englandman66 Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 What lvl to do Double Minds And if possible Triple Minds And Quadruple ~Englandman66 NEW TIPIT ACCOUNT-KNOTCH_BLADEClick For Bloggeh [Mage 55/55][Defence 26/40] Crafting[32/40] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaanniiellh Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 14 for 2x 28 for 3x 42 for 4x 56 - 5x 70 - 6x 84 - 7x 98 - 8x From tip.it guides ~Ddaanniiellh : 1437 : 173Lowest Combat to 1,000 Total in F2P (23 Combat)Check me out on YouTube! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englandman66 Posted December 21, 2006 Author Share Posted December 21, 2006 No need to rant about it last time i checked i didnt see that there jeeze ~Englandman66 What Spam post NEW TIPIT ACCOUNT-KNOTCH_BLADEClick For Bloggeh [Mage 55/55][Defence 26/40] Crafting[32/40] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieBrown Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 No need to rant about it last time i checked i didnt see that there jeeze ~Englandman66 What Spam post Uh, what rant lol? All i saw was him simply helping you out and telling you were to find it next time. Main Account - Max cape achieved 10th September 2011 Noob Account - 2300 total and climbing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Too Far Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 yep its what i remember always been in rc guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goobore Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 What lvl to do Double Minds And if possible Triple Minds And Quadruple ~Englandman66 Kinda offtopic but, compared to Mind runes, Body runes are: -- faster to runecraft -- give more runecrafting exp -- give more magic exp when cast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englandman66 Posted December 22, 2006 Author Share Posted December 22, 2006 I know they are faster but i need 15,000 mind runes and im still working on 30,000 airs :shock: NEW TIPIT ACCOUNT-KNOTCH_BLADEClick For Bloggeh [Mage 55/55][Defence 26/40] Crafting[32/40] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goobore Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 I know they are faster but i need 15,000 mind runes and im still working on 30,000 airs :shock: FWIW, 15,000 Fire Strikes can earn you about 270,000 magic exp, but 15,000 failed Curses will earn you 435,000 magic exp for about the same effort and/or price. Otherwise, you would only need about 9300 failed Curses to earn 270,000 exp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englandman66 Posted December 22, 2006 Author Share Posted December 22, 2006 what to fail curse on and wearing then?? NEW TIPIT ACCOUNT-KNOTCH_BLADEClick For Bloggeh [Mage 55/55][Defence 26/40] Crafting[32/40] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rednik Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 Wear full "metal" armour. Like rune, bronze, iron etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englandman66 Posted December 22, 2006 Author Share Posted December 22, 2006 Which one gives the biggest negative mage stats NEW TIPIT ACCOUNT-KNOTCH_BLADEClick For Bloggeh [Mage 55/55][Defence 26/40] Crafting[32/40] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rednik Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 Umh... Full metal (any metal armour), boots from stronghold of security... Leather gloves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikzelf100 Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 Which one gives the biggest negative mage stats they all give the same negative mage attack but youcan wear in addition some nice dragonhide vambraces and a kite shield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englandman66 Posted December 22, 2006 Author Share Posted December 22, 2006 What to curse then?> NEW TIPIT ACCOUNT-KNOTCH_BLADEClick For Bloggeh [Mage 55/55][Defence 26/40] Crafting[32/40] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goobore Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 What to curse then?> Ok, here's the situation... Fire Strike averages about 18 magic exp per cast but Curse always gives 29 per cast. The trick to efficient Cursing is to always fail when you cast. That way, you can keep on using the same monster over and over. You will always get the same 29 exp with each cast. To fail, you want your magic attack stat to be as low as possible. You can get it to about -68 with (Any metal will work) Full helm, chest plate, legs, kite shield, dragonhide vambraces, stronghold boots, and an Earth staff. Do not wear a magic ammy. Now, almost any monster will work. I prefer monsters that can't touch me in a multi-combat zone. So you could try casting from the key room in the Varrock sewers across the water at the 4 zombies in the ladder room. Or, you could try the caged red monk under the Varrock palace stairs, or the prisoners in the Port Sarim jail, or the caged lesser in the top of the wizzy tower, or ducks on the river, or scorps from the edge of the desert mine. Lots of monsters will work. Cursing does require you to click each time, but it is a very cost effective way to raise magic. Hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englandman66 Posted December 22, 2006 Author Share Posted December 22, 2006 So you will fail every time with about -68? ~Englandman66 NEW TIPIT ACCOUNT-KNOTCH_BLADEClick For Bloggeh [Mage 55/55][Defence 26/40] Crafting[32/40] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goobore Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 So you will fail every time with about -68? ~Englandman66 I have level 81 magic and I always fail with only -65 So, yeah, you should have no problems failing every time. Hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieBrown Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 Cursing takes along time and you get no hp, just remember that :wall: Main Account - Max cape achieved 10th September 2011 Noob Account - 2300 total and climbing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goobore Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 Cursing takes a long time But it's still more exp than any Mind rune based spell and far cheaper than any Chaos rune based spell... ...and you get no hp, ... True Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomster Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 You also get no drops from cursing, but with good safespoting, you can take down almost anything with Fire strikes (or Earth strikes, if you don't like using 2 airs per shot - personally, I'd rather get the max from the long walk mind runes and use more airs). The strongest point against failed cursing, the sheer boredom of one-shot casting with no reward other than 29 xp for each throw, though it IS a strategy if you want a particular "accessory" level of magic and no extra hp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goobore Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 ..., though it IS a strategy if you want a particular "accessory" level of magic and no extra hp. The main advantage with failed Cursing is it's cost effectiveness. Mind rune spells cost about the same as Curse but give less magic exp. Chaos runes give more exp, but also cost a lot more per cast. So, overall, if your goal is to "Raise Magic" as cheaply as possible, then failed Cursing is a good choice. Although, all of that clicking can get very boring. But then, most of the higher level skill raising in Runescape is boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englandman66 Posted December 26, 2006 Author Share Posted December 26, 2006 I have -65 without staff and -55 with and i cant wear vambs yet any other ideas? NEW TIPIT ACCOUNT-KNOTCH_BLADEClick For Bloggeh [Mage 55/55][Defence 26/40] Crafting[32/40] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victor1995 Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 I have -65 without staff and -55 with and i cant wear vambs yet any other ideas? Train your range to 40 and wear vambs, use stronghold boots, what all they said. No! You'll die if you try to kill that farmer!nah whips should be as left as is. besides theyre the intestine of an abbysal demon (i think) have fun crafting that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englandman66 Posted December 26, 2006 Author Share Posted December 26, 2006 Does it matter which kind of stronghold boots NEW TIPIT ACCOUNT-KNOTCH_BLADEClick For Bloggeh [Mage 55/55][Defence 26/40] Crafting[32/40] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rednik Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 No. And are you wielding a kite shield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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