runemetsa Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Just before you get too carried away with "let's live in north pole" thingy, I'd like to remind you that there is no ground under ice caps. If they melt, only water will be left, so sorry no to your 'warm bungalow at north pole holiday resort' dreams. [Star Wreck][PM me][My gallery][DeviantArt][Cool T-shirts!][iron Sky - Trailer is now out!] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michiel2 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Just before you get too carried away with "let's live in north pole" thingy, I'd like to remind you that there is no ground under ice caps. If they melt, only water will be left, so sorry no to your 'warm bungalow at north pole holiday resort' dreams. There's always a south pole. 8-) Why all this stupid talk about a serious object? =; At least, I think that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barihawk Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Ice Tundra? If the Tundra of the Earth melt, it would be GOOD! Millions of square miles of previously inhospitable earth would be opened up for farming on incredibly fertile soil! Heck, if the US, Canada and Russia worked together, we could grow enough wheat to feed the entire world! ... could've sworn one of the more interesting things about the Siberian tundra was all the tons and tons of, as you so eloquently put it, "cow farts" frozen into it. That would, in the event of such a massive defreeze, move into the atmosphere. Now wouldn't that be, if you'll pardon the pun, hot? How many cows live in a barren land? Very few animals and people live in Tundra. The "cow farts" are released in more populated areas and more moderately temperate zones where large herds of animals are found. There isn't much CO2 frozen in Tundra...just dirt. My heart is broken by the terrible loss I have sustained in my old friends and companions and my poor soldiers. Believe me, nothing except a battle lost can be half so melancholy as a battle won. -Sir Arthur Wellesley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkmage099 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 But it would be fun to see your ranch anywhere near the north pole Cool I'd like to ride the polar bear, thanks. Later on, if you can arrange it so, I'd like to harvest some snowflakes for use in my cereals. There's no land on the north pole. :cry: I have a somewhat off-topic riddle: A man lives in his house. He comes out of his house and walks one mile south in a straight line. He then turns to his left 90 degrees and walks another mile. Then he turns to his left 90 degrees and walks a third mile (not 1/3 of a mile. An actual mile). He ends up back at his house. How is this possible. Note: His house is not one mile long.[/b] Trix.--quit WoW as of 12/07Thank you 4be2jue for the wonderful sig and avatar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigra00 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Ice Tundra? If the Tundra of the Earth melt, it would be GOOD! Millions of square miles of previously inhospitable earth would be opened up for farming on incredibly fertile soil! Heck, if the US, Canada and Russia worked together, we could grow enough wheat to feed the entire world! ... could've sworn one of the more interesting things about the Siberian tundra was all the tons and tons of, as you so eloquently put it, "cow farts" frozen into it. That would, in the event of such a massive defreeze, move into the atmosphere. Now wouldn't that be, if you'll pardon the pun, hot? How many cows live in a barren land? Very few animals and people live in Tundra. The "cow farts" are released in more populated areas and more moderately temperate zones where large herds of animals are found. There isn't much CO2 frozen in Tundra...just dirt. I believe I've read somewhere that there is also a good helping of Methane in them, which you know, is cow farts. :P And no, moose are not the new cows. Are there even moose in Antarctica? For some reason I don't think there are. And penguins are the new transportation units...Like sledding, kinda'. You could call them chickens, because you could eat them of course, but wouldn't you rather ride 'em?! The popularity of any given religion today depends on the victories of the wars they fought in the past. - Me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueTear Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 How many cows live in a barren land? Very few animals and people live in Tundra. The "cow farts" are released in more populated areas and more moderately temperate zones where large herds of animals are found. There isn't much CO2 frozen in Tundra...just dirt. Then again, cow's fart methane, not CO2. You know, methane, one of the primary components of natural gas? -This message was deviously brought to you by: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barihawk Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 How many cows live in a barren land? Very few animals and people live in Tundra. The "cow farts" are released in more populated areas and more moderately temperate zones where large herds of animals are found. There isn't much CO2 frozen in Tundra...just dirt. Then again, cow's fart methane, not CO2. You know, methane, one of the primary components of natural gas? While true, the majority of "flatus" is made up of CO2. If humans farted pure methane, we would not have to dig for oil. :P In one cubic cm of "fart", there is: 8% methane 5% other gases 87% CO2 My heart is broken by the terrible loss I have sustained in my old friends and companions and my poor soldiers. Believe me, nothing except a battle lost can be half so melancholy as a battle won. -Sir Arthur Wellesley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueTear Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 While I don't really want to turn this into a discussion concerning digestive tracts, I think you're confusing CO2 with nitrogen. Most gases in the digestive tract are swallowed, and swallowing those concentrations of CO2 without larger traces of nitrogen - especially considering a fair portion of humanity lack the bacteria neccesary to produce methane in their intestines - strikes me as... Odd. In either case, unfreeze the tundra, release methane. Where does this whole "it happends all the time" idea come from anyway? -This message was deviously brought to you by: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GhostRanger Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Where does this whole "it happends all the time" idea come from anyway? I don't know anything about this but...the ice age, perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barihawk Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Bluetear, there are bacteria in the digestive tracts that convert nutrients into CO2 as a result of their own digestion. Plus, I watched the Fart episode of Mythbusters. CO2 is the dominant gas. Nitrogen and Methane make up the other major portions, and there are even more gases found in trace amounts. And if the "it happens all the time" comment was directed towards me, the earth is constantly heating and cooling over time. In the grand scheme of things, this is fairly common in the billions of years of Earth's existance. Plus, I still don't get why soil defrosting itself would cause dangerous amounts of Methane OR Carbon Dioxide anyways? The only thing melting would be the water, which would enrich the soil underneath it. For the last time, Tundra is nothing but permafrost, which is soil that is perpetually frozen year round. It even has several inches to feet of soil on top of it. The reason it is inhospitable is that plants will die when their roots come into contact with the permafrost, they freeze to death. My heart is broken by the terrible loss I have sustained in my old friends and companions and my poor soldiers. Believe me, nothing except a battle lost can be half so melancholy as a battle won. -Sir Arthur Wellesley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueTear Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 Digestive tracts; Whatever. Not relevant. Cow's farts are, around here anyway, known for their content of methane - a greenhouse gas - which leads to a series of jokes about global warming and cow farts. Thus, I presumed you were refering to methane rather than CO2. Tundra; Because the methane is frozen into the tundra. Picture cube of ice of lemonade. The "lemonade particles" havn't frozen, the H20 in it has. When the ice melts, the particles frozen into it is released. Apply on a much, much bigger scale, and we have - for example - Siberia. Examples of articles about the subject can be found here and there, for example here and here. As for the billions of years of Earth's existance; If anything, it's an argument in favour of cutting back on the release of greenhouse gases. Scientists estimate that 2.7 billion years ago the mean temperature was somewhere around 70 degree celsius. Why? Greenhouse gases that are today bound in various forms such, oceans, biological life, seabeds, mountains etcetc. It is most empathically not in our best interest to play around with the atmosphere until we reach those conditions again. Even though they theoretically represent a fairly common state if you look on the earths entire geological existance. -This message was deviously brought to you by: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkmage099 Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 EDIT: woops... :-w Trix.--quit WoW as of 12/07Thank you 4be2jue for the wonderful sig and avatar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrOwez Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 Global warming is not even happening, the Scientific figures are changed by the UN so that they can charge the west i.e. Great Britian and America more tax on pollution managing... They dont pass bills through courts to stop China from polluting because they know that it wont budge. It is all just a scam on us ordinary people who will have to pay more in tax. A friend to all is a friend to none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Global warming is not even happening, the Scientific figures are changed by the UN so that they can charge the west i.e. Great Britian and America more tax on pollution managing... nice conspiracy theory, but the UN dosent have power over jack [cabbage]. Besides, If Governments want money via tax, they will let companies burn all the coal, oil, gas they want and tax them because they are the ones with all of the money and the inention to earn all the money they can get thier dirty hands on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperbabe701 Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 THIS IS NOT MY THEORY! this is my teacher, husbands, professers theory He says that before every Ice age the earth starts to warm up. Ice ages usally have a 15,000 year period between them, it has been 10,000 years since the last ice age. So basically he is saying there will be another ice age in a couple thousand years. Also a valcano erupted like 10 years ago adding more Co2 to the air then humans have ever added. Here is something I read A long time ago. Greenland and Anartica are melting at an alarmingly fast pace. If they both melted that would add 40% more water to the ocean. That means alot of land would go underwater, The WHOLE state of florida could go under.That would make Humans and animal crucnh into smaller pieces of land, ending human civalization. ( can't exactly remember how) *cough cough* They can't charge me for breaking into my own house *cough cough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jemathonical Posted November 24, 2006 Author Share Posted November 24, 2006 THIS IS NOT MY THEORY! this is my teacher, husbands, professers theory He says that before every Ice age the earth starts to warm up. Ice ages usally have a 15,000 year period between them, it has been 10,000 years since the last ice age. So basically he is saying there will be another ice age in a couple thousand years. Also a valcano erupted like 10 years ago adding more Co2 to the air then humans have ever added. Here is something I read A long time ago. Greenland and Anartica are melting at an alarmingly fast pace. If they both melted that would add 40% more water to the ocean. That means alot of land would go underwater, The WHOLE state of florida could go under.That would make Humans and animal crucnh into smaller pieces of land, ending human civalization. ( can't exactly remember how) Thats pretty scary ^Sir Jem 05-The Bunny Drinking Blog?^ Click it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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