Protect from ... and ... !! Andmaybesomeotherprayeridea's!

[evildestruction]

Wonder if you can quess it, anyone who fought the KQ should know what im meaning.

 

 

 

Who dont know, its about like the KQ has using 2 protect prayers(at once), instead of 1.

 

 

 

Now it would just be all available combinations of protection prayers, not being more then 2 different ones, having 3 in 1 seems a little too unfair, except if on a EXTREMELY, high prayer level.

 

 

 

Now the levers of the Protect from ... and ... should be around 60-70, or a little less then 60.

 

 

 

And maybe some other prayer idea's, if any are suggested.

 

[And if there's a topic about this somewhere, i could not find any in search.]

 

 

 

-------Other idea's-------

 

[by me]

 

[Protect other from ...]

 

Protect another player from something[magic

 

,range , or melee.

 

Would be fun... hehe :twisted: . Also good teamwork.

 

Would go after the lvl52 prayer somewhere, since your not helping yourself anyway, but a friend, would work like doing a magic spell.

 

And would not be able to use on a player if he/she has a prayer on, and if the player would activate a prayer while this was in effect, your prayer would be either canceled, or maybe it would team up in 1? like my other idea of 2 in 1? or a 50% chance of 1 of the 2 happening.

 

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[i will credit people for there idea's.]

 

 

 

---NOTES---

 

Im not often on forum lately, too busy with all kinds of stuf!

 

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[sligo]

I've thought before that being able to stack the protection prayers would be cool, but that would defeat the purpose of having multi-attack mode monsters. The purpose of having these types of monsters (and not having stacking prayers) is to make these tough monsters more challenging. Even if you have all 99's, you are still vulnerable. There is no "God" mode in the game and that's the way it should be.

 

 

 

- Sligo

[evildestruction]

Well... why not make the prayers UNABLE in such zones where monsters have such?

 

Would be a good reason to train prayer trough, to beat such strong monsters more easily.

 

If this idea will be done, its up to jagex, but prayer really needs a reason to be trained(after that protect from melee, and any other usefull prayers).

[sligo]

I'm inclined to agree with you that there needs to be more higher level prayer spells - if nothing else than to give an incentive to train toward them. I wasn't real thrilled with the ones they added a few months ago.

 

 

 

Perhaps the stacked protections are weaker - i.e. 50% protection instead of 100% protection? I could agree to something like this.

 

 

 

- Sligo

[evildestruction]

Hmm, maybe, maybe around something like 70%, for monsters, like, 40% for players?

 

Would love to use a protect other on for example, my sis if she's in trouble, or someone else, if they are in trouble, good use to rescue players, and aid friends.[going to edit suggestion of mine, about protect other]

[sligo]

You know, I do like the "protect other" idea. Think of what this would do when hunting tough monsters like steel dragons. You go in with a friend who stocks up on prayer pots while you stock up on anti-fire pots. He keeps you protected from melee while you maintain your protection from fire. My guess here is that you'd be able to triple or even quadruple the number of dragons you can kill before having to go and bank.

 

 

 

- Sligo

[evildestruction]

What teamwork can do then, if they do this update!

 

Hmmm... handy for castlewars too!

 

And so much more!

[sligo]

Just read another thread in this area asking about a "stealth" skill. Though I don't think a new skill on this would be useful, but adding a "stealth" spell to prayer would be cool. And it would provide a true incentive to get your prayer skill up. Here's how it would work:

 

 

 

(Level 65 spell): You activate the spell and your image and dot becomes invisible to other players.

 

 

 

But wait! This spell costs you 1 prayer per 2 seconds of activation.

 

 

 

But wait! If another player's current prayer level is higher than your prayer level, they can SEE you!

 

 

 

One caveat: This spell can't be used if you are in castle wars and are carrying a flag.

 

 

 

Another caveat: This spell has no affect on NPC's and monsters.

 

 

 

One more caveat: If you say anything (in open chat), it immediately de-activates the spell.

 

 

 

Application: Treasure trail hunting in the wilderness... Need I say more?

 

 

 

- Sligo

[EYOWAREYA]

As long as they remove prayers from wild and castle wars.

[evildestruction]

Good... but 1 point drain per 2 sec seems... a little much.

 

or atleast, too fast drain,why not as fast drain as like, protect from melee?

 

maybe it should make the player transparant? if the drain will be fast.

[Minoture]

Could you have possibly missed the last part of EYOWAREYA's post?

 

 

 

Don't like the "Protect Other" prayer, it should be a spell.

 

Prayer's are used on one's self, spells are cast on items and other people.

 

 

 

Stackables me no liky, takes away too many PKing strategies and things that make the Kalphite QUeen and other NPC's special.

 

 

 

ALTHOUGH- More prayers would be very nice, maybe something about the "Ultimate" category for strength, attack, and defence, or possibly something for magic and ranged?

[sligo]

The key here is their mini-map dot is gone. That's the main "alert" for pk-ers. This spell will help, but it's no guarantee because they may still be able to see you.

 

 

 

As for the speed of the drain, well, that's debatable. Just as long it's not so slow that a player with 65 prayer and a couple prayer pots can walk from one corner of the wilderness to the other with the spell on the entire time.

 

 

 

- Sligo

[evildestruction]

The drain being as fast as protect from melee does should be fine, i think, its only a dot gone from the map anyway, and pkers do tend to look in every direction when not looking straight forward to attack, same with people trying to avoid them.

[evildestruction]

Could you have possibly missed the last part of EYOWAREYA's post?

 

 

 

Don't like the "Protect Other" prayer, it should be a spell.

 

Prayer's are used on one's self, spells are cast on items and other people.

 

 

 

Stackables me no liky, takes away too many PKing strategies and things that make the Kalphite QUeen and other NPC's special.

 

 

 

ALTHOUGH- More prayers would be very nice, maybe something about the "Ultimate" category for strength, attack, and defence, or possibly something for magic and ranged?

 

 

 

Then MAYBE make them unusable in certain area's, or vs certain monsters.

 

But having prayers doing this, would give the skill more attention, and teamwork would have new stuff, i dont really see much disatvantages of it, when having 2 prayers defending you, you still have 1 weakness left, cant have all 3 on at same time anyway.

[Minoture]

Stelth seems like a prayer Jagex would put in, considering the last 3 were mainly wilderness and dueling prayers.

 

 

 

Completely support Stealth prayer, makes more sence then creating a whole new skill for it.

[evildestruction]

Yeah, lol, 1 skill with 1 thing,waste of time creating it and calling it a skill WITH 1 THING.

 

ah, going to logoff for now, having lets say.. dinner? my type of dinner, bread with lots of those choclate things(no idea how to call em in english).

 

maybe later back on, but as my sig says, not often online here.

[Justin_Blacknight]

Just read another thread in this area asking about a "stealth" skill. Though I don't think a new skill on this would be useful, but adding a "stealth" spell to prayer would be cool. And it would provide a true incentive to get your prayer skill up. Here's how it would work:

 

 

 

(Level 65 spell): You activate the spell and your image and dot becomes invisible to other players.

 

 

 

But wait! This spell costs you 1 prayer per 2 seconds of activation.

 

 

 

But wait! If another player's current prayer level is higher than your prayer level, they can SEE you!

 

 

 

One caveat: This spell can't be used if you are in castle wars and are carrying a flag.

 

 

 

Another caveat: This spell has no affect on NPC's and monsters.

 

 

 

One more caveat: If you say anything (in open chat), it immediately de-activates the spell.

 

 

 

Application: Treasure trail hunting in the wilderness... Need I say more?

 

 

 

- Sligo

 

 

 

I remember that thread, I suggested it. But WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY YOUR IDEA BACK THERE?!?!?!? Your version of the "Stealth Prayer" is way better than the other ppls. I think I just abandoned my idea of a "Stealth skill" and agree with you. It's an awesome idea, because it satisfies both sides of the argument. we should really approach jagex on this, because your idea is sounding better than mine.

[Cool1]

Overpowered. Although the prayer skill should have more stuff over lvl 52. Not this junk though.

[Justin_Blacknight]

Overpowered. Although the prayer skill should have more stuff over lvl 52. Not this junk though.

 

 

 

 

 

Why not?? Great ideas!!!1 U just dont want prayer noobs like me finally gaining real power.

[Minoture]

Prayer levels have beencome disadvantages since they add to combat level. A person with 1 prayer could EASILY overpower someone with 42 prayer if they were the same combat levels. Same goes for a 43 prayer facing a 99 prayer. Pures don't raise prayer because it adds to many combat levels. Truth is prayer needs to have some new advantages so that it can actually contribute to combat and not just raise the combat level.

[Guest AshKaYu]

Justin, if you can fight the KQ at lvl 1 str/atk/def/10 hp, and live for more then three minutes, with your prayer, that is overpowered.

 

 

 

And protect other from . .. wasn't made up by you.

[Minoture]

I DON"T think tehre should be a protect other prayer,

 

I DO NOT think there should be a Protect from ___ and ___ prayer.

 

I DO think there should be a stealth prayer.

 

I DO think there should be stronger prayers.

[Justin_Blacknight]

Justin, if you can fight the KQ at lvl 1 str/atk/def/10 hp, and live for more then three minutes, with your prayer, that is overpowered.

 

 

 

And protect other from . .. wasn't made up by you.

 

 

 

I'm not saying you should only hav 1 atck str and def, I'm saying prayer should be more powerful. I have 47 str 45 atck and 37 def, and all 40 lvls in prayer aren't doing crap. I mean sure, protection from ranged has saved my skin out in the wildy a few times, but really prayer is only good against monsters and NPC's.

[Justin_Blacknight]

I DON"T think tehre should be a protect other prayer,

 

I DO NOT think there should be a Protect from ___ and ___ prayer.

 

I DO think there should be a stealth prayer.

 

I DO think there should be stronger prayers.

 

 

 

 

 

I really think there should be better prayers. I mean, with these current prayers, what's the point in spending a week-month to get your prayer to 43+??

 

 

 

Prayer is too much an underated skill. I mean in real RPG games you have more than "Warior, Ranger, Mage". You have like 20 classes, and 1,000+ different ways to play them. You have Clerics, who use "prayer" to heal and summon and curse. You have Paladins who bless weapons and boost stats. You have Druids who shapeshift and attack with the elements. And those are the "prayer" oriented classes alone...

[Guest AshKaYu]

I DON"T think tehre should be a protect other prayer,

 

I DO NOT think there should be a Protect from ___ and ___ prayer.

 

I DO think there should be a stealth prayer.

 

I DO think there should be stronger prayers.

 

 

 

 

 

I really think there should be better prayers. I mean, with these current prayers, what's the point in spending a week-month to get your prayer to 43+??

 

 

 

Prayer is too much an underated skill. I mean in real RPG games you have more than "Warior, Ranger, Mage". You have like 20 classes, and 1,000+ different ways to play them. You have Clerics, who use "prayer" to heal and summon and curse. You have Paladins who bless weapons and boost stats. You have Druids who shapeshift and attack with the elements. And those are the "prayer" oriented classes alone...

 

 

 

I also think that Prayer should be it's own combat class, but I doubt RS will change any time soon. Blackbane made a good post about that somewhere. . .