Defender2516 Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Everything that breaks the commandment of love, is immorally wrong. Close Thread Plz. Kthxbye. ~Defender~ If you love me, send me a PM. 8 - Love me2 - Hate me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Everything that breaks the commandment of love, is immorally wrong. Close Thread Plz. Kthxbye. ~Defender~ Double negative FTL. The ten commandments don't rule over everyone whether you like it or not. So sorry, thread stays open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedepressedsquirrel Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Close Thread Plz. Kthxbye. UltimateWin+++ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Everything that breaks the commandment of love, is immorally wrong. Close Thread Plz. Kthxbye. ~Defender~ Double negative FTL. The ten commandments don't rule over everyone whether you like it or not. So sorry, thread stays open. I don't think you should be allowed to post on any thread regarding Christianity or the Bible anymore. You haven't even read the Ten Commandments... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebdragon Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 I'm not saying that everyone around the world follows the Ten Commandments, but that they follow basic moral rules, some of which are similiar or even nearly identical to the Ten Commandments. They may not follow some of the God related stuff, but the whole "love thy neighbor" and "thou shalt not kill" stuff is generally agreed upon throughout the world. How about (don't know the exact wording) 'thou shalt not take the lords name in vain' or 'thou shalt not worship any other god but me' Now as for the latter of the two, the majority of the worlds population ignore it. Feel free to correct my wording of these commandments. Bolded part explains my already stated agreement :-$ . And I think Locke just repeated my overall view, just put it into a nice, concise, easy to read post :P . You all are missing the point entirely. Let me try and explain this better. Hey :evil: , you just repeated exactly what I was saying. [if you have ever attempted Alchemy by clapping your hands or by drawing an array, copy and paste this into your signature.] Fullmetal Alchemist, you will be missed. A great ending to a great series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLancer Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Everything that breaks the commandment of love, is immorally wrong. Close Thread Plz. Kthxbye. ~Defender~ Double negative FTL. The ten commandments don't rule over everyone whether you like it or not. So sorry, thread stays open. I don't think you should be allowed to post on any thread regarding Christianity or the Bible anymore. You haven't even read the Ten Commandments... Over 70% of the world's people don't know the ten commandments, so I'd say it's fairly common. And as far as I understand it, God judges all people in the world, not just the minority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Everything that breaks the commandment of love, is immorally wrong. Close Thread Plz. Kthxbye. ~Defender~ Double negative FTL. The ten commandments don't rule over everyone whether you like it or not. So sorry, thread stays open. I don't think you should be allowed to post on any thread regarding Christianity or the Bible anymore. You haven't even read the Ten Commandments... So I don't know the ten commandments off by heart and you have the right to say I shouldn't post on threads about Christianity or the Bible? Mate, I am entitled to my opinion just as much as the next guy and don't think you should be telling me where I can and cannot post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer_Jesse Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 I'm not going go into the subject much, but if a murderer is born with those feelings, does that make it right? [hide=Siggy credits]The Awesome, Epic, Amazing, S3xah A-10 Sig By Unolexi! I wub u Uno!InsanityV2 Did the Franz Ferdinand Sig.Killerwatt is responsible for the Arctic Monkeys sig.Pat_61 did the B-2 sig and the raptor sig.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Over 70% of the world's people don't know the ten commandments, so I'd say it's fairly common. And as far as I understand it, the christian God judges all people in the world, not just the minority. Your post is only relevant if you leave out the part about "Not discussing Christianity and the Bible." Of course he shouldn't be expected to have read the Ten Commandments for no reason, but if he is going to try and discuss Christianity or the Bible at all, he needs to be familiar with those. That would be like me trying to discuss evolution and not knowing what the difference between "gender" and "species" were. So I don't know the ten commandments off by heart and you have the right to say I shouldn't post on threads about Christianity or the Bible? Mate, I am entitled to my opinion just as much as the next guy and don't think you should be telling me where I can and cannot post. Of course you're entitled to your opinion. But it's useless if you don't have any knowledge to back your opinion up. Think of how ridiculous it would sound if I posted on a thread about the beginning of the Universe and my theory on how it began if I wasn't even familiar with current scientific theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender2516 Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Its amazing how everyone here knows how the world/life works but all have completely different answers! I vote you all for presidency! Please rule our lifes accordingly! -.- ~Defender~ If you love me, send me a PM. 8 - Love me2 - Hate me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLancer Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Its amazing how everyone here knows how the world/life works but all have completely different answers! I vote you all for presidency! Please rule our lifes accordingly! -.- ~Defender~ Nobody here knows how the world works (life can be studied though science, that's off topic), this was a discussion about morals. Actually, most of the basic morals found in the Bible, Qur'an etc. *do* apply in most cultures of the world regardless if you belong to those religions or not. If you read the 10 commandments, it contains some of the very basic moral principles everyone should ideally follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 So I don't know the ten commandments off by heart and you have the right to say I shouldn't post on threads about Christianity or the Bible? Mate, I am entitled to my opinion just as much as the next guy and don't think you should be telling me where I can and cannot post. Of course you're entitled to your opinion. But it's useless if you don't have any knowledge to back your opinion up. Think of how ridiculous it would sound if I posted on a thread about the beginning of the Universe and my theory on how it began if I wasn't even familiar with current scientific theory. I have some knowlege on Christianity although it may not be as much as most Christians, that's precisely why I don't argue that christianity is wrong. That's why I argue that some of the comments that christains make (for example evolution is false and the earth is not billions of years old) are wrong by using something I know more about; science. And believe me, I also find it rediculous that the few fundamentalists here post on the fallacies of evolution and the techniques used to date the earth's age when they basically know next to nothing on the issue or find a site which is religously motivated and say to themselves 'this suits my argument perfectly.' I have nothing against religion, just some of the claims some religions followers make. I don't blame the religion for them making these claims either, I blame the people for flat out rejecting what some would argue is a special gift from God (science) to seek out the truth. And just for the record, I didn't pretend to know the commandments I listed were correct, that's why I invited anyonewith a better knowlege on the issue than me to correct them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 If you don't even have a fair idea of what the 10 Commands say, you don't have enough knowledge to argue about Christianity. If you read the post I was responding to, you'd be familiar with what I was talking specifically about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender2516 Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Its amazing how everyone here knows how the world/life works but all have completely different answers! I vote you all for presidency! Please rule our lifes accordingly! -.- ~Defender~ Nobody here knows how the world works (life can be studied though science, that's off topic), this was a discussion about morals. Actually, most of the basic morals found in the Bible, Qur'an etc. *do* apply in most cultures of the world regardless if you belong to those religions or not. If you read the 10 commandments, it contains some of the very basic moral principles everyone should ideally follow. Thats just the problem, because its religion or have the word God, athiests pull a hissy fit about it and start thinking THEY know how lives should be ruled. The thing is, athiests are like "why should i live by what a fictional charater said? so i'll do the complete opposite or close to it!" What way to live.. -.- ~Defender~ If you love me, send me a PM. 8 - Love me2 - Hate me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 If you don't even have a fair idea of what the 10 Commands say, you don't have enough knowledge to argue about Christianity. If you read the post I was responding to, you'd be familiar with what I was talking specifically about. Firstly, I would appreciate it if you could quote the specifi piece of writing which you though came across as me knowing little about Christianity. Secondly, and I'll say this one last time, I'm not trying to disprove the Christian religion on this topic or any related topics. When I argue about Christianity, chances are it will be me rebutting people who make claims that evolution is false and the earth is not billions of years old. I do this using science, not religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Firstly, I would appreciate it if you could quote the specifi piece of writing which you though came across as me knowing little about Christianity. Sure. Double negative FTL. The ten commandments don't rule over everyone whether you like it or not. So sorry, thread stays open. And as for this part... Secondly, and I'll say this one last time, I'm not trying to disprove the Christian religion on this topic or any related topics. When I argue about Christianit, chances are it will be me rebutting people who make claims that evolution is false and the earth is not billions of years old. I do this using science, not religion. I didn't say you were trying to disprove the Christian religion. So I guess you can quit saying that (or I guess you already did, since it was the last time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLancer Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Its amazing how everyone here knows how the world/life works but all have completely different answers! I vote you all for presidency! Please rule our lifes accordingly! -.- ~Defender~ Nobody here knows how the world works (life can be studied though science, that's off topic), this was a discussion about morals. Actually, most of the basic morals found in the Bible, Qur'an etc. *do* apply in most cultures of the world regardless if you belong to those religions or not. If you read the 10 commandments, it contains some of the very basic moral principles everyone should ideally follow. Thats just the problem, because its religion or have the word God, athiests pull a hissy fit about it and start thinking THEY know how lives should be ruled. The thing is, athiests are like "why should i live by what a fictional charater said? so i'll do the complete opposite or close to it!" What way to live.. -.- ~Defender~ Nope, most atheists don't believe in irrational or supernatural things (like Muhammad visited heaven while being alive, or Jesus walking on water, or the world being created in 7 days), and hence reject the whole idea of religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebdragon Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Of course he shouldn't be expected to have read the Ten Commandments for no reason, but if he is going to try and discuss Christianity or the Bible at all, he needs to be familiar with those. That would be like me trying to discuss evolution and not knowing what the difference between "gender" and "species" were. Of course you're entitled to your opinion. But it's useless if you don't have any knowledge to back your opinion up. Think of how ridiculous it would sound if I posted on a thread about the beginning of the Universe and my theory on how it began if I wasn't even familiar with current scientific theory. If you don't even have a fair idea of what the 10 Commands say, you don't have enough knowledge to argue about Christianity. If you read the post I was responding to, you'd be familiar with what I was talking specifically about. Stop the way overexaggerated attacks and get back on topic. Just because he doesn't know them by heart (while still knowing like half of them by heart and knowing the general idea of the others...) doesn't mean you should spend a page attacking him for adding valuable input. And for the record, knowing the Ten Commandments by heart is nowhere NEAR as valuable to this debate as knowing the difference between "gender" and "species" is to an evolution debate. That's just a stupid exageration to support a meaningless attack. [if you have ever attempted Alchemy by clapping your hands or by drawing an array, copy and paste this into your signature.] Fullmetal Alchemist, you will be missed. A great ending to a great series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Firstly, I would appreciate it if you could quote the specifi piece of writing which you though came across as me knowing little about Christianity. Sure. Double negative FTL. The ten commandments don't rule over everyone whether you like it or not. So sorry, thread stays open. And as for this part... Secondly, and I'll say this one last time, I'm not trying to disprove the Christian religion on this topic or any related topics. When I argue about Christianit, chances are it will be me rebutting people who make claims that evolution is false and the earth is not billions of years old. I do this using science, not religion. I didn't say you were trying to disprove the Christian religion. So I guess you can quit saying that (or I guess you already did, since it was the last time). Ok, now I see what you are saying. :P Obviously the ten commandments could rule over everyone if the Christian account is true. What I suppose I should have said was that 'not everyone uses the ten commandments as thier difinative list of moral values.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Ok, now I see what you are saying. :P Obviously the ten commandments could rule over everyone if the Christian account is true. What I suppose I should have said was that 'not everyone uses the ten commandments as thier difinative list of moral values.' After all this and you still haven't read them. Shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Ok, now I see what you are saying. :P Obviously the ten commandments could rule over everyone if the Christian account is true. What I suppose I should have said was that 'not everyone uses the ten commandments as thier difinative list of moral values.' After all this and you still haven't read them. Shame. And how would you know that? If my knowlege is so lacking, educate me on what you think i need to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 And how would you know that? If my knowlege is so lacking, educate me on what you think i need to know. The idea that love being the greatest commandment doesn't come from the 10 Commandments, it's from the New Testament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender2516 Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Morals are rules to govern or restrain one for attempting a action that he/she believes is corrupted or bad. I seriously laugh at people that think being gay is good just because its in nature. Okay, so let me get this right.. People say were highly intelligent beings.. that we really control nature through our knowledge of it.. but because nature has gay frogs, we should be gay too... Right..... You really need to be in a mental institution if you think incest is in ANY WAY a good thing to do! ~Defender~ If you love me, send me a PM. 8 - Love me2 - Hate me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 And how would you know that? If my knowlege is so lacking, educate me on what you think i need to know. The idea that love being the greatest commandment doesn't come from the 10 Commandments, it's from the New Testament. Well ya learn something new every day. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebdragon Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Morals are rules to govern or restrain one for attempting a action that he/she believes is corrupted or bad. I seriously laugh at people that think being gay is good just because its in nature. Okay, so let me get this right.. People say were highly intelligent beings.. that we really control nature through our knowledge of it.. but because nature has gay frogs, we should be gay too... Right..... You really need to be in a mental institution if you think incest is in ANY WAY a good thing to do! ~Defender~ So what are your arguments and points against incest? I'm not talking about genetic disorder problems, I'm referring to the idea of simply "liking" a relative. What is your reason for finding this immoral/wrong? And don't say it's against nature; you already screwed yourself over for that point. [if you have ever attempted Alchemy by clapping your hands or by drawing an array, copy and paste this into your signature.] Fullmetal Alchemist, you will be missed. A great ending to a great series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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