defining/catagorizing people, right or wrong?

[CubeMage128]

I'm pretty sure everybody makes judgements all the time. Without judgement, we wouldn't have "Opinion", and therefore, we'd all be a conformist society.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As for judging people by the way they dress, I don't think anybody can honestly say that they haven't judged somebody at least ONCE from their appearences.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"You can't judge a book by its cover" Or can you? Usually, people are dressed the way they dress for a reason. T-Shirts with messages on them can display ones beliefs. Somebody who dresses sloppily might not particularly care for his/her hygiene. People who are dress "Gangtsa" most likely associate themselves with that crowd (Not saying that any of this is bad).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now, if you still refuse to believe that you have judged a person from what they wear:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You see an officer next to a police car, in his uniform with all his equipment.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"It's a police officer", you think to yourself.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You just made a preemptive judgement about that person without having spoken with him, or knowing anything else about his personal background. This also proves that preemptiv judgements by how people dress aren't always wrong.

[warri0r45]

I'm pretty sure everybody makes judgements all the time. Without judgement, we wouldn't have "Opinion", and therefore, we'd all be a conformist society.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

its our subjective perception that forms opinions, we all see things in different ways, and hence think in different ways.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

to say that making stereotypical judgements forms our opinions would mean that we'd have a more conformist society, not less.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You see an officer next to a police car, in his uniform with all his equipment.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"It's a police officer", you think to yourself.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You just made a preemptive judgement about that person without having spoken with him, or knowing anything else about his personal background. This also proves that preemptiv judgements by how people dress aren't always wrong.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

a police officer's uniform is designed to make u know who they are. Its not so much an assumption you make, as a sign saying 'i am a cop'

[CubeMage128]

 

 

 

a police officer's uniform is designed to make u know who they are. Its not so much an assumption you make, as a sign saying 'i am a cop'

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...And shouldn't the stuff you wear be a rough indicator of who you are? There ARE a few exceptions, but when it comes right down to it, you are the one who decides what to wear. When you choose your clothes, you are consciously projecting who you are through what you wear.

[warri0r45]

When you choose your clothes, you are consciously projecting who you are through what you wear.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i understand what u are saying mate, but i cant agree with you on this one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

my view is that you are right, what we wear basically puts us into a stereotype, but i dont agree with the resulting ignorant attitude on the behalf of society.

[rushrock]

 

 

I think everyone judges people until they get to know that person. I used to hate being judged but I figured I might as well get used to it seeing as how I judge others. It would be quite hypocritical if I judged others and didn't want to be judged myself, wouldn't it?

 

 

 

Agreed. Most people see a kid walking in school, and if he/she wears black, they'll say, "Oooh! He's emo/goth! He likes to cut him/herself!"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Categorizing and judging people is wrong, but if one person is clearly that stereotype, then it's ok to an extent.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you automatically assume something of a person based on his clothing, you're just close minded. It's not "ok", it's dumb. "I wont be his friend because he/she wears this or that, tight/loose pants, all black, all white, whatever". That just shows how immature you are, that you pick your friends not by who they are but how you think they're percieved by others.

 

 

 

Oh goodness! Please! Don't think of me like that! I'm totally against stereotypes! I think you misunderstood me. I'm saying that it's completely wrong to judge people, and names are bad. I shouldn't have said to an extent, but some people like the stereotype they have been called. I, however, take "goth" offensively, even if that is a little bit my style. Just because you act a certain way or wear certain things, that shouldn't affect who's friends or not. Autonatically assuming like that shouldn't happen, but sadly, it does, and it makes me very sad.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm sorry if I worded it wrong.

[jackalope14]

 

 

 

I think everyone judges people until they get to know that person. I used to hate being judged but I figured I might as well get used to it seeing as how I judge others. It would be quite hypocritical if I judged others and didn't want to be judged myself, wouldn't it?

 

 

 

Agreed. Most people see a kid walking in school, and if he/she wears black, they'll say, "Oooh! He's emo/goth! He likes to cut him/herself!"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Categorizing and judging people is wrong, but if one person is clearly that stereotype, then it's ok to an extent.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you automatically assume something of a person based on his clothing, you're just close minded. It's not "ok", it's dumb. "I wont be his friend because he/she wears this or that, tight/loose pants, all black, all white, whatever". That just shows how immature you are, that you pick your friends not by who they are but how you think they're percieved by others.

 

 

 

Just because you act a certain way or wear certain things, that shouldn't affect who's friends or not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well the way someone acts does affect who is my friend. If someone is acting obnoxious or mean or in a way I dont like then no, I wont be friends with them.

[rushrock]

 

 

 

 

I think everyone judges people until they get to know that person. I used to hate being judged but I figured I might as well get used to it seeing as how I judge others. It would be quite hypocritical if I judged others and didn't want to be judged myself, wouldn't it?

 

 

 

Agreed. Most people see a kid walking in school, and if he/she wears black, they'll say, "Oooh! He's emo/goth! He likes to cut him/herself!"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Categorizing and judging people is wrong, but if one person is clearly that stereotype, then it's ok to an extent.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you automatically assume something of a person based on his clothing, you're just close minded. It's not "ok", it's dumb. "I wont be his friend because he/she wears this or that, tight/loose pants, all black, all white, whatever". That just shows how immature you are, that you pick your friends not by who they are but how you think they're percieved by others.

 

 

 

Just because you act a certain way or wear certain things, that shouldn't affect who's friends or not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well the way someone acts does affect who is my friend. If someone is acting obnoxious or mean or in a way I dont like then no, I wont be friends with them.

 

 

 

Sorry. I meant more like their thoughts on things and how they talk, walk, etc. unless it's not mean, offensive, or obnoxious in any way.

[jackalope14]

 

 

 

 

 

I think everyone judges people until they get to know that person. I used to hate being judged but I figured I might as well get used to it seeing as how I judge others. It would be quite hypocritical if I judged others and didn't want to be judged myself, wouldn't it?

 

 

 

Agreed. Most people see a kid walking in school, and if he/she wears black, they'll say, "Oooh! He's emo/goth! He likes to cut him/herself!"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Categorizing and judging people is wrong, but if one person is clearly that stereotype, then it's ok to an extent.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you automatically assume something of a person based on his clothing, you're just close minded. It's not "ok", it's dumb. "I wont be his friend because he/she wears this or that, tight/loose pants, all black, all white, whatever". That just shows how immature you are, that you pick your friends not by who they are but how you think they're percieved by others.

 

 

 

Just because you act a certain way or wear certain things, that shouldn't affect who's friends or not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well the way someone acts does affect who is my friend. If someone is acting obnoxious or mean or in a way I dont like then no, I wont be friends with them.

 

 

 

Sorry. I meant more like their thoughts on things and how they talk, walk, etc. unless it's not mean, offensive, or obnoxious in any way.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yea your right. I guess I just understood it differently.

[ThoseTheBrokes]

I will go into depth.

 

 

 

It will get personnal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have been friends with a certain group of friends for at least 7-8 years, I am now 16.

 

 

 

A certain friend, Told me about his 'problem'

 

 

 

He told me in privacy, Of course at that time (About 1 1/2 years ago) I was creeped out, I didn't expect anything of the sort, At that time, I was trying to keep in with the 'cool' kids, the 'popular kids'

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

After a while, People found out, And people started to stare.

 

 

 

They then found out that he loved me, I was excluded.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

At first, I was furious with him, But after finding out from he, he suffered from depression, I felt guilty.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

About a year later (1 month ago) He told his parents.

 

 

 

Of course, His parents were devistated.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Up to this date, I am still very good friends with him, I see no problem with him loving me anymore, We have a laugh like normal friends.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Apart from the group of friends he grew up socialising with, People tease him all the time. Everywhere he goes around school, someone will comment.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He has changed himself, He is so much more shy, Self-concious and quiet, He has often spoken to me about commiting sucicide before he turns 18.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I am doing everything i can to help him out.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Without me being friends with him, Noone else would have known, And it might have been to late to do anything.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thankyou for reading,

 

 

 

-Luke.

[rushrock]

I will go into depth.

 

 

 

It will get personnal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have been friends with a certain group of friends for at least 7-8 years, I am now 16.

 

 

 

A certain friend, Told me about his 'problem'

 

 

 

He told me in privacy, Of course at that time (About 1 1/2 years ago) I was creeped out, I didn't expect anything of the sort, At that time, I was trying to keep in with the 'cool' kids, the 'popular kids'

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

After a while, People found out, And people started to stare.

 

 

 

They then found out that he loved me, I was excluded.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

At first, I was furious with him, But after finding out from he, he suffered from depression, I felt guilty.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

About a year later (1 month ago) He told his parents.

 

 

 

Of course, His parents were devistated.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Up to this date, I am still very good friends with him, I see no problem with him loving me anymore, We have a laugh like normal friends.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Apart from the group of friends he grew up socialising with, People tease him all the time. Everywhere he goes around school, someone will comment.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He has changed himself, He is so much more shy, Self-concious and quiet, He has often spoken to me about commiting sucicide before he turns 18.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I am doing everything i can to help him out.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Without me being friends with him, Noone else would have known, And it might have been to late to do anything.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thankyou for reading,

 

 

 

-Luke.

 

 

 

I wish the best luck for your friend. Homosexuals can be so mistreated, and it really breaks my heart when people won't accept people for who they are.

[ThoseTheBrokes]

Homosexuals can be so mistreated, and it really breaks my heart when people won't accept people for who they are.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

100% Agree.

 

 

 

You summed up my essay in a sentance.

[dusqi]

It happens at school because people are immature and usually a label is a derogatory one used to make them feel lower and highten there own self esteme. A form of bullying in other words. Once you have left school you rarely get this as people dont act this way in the real world.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Everybody makes judgements on people, you naturally do, its the ability to change your opinions by getting to know them that is important.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

^^

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ThoseTheBrokes - tell your friend that 18 is a silly time to kill himself, because from 18 onwards it starts getting better. I'm not saying that it will be perfect, but school is so pathetic, and you don't realise it until you get out of there.

[BlueLancer]

 

It happens at school because people are immature and usually a label is a derogatory one used to make them feel lower and highten there own self esteme. A form of bullying in other words. Once you have left school you rarely get this as people dont act this way in the real world.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Everybody makes judgements on people, you naturally do, its the ability to change your opinions by getting to know them that is important.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

^^

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ThoseTheBrokes - tell your friend that 18 is a silly time to kill himself, because from 18 onwards it starts getting better. I'm not saying that it will be perfect, but school is so pathetic, and you don't realise it until you get out of there.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Exactly, you haven't even seen what life is if all you've been doing is go to school and home and to some hobby. After school, you really start to experience 'life'.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, rushrock, I replied to your private message. It wasn't aimed at you, I'm using 'you' just in that context to apply to all close minded people.

[rushrock]

 

 

It happens at school because people are immature and usually a label is a derogatory one used to make them feel lower and highten there own self esteme. A form of bullying in other words. Once you have left school you rarely get this as people dont act this way in the real world.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Everybody makes judgements on people, you naturally do, its the ability to change your opinions by getting to know them that is important.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

^^

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ThoseTheBrokes - tell your friend that 18 is a silly time to kill himself, because from 18 onwards it starts getting better. I'm not saying that it will be perfect, but school is so pathetic, and you don't realise it until you get out of there.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Exactly, you haven't even seen what life is if all you've been doing is go to school and home and to some hobby. After school, you really start to experience 'life'.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, rushrock, I replied to your private message. It wasn't aimed at you, I'm using 'you' just in that context to apply to all close minded people.

 

 

 

Alright. Thank you.