Medieval Reference/Suggestions not in Runescape

[Shadowcran]

Extremely often when I come across new threads, I see players claim that the idea is "Not Medieval enough". In an effort to either back up those claims or dispute them if they're wrong, I will list medieval weapons not currently in Runescape.

 

 

 

Remember this though: I DO NOT SUPPORT THEM ALL. I'm listing them only to be fair. The ones I DO support I will put a message afterwards saying so.

 

 

 

I also do not support Jagex mass putting in all of these at once. One at a time is fine with me. Even if the time between additions is months.

 

 

 

For reference the 'Medieval period' is 500-1550 AD. To avoid further confusion, the period is ALSO CALLED THE MIDDLE AGES.

 

 

 

Honestly, I think that Runescape shouldn't be only a 'medieval' game but also pre medieval(Roman Empire) and Renaissance. I DO NOT SUPPORT GUNS IN RS although I'm a card carrying member of the NRA. Cannons are a different matter entirely.

 

 

 

Please, no flamers or spammers. If you like a particular item in this thread, you have my permission to post a thread of your own highlighting that item complete with my information provided here.

 

 

 

I would also ask that anyone reading this thread immediately give me time to reserve some space to include all the items I want to put in. Thank you.

 

 

 

WEAPONS:

 

A RONDEL or roundel was a type of stiff-bladed dagger in Europe in the late Middle Ages (from the 14th century onwards), used by a variety of people from merchants to knights. The blade was typically long and slim, measuring 12 inches or more; the whole dagger might be as long as 20 inches. Rondel means round or circular; the dagger gets its name from its round (or similarly shaped, e.g. octagonal) hand guard and round or spherical pommel

 

 

 

*This would be a 'long knife' instead of the daggers we have now. I do NOT support as our daggers are sufficient.

 

 

 

The GUDENDAG was a Flemish medieval weapon. "Gudendag" is flemish for "Good Day". The Gudendag was based on a peasant's hammer, but proved effective against armoured knights, and was adapted in many ways, usually with [bleep]es, for extra effectiveness. By puncturing the skin, the Gudendag could be lodged in the skin for a while. Poison was also put on the [bleep]es.

 

 

 

*A smaller warhammer with poison capabilities. Sounds good too. I support this addition. It is NOT A MAUL

 

 

 

The MORNING STAR(Morgenstern or Sturmkolben in German) was a medieval weapon in the form of a [bleep]ed club resembling a mace, usually with a long [bleep]e extending straight from the top in addition to a number of smaller [bleep]es around the circumference of the head. It was used by both infantry and cavalry, and the horseman's weapon typically had a shorter haft. The mace, a traditional knightly weapon, developed somewhat independently, becoming all metal with heads of various forms, while the morning star retained its characteristic [bleep]es, with a shaft generally made of wood and often found in longer two-handed forms measures.

 

 

 

*A mace with a longer reach basically. It IS NOT A FLAIL NOR IS IT A MACE. A flail is two sticks, a mace is just a [bleep]ed ball on a stick. A morning star is a [bleep]ed ball with a cord giving it a longer reach and ability to be swung and gain momentun. I support this addition.

 

 

 

POLEARMS:

 

 

 

The term LANCE has become a catchall for a variety of different pole weapons based on the spear. The name is derived from lancea, Roman auxiliaries' short javelin. The lance, under many names, was also heavily employed in the Asian steppe. In the strictest sense, the lance is a heavy, long thrusting spear used on horseback and couched under the arm on one hand. Often, any spear which is not thrown (e.g. a thrusting spear) is called a lance when used from horseback.

 

 

 

*After further research, I discovered a smaller footman's lance that could be adapted to RS. Forget the horse one though. I Still DO NOT SUPPORT.

 

 

 

A PIKE is a pole weapon once used extensively by infantry principally as a counter-measure against cavalry assaults. Pikes were extremely long weapons, carried by infantry and resembled a spear between 10 and 14 feet (3 and 4 meters) long. These eventually grew in size both in shaft and head length; the longest pikes could exceed 22 feet (6 meters) in length. The extreme length of this weapon requires a strong wood such as ash for the pole, which is often reinforced with two strips of steel running down the sides.

 

 

 

*Again, since we don't have horses this might not be a good idea. BUt I included it anyway. I DO NOT support this.

 

 

 

RANGED:

 

 

 

A BOMBARD is a type of medieval cannon or mortar, used chiefly in sieges for throwing heavy stone balls. The modern term bombardment derives from this.

 

 

 

A notable example of a bombard is the large Mons Meg weapon, built around 1449 and used by King James II of Scotland. Mons Meg was capable of firing 180 kg (396 lbs) shots and was one of the largest bombards ever built. It is now housed on public display at Edinburgh Castle.

 

 

 

*Only use I see for this is of course, Castle Wars. That would be the only place I would support it except for castle decorations.(Not your own POH though)

 

 

 

A CULVERIN is a medieval cannon of relatively long barrel and light construction that fired 18-pound solid round shot projectiles at long ranges along a flat trajectory. Round shot refers to the classic solid spherical cannonball. The culverin was adapted for use by the French in the 15th century, and later adapted for naval use by the English in the late 16th century.

 

 

 

I would only support this in Castle Wars or if my pirate idea comes to fruition.

 

 

 

The ARBALEST was a late variation of the medieval European crossbow. A larger weapon, the arbalest had a steel prod ("bow". Since an arbalest was much larger than earlier crossbows, and because of the greater tensile strength of steel, it had a greater force. A skilled arbalestier could shoot two bolts per minute. Arbalests were sometimes considered inhumane or unfair weapons, since an inexperienced crossbowman could use one to kill a knight who had a lifetime of training. Strongest windlass-pulled arbalests could have up to 5000 lb strength and be accurate up to 500 m.

 

 

 

This would make the crossbow attractive again. We can upgrade them with mith, addy and rune..perhaps dragon. I Wholeheartedly support this.

 

 

 

A SLING is a projectile weapon typically used to throw a blunt missile such as a stone. It is also known as the shepherd's sling. The sling is not to be confused with the slingshot, which works on completely different principles.

 

 

 

*why we don't have this yet is beyond me. They've been around since forever. I do Support this

 

 

 

SIEGE:

 

 

 

Aa BATTERING RAM is a siege engine originating in ancient times to break open fortification walls or doors.

 

 

 

In its simplest form, a battering ram is just a large, heavy log carried by several people and propelled with force against an obstacle, the momentum of the ram being sufficient to damage the target.

 

 

 

*Castle Wars only will I support.

 

 

 

The BALLISTA(Latin, from Greek ballistēs, from ballein "to throw", plural ballistae) was a powerful ancient weapon, similar to a giant crossbow, which ejected heavy darts or spherical stone projectiles of various sizes. It is considered to be the most complex weapon made before the Industrial Revolution and the only pre-industrial weapon to be designed scientifically.

 

 

 

*Again, castle wars only

 

 

 

A SIEGE HOOK is a weapon used to pull stones from a wall during a siege.

 

 

 

*Castle Wars..again

 

 

 

A SIEGE TOWER is a specialized siege engine, constructed to protect assailants and ladders while approaching the defensive walls of a fortification. The tower was often rectangular with four wheels and a height roughly equal to that of the wall or sometimes higher to allow archers to stand on top of the tower and fire into the fortification.

 

 

 

*castle wars only will I support.

 

 

 

A Trebuc©het or also sometimes called a trebucket (IP*: is a medieval siege engine, a weapon employed either to batter masonry or to throw projectiles over walls.

 

 

 

*castle wars only will I support.

 

 

 

GREEK FIRE(also called Byzantine fire, wildfire and liquid fire, Greek Fire was a weapon used by the Byzantine Empire. It was invented by a Greek Syrian in about 673 AD. It was employed in naval battles to great effect as it could continue burning even under water. "Byzantine fire" was largely responsible for many Byzantine military victories.

 

 

 

*Castle wars and my pirate idea only will I support.

 

 

 

WARSHIPS:

 

 

 

 

 

A galleon was a large, multi-decked sailing ship used primarily by the nations of Europe from the 16th to 18th centuries. Whether used for war or commerce, they were generally armed with cannons.

 

 

 

Galleons were an evolution of the caravel and carrack (or nao), for the new great ocean going voyages. A lowering of the forecastle and elongation of the hull gave an unprecedented level of stability in the water, and reduced wind resistance at the front, leading to a faster, more maneuverable vessel. The galleon differed from the older types primarily by being longer, lower and narrower, with a square tuck stern instead of a round tuck, and by having a snout or head projecting forward from the bows below the level of the forecastle. In Portugal at least, carracks were usually very large ships for their time (often over 1000 tons), while galleons were mostly under 500 tons, although the Manila galleons were to reach up to 2000 tons. Carracks tended to be lightly armed and used for transporting booty from the Far East, while galleons were purpose-built warships, and were stronger, more heavily armed, and also cheaper to build (5 galleons could cost around the same as 3 carracks) and were therefore a much better investment for use as warships

 

 

 

**This can include ALL types of wooden ships. I support this for my pirate idea.

 

 

 

The term GALLEY can refer to any ship propelled primarily by man-power, using oars. Most galleys also use masts and sails as a secondary means of propulsion

 

 

 

*um..i feel these are a little 'before' our times. Do not support.

 

 

 

Longships were ships primarily used by the Scandinavian Vikings and the Saxons for their raids on coastal and inland settlements during the European Middle ages. The longships were also used for long distance trade and commerce and were used for exploration missions to Iceland, Greenland, and beyond

 

 

 

*we actually already have these..sort of. I do support.

 

 

 

Baselard: A knife or short sword bearing a hilt in the shape of the letter T, originating in southern Germany during the late 13th century. It quickly became the weapon of choice for many footsoldiers.

 

 

 

*Also known as a sword breaker. I do support.

 

 

 

Bas©tard Sword: The modern word for a hand and a half sword. These blades, popular during the 15th century, were generally between 44" & 50" in length, but featured an extended handle that allowed the blade to be used in two hands, although it was short enough to wield one handed if required.

 

 

 

*Yes, I do support.

 

 

 

Broadsword: The general two-edged blade popular from the 6th century onward. Ranging in length from 30" to 42" in length, the average sword weighs only three to four pounds. Light enough to be used as a fighting tool all day, yet heavy enough to impart crushing impact along the edge, which was rarely sharpened. The weapons works by concentrating the force of the blow, the knight and the mass of the horse into the thin edge, often left to a thickness of between 1/16" - 1/8". The thickness at the center was between 3/16" and 1/4", and the blade generally started out from between 2-3" wide at the base and tapered gently to a point.

 

 

 

*while not technically our two handed swords, I still say ours are enough. I DO NOT support.

 

 

 

Claymore: The large two-handed swords popular in Scotland during the 15th, 16th and even the 17th centuries. Ranging in length from 50" to 72", they possessed handles that were 18" - 21" in length. Overall the swords weighed only six or seven pounds, although there are examples that are as much as ten pounds. These swords were popular also in Germany and in the Swiss states during the 15th and 16th centuries, although the term Claymore seems to have been restricted to Scotland. The term two-handed sword or greatsword seems more popular on the continent.

 

 

 

*Again, while not a two handed sword like we have. Ours is enough. I DO NOT support.

 

 

 

Falchion: A short, heavy, broad-bladed sword with a single edge, bearing a similarity to a heavy scimitar.

 

 

 

*I do support.

 

 

 

Gladius: The short thrusting sword of the Romans, developed originally in bronze but more effective in the later iron examples. These blades were short yet a little heavy, designed both for thrusting and for cutting in close-in combat. The gladius was modified for horseback into another, longer sword, the spatha, to which medieval swords owe most of their design qualities.

 

*SInce this resembles our short sword we already have. I DO NOT support.

 

 

 

The sabre (or saber) traces its origins to the European backsword and usually but not always has a curved, single-edged blade and a rather large hand guard, covering the knuckles of the hand as well as the thumb and forefinger.

 

*I do Support

 

 

 

A rapier is a relatively slender (blade 2.5 centimetres or less in width), sharply pointed sword with a blade at least 90 centimetres in length, often sporting an elaborate hilt and hand-guard.

 

*I do support. Could lead to a cavalier class.

 

 

 

A wakizashi (ÃÆÃâÃâ Ã¢â¬â¢|ÃÆââ¬Å¡ÃâòÃÆÃâÃâî, Kanji for "side arm" is a traditional Japanese sword with a *****ÃÆââ¬Å¡ÃâèÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâí blade between 12 and 24 inches, similar to but shorter than a katana and sometimes longer than the kodachi

 

*support

 

The katana (ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâõ*) is the Japanese backsword or longsword (ÃÆââ¬Å¡ÃâôÃÆÃâÃâóÃÆââ¬Å¡ÃâõÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâö daitÃÆââ¬Å¡ÃâèÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâí) of the type specifically in use after the 1400s (following the use of the tachi), although in Japanese this word serves generically as a catch-all word for sword.

 

 

 

Naginata (ÃÆââ¬Å¡ÃâäÃÆÃâÃâ¦Ã ÃÆââ¬Å¡ÃâäÃÆââ¬Å¡ÃâîÃÆââ¬Å¡ÃâäÃÆÃâÃâ¦Ã ÃÆââ¬Å¡ÃâäÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâÿ, ÃÆÃâÃâéLÃÆââ¬Å¡ÃâõÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâö or ÃÆÃââââ¬Ã¹SÃÆââ¬Å¡ÃâõÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâö) is a pole weapon traditionally used by Japanese samurai. It has become associated with women, and in modern Japan, it is studied by women more than men.

 

 

 

The bill (also bill hook or bill-guisarme) was, in the 15th and 16th Centuries, the main close combat weapon of English infantry. Descended from agricultural billhooks and the pollaxe, the bill was a chopping blade with several [bleep]ing projections mounted on a staff of six or seven feet

 

 

 

Spatha: The cavalry sword of the romans, between 36" - 40" in length, made from iron. The shape of the hilt is unknown to us, as only a few blades have survived. These blades can easily be confused with their Medieval counterparts, which were of approximately the same length and shape. The Roman footsoldier wielded a much shorter chopping and thrusting sword called the gladius.

 

*Do not support.

 

 

 

A flamberge is a sword (typically a rapier, though there were longswords as well) with a wavy blade, which, although beautiful to look at, also serves a practical function. When parrying with the blade, it can cause a series of unpleasant vibrations which can disrupt the technique of anyone who isn't correctly prepared. The name isn't entirely correct as it is a modern term for the form, and as such it is more properly called a "flambard" or "flammard".

 

 

 

 

 

Also, a Flamberge is a large ZweihÃÆÃâÃâänder, a two-handed sword most commonly known from the Landsknechts of the 16th century and it, too, has a wavy blade. However its purpose was mostly for knocking away enemy pike- and spearheads (cutting of the heads is very hard as most had langets, strips of steel to protect them from just that) and chopping up the enemy hiding behind it, unlike the rapier which were more often used for personal combat than the battlefield. There is an area between the hilt and blade called the ricasso which can be used as a prolonged grip, which sometimes were wired with leather and had small protruding hooks called Parierhaken, meaning, literally: parrying-hooks

 

 

 

Ringmail, or according to purists, ring armour, is a form of body armour, closely related to scale armour. It consists of separate metal rings affixed to a foundation of leather or cloth. It is debated whether it was ever used in Medieval Europe, despite some reasons to believe it was.

 

 

 

In the 16th century in Europe a type of armour called an eyelet doublet began to be used. It can be classified as a type of ring armour. It was called "Schiessjoppe" in German.

 

 

 

*I do support

 

 

 

Scale armour (sometimes erroneously called scale mail) consists of many small scales.

 

 

 

The material used to make the plates include bronze, iron, rawhide, leather, boiled leather, horn and even the scales of animals.

 

 

 

There are many different methods of construction:

 

 

 

Lamellar armour consists of scales laced together.

 

A brigandine consists of scales riveted onto a backing of leather or cloth.

 

A jack of plate consists of scales sewn onto a backing of leather or cloth.

 

During Roman times scale armour (lorica squamata) was a very popular alternative to mail (lorica hamata) as it offered better protection, especially against blunt damage. It was also very popular in Middle Eastern empires such as Persia and Byzantium where scales were commonly dished (armouring term used to describe hammering a depression into a flat piece of metal in order to create a 'bowl' effect, as seen in the elbow and knee cops of the European Middle Ages) in order to benefit from the extra protection offered by a rounded scale.

 

 

 

Historically, scales for such armour have been made of leather, bronze, iron, or steel; the use of a given material influenced primarily by the time period, geography, and purpose of the armour.

 

 

 

The Byzantine-style lamellar corset is called klibanion. It was often worn over mail, or with limb protectors made from metal splints. Sometimes a quilted surcoat (epilorikion) was worn over klibanion.

 

 

 

*I do support.

 

 

 

Helmets:

 

 

 

Armet is the name of a type of helm developed in the 15th century, most likely in Italy. It was distinguished by being the first helm of its era to completely enclose the head while being compact and light enough to move with the wearer. The typical armet consisted of four pieces: the skull, the two cheek plates, and the visor.

 

 

 

*honestly, this sounds too much like our medium helms. I do NOT support.

 

 

 

An aventail is a flexible curtain of chainmail on a helmet, that extends to cover the neck and shoulders. The mail could be removed for cleaning or storage, and attached to the helm through use of a leather cord that was threaded through brass rings at the edge of the helm. Aventails were most commonly seen on bascinets in the 14th century and served as a replacement for a mail coif. Some aventails were decorated with edging in brass or bronze links, or dagged edges.

 

 

 

*Yes, I do support adding this to our current helms for better defense.

 

 

 

A barbute is a visorless war helmet of fifteenth century Italian design, often with distinctive "T" shaped or "Y" shaped opening for the eyes and mouth. The barbute resembles classical Greek helmets and may have been influenced by a renewed interest in ancient artifacts.

 

 

 

*nah. we don't need except for decoration purposes or something.

 

 

 

The bascinet was a Medieval European open-faced military helmet, typically fitted with an aventail and hinged visor. It evolved from the cervelliere.

 

 

 

The term is also written as bassinet or basinet

 

 

 

*This helm is too close to our full helms except with this one you can't hardly turn your head to see. DO NOT SUPPORT.

 

 

 

A hauberk is a shirt of mail armour. The term is usually used to describe a shirt reaching at least to mid-thigh and including sleeves. Haubergeon ("little hauberk" generally refers to a shorter variant with partial sleeves, but the terms are often used interchangeably.[1] ***** to accommodate horseback-riding are often incorporated below the waist. Most are put on over the head. Mail is a flexible cloth made of interlocking metal rings. Hauberk can also refer to a similar garment of scale armour.

 

 

 

*since we don't have horses, this would be useless. Do Not support.

 

 

 

The lorica segmentata was a type of armour primarily used in the Roman Empire, but the Latin name was first used in the 16th century (the ancient form is unknown). The armour itself consist of broad ferrous (iron or steel) strips ('girth hoops') fastened to internal leather straps. The strips were arranged horizontally on the body, overlapping downwards, and they surrounded the torso in two halves, being fastened at the front and back. The upper body and shoulders were protected by additional strips ('shoulder guards') and ******- and backplates. The form of the armour allowed it to be stored very compactly, since it was possible to separate it into four sections. During the time of its use, it was modified several times, the currently recognised types being the Kalkriese (c. 20 B.C. to A.D. 50), Corbridge (c. A.D. 40 to A.D. 120), and Newstead (c. A.D. 120 to 250) types.

 

 

 

So far as is known, only legionaries (heavy infantry of the Roman Legions) and Praetorians were issued with the lorica segmentata. Auxiliary forces would more commonly wear the Lorica hamata which is mail (frequently called chainmail) or Lorica squamata (scale armour).

 

 

 

It fell out of use during the 3rd century A.D., but similar armouring techniques were used during the 16th century, employing sliding rivets and this was known as Anima.

 

 

 

*Ok, this at least would be different. Supported.

 

 

 

Maximilian armour is a modern term applied to the style of early 16th century armour apparently first made for the Emperor Maximilian I. Maximillian probably used it himself when he was a young prince and presumably presented it to his uncle Sigmund[1]. The armour is characterized by armets and close helmets with bellows visors, small fan-shaped narrow and parallel fluting often covering most of the harness (but never the greaves), etching, work taken from woodcuts and sharply waisted cuirasses and squared sabatons.

 

 

 

*This might be a better plate armor type for the future(1 or 2 years down the line in RS). I do support.

 

 

 

The O-Yoroi (also called yoroi) is a prominent example Japanese armor. The term ̮̫̉̉-yoroi means "great armor."[1] For the most part the O-Yoroi was a rich mans armor and not used by lower ranking samurai. O-Yoroi first started to appear in the 10th century during the middle and late Heian period, and came into widespread use in the Gempei Wars around the 12th centuries when the call for armor was at its peak. Significant aspects of this armor were designed for cavalry archers, so the armor fell out of favor in the fifteenth century when samurai shifted to mostly infantry tactics.[2]

 

 

 

Do-Maru or "body wrap," was a type of medieval armor which first started to appear in Japan in the 11th Century, as a lower class armor for footsoldiers. Like the O-yoroi style it became more common in the Genpei War at the end of the 12th century.

 

 

 

There were quite a number of similar styles and types of Japanese armor; the dō-maru is particularly defined by the absence of a solid breastplate or sleeves, and that the armor wraps around the body rather than being put on in sections.

 

 

 

Do-Maru were constructed from small scales of leather or metal laced into plates with cord and lacquered. Then each plate where laced together to form the armor.

 

 

 

*For both of these I'll support but only if oriental weapons come too.

[eyehawk78]

wow thats (OFF TOPIC: why cant i say thats on runescape?!) a long post do you have any idea where these would fit in the weapon power ranking? i.e dragon is better than rune which is better than adamant etc?

[Lord_K]

I really like some ideas, especially castle wars becoming like some massive siege, the tunnels that exist could be completely filled in and just becoming sapping spots where you could mine your way to the enemy base. Many of the ideas you have suggested could be done, but a large amount would probably have to be scrapped. I do like the idea of rapiers and sabres, considering the additions of fencing rings and looking at the Warriors GuildMaster.

 

 

 

Armours like lamellar could be made to give less range bonus than dragon hide but more defence possibly. And I like the idea of lorica, though I'm not sure how it could be implemented game wise, though looking at the dragon set (minus the legs), it does look sort of like a fantisised roman armour set, with the chain being the lighter hamata, the closest thing we have so far.

 

 

 

The bastard sword idea could be eaisly implemented and is a good one, being able to switch from a single to double handed weapon. I don't know much about eastern history but, with the two easterners being added to the warriors Guild, I wouldn't say this is unlikely.

 

 

 

Nice to see solid, historically backed facts, backed up by justified opinions, great job!

[Shadowcran]

Yes, I worked hard researching these. As for Castle Wars siege equipment, if they're added then so should Castle improvements: Murder holes, moats, boiling oil, etc.(ooo..I just got a picture of someone assailing the walls and getting set on fire with boiling oil . knowing my luck I'll be the first one that falls victim to this.lol ).

 

 

 

As for the rapier? I think the new Defender is basically that under another name. Either that or a cross between rapier and baselard.

 

 

 

As for power, I couldn't include that as the post is already mega huge as it is. I also omitted about 50 items from the list, mostly shield and helmet designs.

 

 

 

But if you read this and want a particular historical favorite added to the selection, simply say so and I'll do the research and the adaption to RS purposes.

[hockpeeps]

I think that your ideas for pikes and morningstars are good and could easly be addtions to the various metals we have now such as a Bronze pike or a addy morningstar and the tip of hte pick would be hte part made from bars.

 

 

 

oh and ru a member?

[Shadowcran]

Yes, I'm a member.

[Dingo]

Yes I can see how you would like RS to become a little more historically correct, but it really can't get all too specific. The idea of seiges, nice, but adding all of those weapons in on it, I really don't think it would be too good of an idea. As far as anyone WOULD care in this game, they would say that a MACE is a MORNINGSTAR. Which isn't all too correct. But you must also remember that this is a Fantasy game, which means that they could add anything they come up with out of their heads. I'd say this idea would get a 3/5 from me. It just really doesn't need too be that accurate.

[Shadowcran]

I clearly stated that I do not support all these ideas. I also clearly stated I didn't want to see them all come in at same time. I also clearly stated that this is a pick and choose. You pick which ones you like and which ones you don't like.

[shade_bandyt]

i think runescape is, and should be, more fantasy-based than medievally correct. there are other games that do excellent jobs of being historically accurate, but you dont have things like fantasy beasts and magics and the other things that make runescape so cool

 

 

 

the reason why fantasy rpgs often coincide with middle-age era is because that was the time when there were lots of superstitions and people were mystified by knowledge rather than saw it as a tool. there was a lot of politics behind keeping the peasants in stupor, and the powerful would make up insane stories about exploits and adventures that the average person would actually think to be true, and developed these ideas and mythologies based on somebody's idea of what an exciting sea trip or war would be like

 

 

 

after the rennaisance, people opened their eyes and gradually got over the fantasy stories, but because they were so vivid and appealing they still have a lot of fans to this day.

 

 

 

i think runescape is better being fantasy based and not accurate to the history of medieval times

[Shadowcran]

Extremely often when I come across new threads, I see players claim that the idea is "Not Medieval enough". In an effort to either back up those claims or dispute them if they're wrong, I will list medieval weapons not currently in Runescape.

 

 

 

That's the first paragraph from this thread. Maybe I should have said 'EVERY SINGLE TIME' instead of extremely often. Players flame threads due to the not medieval enough reasoning.

[n0va_th3ta]

thank goodness for diablo 2! It has all these :D But anyways I totally support u, WE LUV MEDIEVAL PWN4G3!!!

[Biggieg333]

Good, another History Buff. I support the ones you support, and the don't support the ones you don't. And on a quick note, you said that a "morning Star" was like a ball on a rope. Well, a flail is basically the same thing. I believe that you can look at most flails and see [bleep]es of which could be poisoned. Morning Star has same characteristics. Just a thought.

[Shadowcran]

I honestly thought the same as you which prompted me to look up the morningstar and flail. What we have in RS now is technically a MORNINGSTAR not a flail. A flail really is two sticks tied together by a cord.

[Zonorhc]

The current equipment we have right now can be used for abstraction as any other piece of broadly equivalent equipment in history.

 

 

 

The thing we really need is different graphics for the same pieces of equipment.

 

 

 

In my opinion, the graphics for some things should be modified, since a scimitar REALLY doesn't look the way Runescape portrays it, nor does platemail or kite shields. Heck, the visors on the full helms aren't exactly well-executed.