Learning EoC

[The Real ET]

I'm dabbling in runescape again after about a year and a half of hiatus. I've gotten the basics of the EoC changes down and can hold my own, but I don't really understand the mechanics of everything. I've tried to look for information but after 10 years of content a lot of the information out there is out of date.

 

Is there a place out there listing all the big changes (like I think chinchompas don't give exp and dragonfire shields aren't very good?)?

 

How about a place going over what the best abilities are? I've been experimenting with them but can't really tell what is helping me do more damage.

 

And one more, more specific question. I'm killing dragons of the blue variety. I have been fire surging with a staff of light and 95 magic. But would using those new wands or anything be more effective? Is the damage decrease worth the speed? Alternatively, I have 81 range. If I were to range would a dwarf handcannon or dragonbane bolts and some kind of crossbow be a better option? Would range be better than mage due to the dragons' weakness even though I have higher mage?

 

Sorry that I'm asking a lot here, I'm just trying to get back into the game a bit and have no idea where to find some up-to-date answers.

Thanks for the help. :)

[Quyneax]

Chins give xp, you just don't get xp until you finish a kill. Dragonfire shields haven't been very good since defenders and chaotic shields :P.

 

Best abilities:

Slice, Dismember (DoT), Sever, Destroy, Assault, Slaughter (DoT), Whirlwind (AoE), Berserk

Piercing Shot, Frag Shot (DoT), Ricochet (multi), Rapid Fire, Bombard (AoE), Death's Swiftness

Wrack, Concentrated Blast, Combust (DoT), Chain (multi), Dragon Breath (melee), Asphyxiate, Wild Magic, Sunshine

 

Abilities are all three ticks (1.8 s) each, so there's no speed boost from using wands. But since conc. blast >> sonic blast, then yes, treachery + Ahrim's book > sol. Hand cannon wouldn't be very good in comparison, royal crossbow with royal bolts would be good if you needed ranged xp. Blues are so weak that weaknesses don't matter too much (if you have level 70-80+ gear).

[The Real ET]

Awesome, thanks for the response. But how can I figure this stuff out for myself? I don't want to have to always come running here if I have an equipment loadout question. :P

[Quyneax]

Eh, quite simply:

 

When looking at weapons, look only at the level they require. Higher is better, of course.

When looking at armour, look at the level and the designation: power, tank, hybrid. Generally, power > tank > hybrid. However, if you are taking too much damage, you can use tank instead.

Remember that only top, legs and shield give accuracy penalties (if you use the wrong armour with a certain weapon). You can use boots, gloves, helmets and such to focus your defence.

 

For example, when ranging a meleer, you can use magic boots/gloves/helm to boost your melee defence. Don't use power armour to boost your defence, you won't get bonus ranged damage from magic power armour.

 

The armour and weapon stats are just there to look pretty. They don't mean anything - level is all you need.

[The Real ET]

How can I tell the designation of the armour? When I look at armour I just see if it's melee, ranged, or magic.

 

And if the stats are just there to look pretty, what's the point? Is the variety of weapons and armour pointless?

[Quyneax]

If it's hybrid, it will say 'hybrid' or 'all' instead of a style.

If it's power, it will have a damage value in addition to armour and lp.

 

Yes, the variety is largely pointless. There is no difference between a primal dagger and a primal rapier, or battleaxe and longsword. You can, for the most part, ignore anything but level and attack style.

[The Real ET]

That sounds really dumb and disappointing.

[Quyneax]

Why do you think so many people disapprove of EoC (and moved to 07scape) :P?

[The Real ET]

Is that a thing? I'm so out of the loop.

[Quyneax]

There's a group of separate servers running a version of Runescape based on a 2007 backup. It's not the same as RS in 2007, as it gets updates and such, but it doesn't have EoC and it's a good bit closer to 2007 than modern RS.

[The Real ET]

Oh cool. I guess the real question is, which gets more players that aren't bots? :P

[Quyneax]

I believe that's modernscape.

[Hedgehog]

That sounds really dumb and disappointing.

Personally, I think having 8 or so weapons that are about equal is better than having exactly 1 item worth using.

[xpx]

 

That sounds really dumb and disappointing.

Personally, I think having 8 or so weapons that are about equal is better than having exactly 1 item worth using.

 

Now if only jagex could bother to actually make all the styles(and 2h/vs dual) equally effective aswell...

[Sattern]

Just to let you know if you use a range helm, body and legs for example you will receive a decrease in damage output and accuracy by roughly 25-30% when using another attack style. the same goes for magic and melee gear when using another combat style to attack.

 

Hope that helps,

 

Sattern.

[Quyneax]

Not helmets, shields are the third item that affects accuracy. Damage is not affected.

[RWH]

If you want to get good at using the combat system and getting used to rotations then Slayer is the way to go IMO. That's how I learnt, it's great practice and gets you very used to your keyboard (if you don't play other games, thus aren't used to making proper use of the keyboard).

[The Real ET]

So I was looking at power armour. How does the 10% accuracy and 5% damage boost on void armour compare to the +22 on fremeenick armours and +33 on GWD armours?

[Aiel]

the damage boost on power armor is equivalent to 10% of the damage of a weapon at that tier (IE so bandos gives 10% of a tier 70 weapon).