Militaris Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 AMD System from scan.co.uk CPU AMD Athlon 64 3200 + Socket939 ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã110.83 MotherBoard Asus A8N-E S939 ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã67.80 Memory 2GB (2X1GB) Corsair Value Select PC3200 (400) Twin Pack ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã106.40 Graphics Cards (Several options ) 256MB XFX 7900GT ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã257.33 (Cheapest) Hard Drives 200Gb SATA150 Western Digital WD2000JD Caviar SE ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã61. PSU 485W Enermax Noisetaker ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã64 Case ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã50 DVD Writers (Dual Layer) Samsung SH-W162C ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã26.54 (choose because of price) Monitor (Between ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã190-260 spare) 17ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâà Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anesthesia Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 For both future-proofing and current performance he'd be better off getting a 3700+ instead of 2GB of RAM. Some people are changed by being a moderator. I wouldn't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runesmithie Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 For both future-proofing and current performance he'd be better off getting a 3700+ instead of 2GB of RAM. Yeah, 2 gig is really overkill for games (especially the ones he said he played) I just posted something! ^_^ to the terrorist...er... kirbybeam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Militaris Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 For both future-proofing and current performance he'd be better off getting a 3700+ instead of 2GB of RAM. The performance difference between a 3200+ and a 3700+ is pretty irrelevant. For future proofing a dual core is much more appropriate. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/di ... ames2.html 2GB is becoming more of a requirement, and peoples game playing habits change with the time. Modern games are already requiring 2GB to run in high detail. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory ... b-ram.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Militaris Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 I have been thinking, it would also be possible to build a system which could easily play the two games you wanted for considerably less then the ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã1000 limit. Below are a few savings you could make, the * are the ones which I consider are worth considering. ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã50 saved if you get only 1GB of memory.* ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã5-10 If you get a smaller hard-drive. ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã64 If you prepared to take a risk you could use a case supplied PSU ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã166 if you get a 7600GT instead of a 7900GT* ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã25 if you get a cheaper motherboard.* ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã15 or so can be saved by getting a non DVD writer.* ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã25 on the CPU if you get a Sempron instead of a Athlon 64. ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã20 if you get a cheap monitor.... ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã160 if you buy a a 2nd hand 17ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâà Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anesthesia Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Out of all my friends with 2GB of RAM they say that the games they play don't end up using it and that I shouldn't bother getting it. I suggested a 3700+ over an X2 processor because the 3700+ costs ~30 more whereas the X2 processors start at DOUBLE the price of the one he had selected. My point was more than the RAM was unnecessary. On the page you linked to the gaming benchmarks showed a negligible difference between 1GB and 2GB, even with 2GB being slower sometimes - suggesting that the differences shown were not the result of the amount of RAM but external factors. Some people are changed by being a moderator. I wouldn't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahs_student Posted March 11, 2006 Author Share Posted March 11, 2006 Btw its not just games im using it for..stuff like school work, downloading music, the usualy stuff. And i dont know much about DVD writers but with it will i be able to write cds aswell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahs_student Posted March 11, 2006 Author Share Posted March 11, 2006 can someone tell me if this case is good and if no quick release fittings will be a problem? thanks http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=352344 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahs_student Posted March 11, 2006 Author Share Posted March 11, 2006 Militaris what about a soundcard on the system you posted? would this one be ok? http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=292191 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anesthesia Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Almost all motherboards come with onboard sound now. Some people are changed by being a moderator. I wouldn't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
____ Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 can someone tell me if this case is good and if no quick release fittings will be a problem? thanks http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=352344Looks like an expensive paper weight. I swear I've retyped this post about 8 times with things that are potential problems. But I'll keep and short this time... - ventilation - pci-slot interference - noise - dust intake (seems to be a lack of fliter) - weight seems to be the main issues. You'd be much better off getting a case from someone like Thermaltake, Antec or CoolMaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahs_student Posted March 11, 2006 Author Share Posted March 11, 2006 ok im thinking about this set up All is from http://www.scan.co.uk CPU AMD Athlon 64 3500 + Socket939 , Venice , 2.2 GHz , 512KB Cache, Retail ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã144.94 MotherBoard Asus A8N-E S939 ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã67.80 Memory 2GB (2X1GB) Corsair Value Select PC3200 (400) Twin Pack ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã106.40 Graphics Cards 256MB XFX 7900GT ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã257.33 Hard Drives 200Gb SATA150 Western Digital WD2000JD Caviar SE ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã61. PSU 485W Enermax Noisetaker ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã64 Speakers Altec Lansing 121i Speakers ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã16.44 Case Coolermaster Centurion RC-532 Black+Silver Trim Case w/o PSU ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã40.53 DVD Writers (Dual Layer) LiteON SHW-16H5S-05C 16x DVDÃÆââ¬Å¡ÃâñRW Dual Layer Lightscribe Black bare with S/W ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã27.85 Monitor 19" LG L1915SS Silver TFT Monitor VGA DSub 1280x1024 500:1 12ms ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã176.23 Total: ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã962.52 Post what you think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Militaris Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 I do not personally believe a sound card is necessary, there are people which swear by them, it would take a slight pressure off the CPU, and would give slightly better sound quality.... I have never brought one. The case should be fine, quite large, it should not give any problems. I would personally buy a CoolerMaster Centurion but case choice is really down to personal preference (There is a slight difference with regards to sound, cooling but nothing to worry about). Quick release, tool free set-up is nice, but unless you plan on playing around with your hardware on a regular basis it is not much of advantage. With regards to your set-up, everything should be compatible, I would do a few things differently but nothing overly significant. You might want to match the colours of your case, monitor, speaker, DVD drive and keyboards. (I have a black set-up and it shows the dust bad). From my understanding, a DVD writer would also be able to play and write CDs. I know that LiteOn is a popular choice. If you are really interested in the choice Here is a review which looks at a few of them http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/12/30/ ... ue_speeds/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahs_student Posted March 11, 2006 Author Share Posted March 11, 2006 Ok thanks for the help militaris i really appreciate it. Im just wondering i wont need to buy any seperate wires or anything will i though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Militaris Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 All wires, cables, plugs, adapters should be supplied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahs_student Posted March 12, 2006 Author Share Posted March 12, 2006 im just thinkin, this processor is only 2.2 ghz, is it better then a pentium 4 3.2 ghz? they cost around the same price :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade995 Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 im just thinkin, this processor is only 2.2 ghz, is it better then a pentium 4 3.2 ghz? they cost around the same price :? It may seem that way but AMD can out preform Intel in gaming and most other things. You can compare CPUs here. http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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