieved finally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ammako Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Don't bother with Obsidian armour, IMO. At least not the helm, top and legs.Akrisae's set is Hybrid too, and has better stats all-around. Unless I'm wrong and there's actually a difference between All and Hybrid. Does Obsidian armour give block chance? Last I tried, Akrisae didn't (everything remained at 0%.)(Of course, if you haven't done RotM, then you couldn't use Akrisae.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenw Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 This update completely and utterly destroyed obsidian armor. Which is ironic, in an effort to make obsidian armor more 'useful', they actually broke it to the point where even other T60 armor is better than Obsidian armor. Unless there are some behind the scenes things going on (which I am not surprised if there is, Hybrid armor is a PR disaster atm), hybrid armor, on their own (especially the "all" class armor, and yes, there seems to be a big difference between "All" and "hybrid" atm), is completely useless. Coupled with the stats nerf of back to T60, Obsidian armor is now both useless for the function it was originally designed for (IE best armor VS obsidian creatures), and useless function it was supposed to encourage its use (IE outside). TBH, I really don't think they should F around with Obsidian armor, that armor was designed for TzHaar creatures, so it should stay as the best armor in the game and useless elsewhere. It's not like Kiln is the hottest way to make money atm. 6,924th to 30 hunting, 13,394th to 30 summoning, 52,993rd to 30 DivinationKiln Record (Post-EoC): W 25 - L 0, 14 Uncut Onyx, 8 Jad hits received (Best record: Two in the same kiln)Obby set renewed post update #2: 0QBD drops: 21 crossbow parts, 3 Visages, 1 Kites, 2 KitsMax Port Score [2205] Achieved: 27th April 2013 (World 2nd) Farmyard Rampage ranking: 12th, 50,000 Kills. Dragon Pickaxe Drops: 1 (Times after I first entered Battlefield: 2h) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sogeking Posted May 7, 2013 Author Share Posted May 7, 2013 thx for the answers guys, sadly it was what i expexted :( Qc retrieved finally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 "Hybrid" means strong vs. two skills and weak vs. one. At least, that's how minigame hybrid armour worked."All" meant strong vs. all, but now it means medium vs. all, so it's basically meh. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levells Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 For OP and for future reference if anyone should happen to read this:http://[Use Quick Find Code]/[Please Use QuickFind Code]?15,16,896,64956336,goto,2Mod posts explaining obsidian. It gets an invisible def buff against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sogeking Posted May 9, 2013 Author Share Posted May 9, 2013 (didnt want to create a new thread since its a theme related question,kinda) ima try to do the fight klin now that i got my second fire cape. would obsidian be helpful here or should i stick with regular armour switching?i would mage with gano and armadyl staffmelee with verac and chaoticand range with karil,crystal bow probably since i doubt i'll manage to get a royal bow charged.would this armour be effective in the waves? i dnt know how much they have changed. also,is it worth it to use ss sometimes?i dont have 95 prayer so the otehr curses are out of hte list for now,but im about to get 92 prayer so.. thx in advice for answers Qc retrieved finally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenw Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Try and see if you can get Hand Cannon, it's better than Crystal bow for kiln (higher tier and the fact that nearly all ranged-weak creatures in kiln are weak to bolts, the Har-Aken magic tentacle being the only exception). I'd probably try armor switching too, though I have no idea how that will work out since It has been too long since I did kiln, and frankingly I never did kiln without obsidian armor. Soul Split is quite useful, and make sure you make good use of Restoration and constitution crystals. 6,924th to 30 hunting, 13,394th to 30 summoning, 52,993rd to 30 DivinationKiln Record (Post-EoC): W 25 - L 0, 14 Uncut Onyx, 8 Jad hits received (Best record: Two in the same kiln)Obby set renewed post update #2: 0QBD drops: 21 crossbow parts, 3 Visages, 1 Kites, 2 KitsMax Port Score [2205] Achieved: 27th April 2013 (World 2nd) Farmyard Rampage ranking: 12th, 50,000 Kills. Dragon Pickaxe Drops: 1 (Times after I first entered Battlefield: 2h) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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