solution to the macro problem

[inner_breed]

I have come up with a solution to the macro problem. As many of you may no, macroers are flooding up all over f2p (there are about 10 people at each yew tree spawn per world, and over 100 at the willows near lumbridge on each world.) Not to mention the ess mine and other places like the mining guild. Well anyway, the simplest solution would be to make a random event that can't be scripted.

 

 

 

A few notes. The most popular macro programs use a system of finding random events by their colors. If the color code apears, the software recognises this and sets in a new script to act accordingly. Eventually people find every color posible for a random event, and program a script that acts acording to every posibility.

 

 

 

The only really posible way to fix this is to create a non color detectable random. They need to make a random event that changes randomly, so it cannot be detected.

 

 

 

What I propose is a new random called the magic blob or something, that apears randomly and always in a different color. The item it gives you also will be a different color, and thereby removing any possible way of detection.

 

 

 

This would eliminate almost every macroer instantly (some will still run the script and pray they don't get the random). Although it won't remove the problem, jagex can make other randoms that make you type in a randomly generated word (jibberish) or do something else that is randomly generated.

 

 

 

Hereby, this is the only real way to avoid these scripts. They all have anti randoms built into them, and the only way to beat them is a randomizer.

 

 

 

 

 

side note, java has a randomizer function incase you are wondering, and it is very easy to make a randomly generated color.

[cotamatias]

Very optemistic. I think it will slow, or hurt them. You can never get rid of ALL of them. Even a majority.

[tha_boas]

1Ãâûkeep angle at same point

 

2Ãâûrecord the path you need to do when you auto

 

3Ãâûeach change to the 'layout' of the path will make your autoer react

 

 

 

...and so on (you all need to program it ofcourse)

 

 

 

Anyway, the autoers you are talking about are OLD to be honest

 

Nowadays most use autoers with image-recognisation rather then color-recognisation

 

 

 

....So your fancy blob would need to change forms dramaticaly to...

 

 

 

Just make sure your autoer recognizes the blob by each angle (fairly easie) and then make him react on it ... wont really stop them ... maybe a few but surely not over 3/4

[darkblade986]

To the idea of the Color Changing Blob, that would be easy to program... sorta. Tell the computer to output 3 random numbers, 0 through 255 and set those as the blob's main color in order of Red - Blue - Green. That's like 16 million different combinations.

[Minoture]

One way to hide it would make it appear to be someone with full rune on, or some random person just walking around.

[Jake_Corsair]

I'm not sure how this would work, but what I had thought about was instead of a multiple choice type question, why not something that had to be typed in.

 

 

 

Much the same way that challenge clues are, where it either asks for the answer to a math problem, or some answer to runescape trivia question. I don't know anything about how autoers code, but would it be able to input an actual amount or text?

[drgnrider]

you know how when you sign up for an email acount you have to type in the letters you see in the box that are all jumbled up

 

why not use this for the autoers?

 

I wouldnt mind typing in 4 letters evertime i get a random event if it got rid of the autoers

[maximus]

With my advanced knowlage of RS anti-cheating i can say that those randoms only stop the noobiest of scripters. Programs like *blocked* created by professionals are much harder to stop. Though jagex has defeated this program completely! *thumbs up to them*

 

 

 

To the idea of the Color Changing Blob, that would be easy to program... sorta. Tell the computer to output 3 random numbers, 0 through 255 and set those as the blob's main color in order of Red - Blue - Green. That's like 16 million different combinations.

 

Very easy to get past. Simply take a few Bitmap Pictures of the blob and set them in a script/auto. Have it tolerate color and TAHDAH!

 

 

 

 

 

One way to hide it would make it appear to be someone with full rune on, or some random person just walking around.

 

A simple bitmap of the text used would easyily overcome this.

 

To make it player proof simply have the script/auto look int eh chat box for the same words.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not sure how this would work, but what I had thought about was instead of a multiple choice type question, why not something that had to be typed in.

 

 

 

Much the same way that challenge clues are, where it either asks for the answer to a math problem, or some answer to runescape trivia question. I don't know anything about how autoers code, but would it be able to input an actual amount or text?

 

There is autotalkers in vaorck world 1 right? Heck yes scripts/autos can input text or numbers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you know how when you sign up for an email acount you have to type in the letters you see in the box that are all jumbled up

 

why not use this for the autoers?

 

I wouldnt mind typing in 4 letters evertime i get a random event if it got rid of the autoers

 

This is overcome by getting the script/auto to recognize each set of letters and input them. VERY VERY easy to overcome and is why jagex got rid of the fatigue system.

[Jake_Corsair]

But aren't the auto talkers pre programmed with certain phrases? If you had some random math problem would it be able to interpret that and input an answer?

 

 

 

for example:

 

some random number.....random function (- + * or /) ..... another random number.

[Nuke_Psychosis]

But aren't the auto talkers pre programmed with certain phrases? If you had some random math problem would it be able to interpret that and input an answer?

 

 

 

for example:

 

some random number.....random function (- + * or /) ..... another random number.

 

 

 

Actually it would. They could be programmed to find the operator in the math problem, and from there it could determine what the two numbers are based on the operator's location in the text.

[--dowsysarch--]

But aren't the auto talkers pre programmed with certain phrases? If you had some random math problem would it be able to interpret that and input an answer?

 

 

 

for example:

 

some random number.....random function (- + * or /) ..... another random number.

 

 

 

Actually it would. They could be programmed to find the operator in the math problem, and from there it could determine what the two numbers are based on the operator's location in the text.

 

 

 

well make it difficult for them, use 1000's of different fonts styles (and +'s and -'s signs) randomly. this would stop them being able to detect it wouldnt it? :S

 

 

 

im probably wrong, but at least im trying :-w

[Bubsa]

Hate to break it to you, but SCAR isn't the biggest macro contributor :|

[sligo]

I'm just wondering about your premise that because there are hundreds of players on each world at these respawns is evidence of macro-ing. To me, this is evidence that the game is growing.

 

 

 

- Sligo

[inner_breed]

I'm just wondering about your premise that because there are hundreds of players on each world at these respawns is evidence of macro-ing. To me, this is evidence that the game is growing.

 

 

 

- Sligo

 

 

 

yeah, they all just happen to be level three, running in a script format, and conviniantly unable to talk/do anything else besides mine fish or woodcut. All just new players right? just go to any f2p yew spawn.

[Minoture]

I'm just wondering...

 

If Jagex can detect these programs SO easily, why don't they just immiediatly ban the person that uses the program? If they're just letting them play to see where the yews go, why don't they just ban the entire IP address right away? I've run forums before and know how easy it is to do so!

 

Why dosn't Jagex just do these things? And if they can detect the program, shouldn't they be able to ban the program?