SirHartlar Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Hello and welcome to my most comprehensive question ever posted in this forum. Today I am trusting this prestigious community to help me refine my current Barrows technique and to (hopefully) make my trips more profitable and quicker. Here is my set up and method that I use at the moment: My Equipment: My Inventory: My Method: Bank at Canifis. Use Myreque Shortcut. Go over Bridge, then ride in Swamp Boaty. Walk to Barrows. Pray Melee and Slayer Dart Dharock. Pray Ranged and Slayer Dart Karil. Drink 1 P-Pot dose, Pray Melee and Slayer Dart Verac. Drink 1 P-Pot dose, Pray Magic and Range Ahrim. Use Excalibur Special and Slayer Dart Guthan. Slayer Dart Torag. If a melee brother in tunnels, use safespot. If Ahrim/Karil tunnel, drink a dose and use appropriate method of annihilation. Get 18 KC. Loot Chest. Ecto, Castle Wars, teleport to house and pray, go through Kharyll Teleportal and start again. Now here is the part all Barrows experts can assist me in. I need to know whether my current method is the best at my level. My stats can be found by clicking the link just under my avatar (I am 100 combat). If you have any suggestions for new methods, or just tips to improve my current one, please post. I have around 2m in pure cash at the moment, but I wouldn't refuse to sell some of my items to raise more cash for a different method. Thank you to anyone who helps me with this rather large question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chartres Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 To save time replace ecto, duel ring and one lob with house teleport. Or if you have it, a house teletab, then you can take more food. Otherwise your inventory looks good. Ahrims would be better than mystic, and other upgrades will be good when you have the cash to invest. Also, you will find a more efficient order of killing the brothers if you can learn to use the meleeing safe spots in the tunnels rather than killing them in the crypts but you will discover this over time. Good luck, I hope you get Guthan's Spear very soon :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twr_phr33k Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Method: If you make Home Teleport tablets you can save more space in the inventory rather than having to carry a ring and ecto vial. That way more time will be saved. Equipment: Holy Book of Sara if a little pointless, seeing that you will be using protection prayers most the time, so Guthix/Zamorak would be a better alternative. Switch mystic gloves to Barrows (final chapter of Recipe for Disaster) - better offensive/defensive bonus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severation Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Scrap the mystic top and bottom, wear the black dragon hide. Keep the mystic gloves and boots though. You don't really need the rune shield, as saradomin prayer book gives a bit of def. I would recommend using a guthix book, if not zamorak. Everything else seems fine, unless you want to take better food? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirHartlar Posted February 15, 2007 Author Share Posted February 15, 2007 To save time replace ecto, duel ring and one lob with house teleport. Or if you have it, a house teletab, then you can take more food. Otherwise your inventory looks good. Ahrims would be better than mystic, and other upgrades will be good when you have the cash to invest. Also, you will find a more efficient order of killing the brothers if you can learn to use the meleeing safe spots in the tunnels rather than killing them in the crypts but you will discover this over time. Good luck, I hope you get Guthan's Spear very soon :D I use the safespots in the tunnels already for all the melee brothers, this helps me save a ton of prayer pot doses. I average 2 or 3 doses usually, I have never used more than 4 since hitting 60 Prayer and I often only use 1 dose. I am thinking of taking my Torags down instead of Rune, of course this would be a massive loss if I died... :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchainmail Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 With the stats in my sig, I only use a ppot dose if Karil is in the tunnel. Here is how I do it: Dharok in his crypt (down to ~30 prayer) Karil in his crypt (rest of prayer) Ahrim (use last like 5 prayer points) Verac, Torag, and Guthan (wearing torags) Dharok and Karil I wear mystic and slayer dart. Ahrim I use a MSB (and spec) Everyone else I slayer dart while wearing full Torags and a rune kite (i keep meaning to get a book) I carry 9 monks and 5 sharks with me. I usually use all the monks, and none of the sharks. After my first 50 runs, here are my averages: .6 sharks/trip 6.7 monks/trip .3 doses of ppot/trip EDIT: Feel free to pm me in game. EDIT2: Lose the heraldic kiteshield. If you die, you might lose a lot of cash. If you want to look different, paint a kiteshield at a house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chartres Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 I use the safespots in the tunnels already for all the melee brothers, this helps me save a ton of prayer pot doses. I average 2 or 3 doses usually, I have never used more than 4 since hitting 60 Prayer and I often only use 1 dose. I am thinking of taking my Torags down instead of Rune, of course this would be a massive loss if I died Sounds like you have the routine down very well. I agree about zammy book, by the way, if you have it. And definitely use your Torags, it will help you save food in the tunnels while you are gettting your kill count where you want it. Again, good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straw_Hat Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 using food is for nabs :-# people think it's so much cheaper than than using p pots lets see, i use one pot per run praying on all brothers say that's 10k using just one invent space allowing me do multiple runs w/o banking you get from 6-7 runs per hour and you can bank after about 10 runs using 1 dose on only karil and using food gets you at most 2 runs before banking about 4-5 runs an hour. sure you save 5k a trip but really, since you profit from the runes/bolt racks anyways, doing more barrows runs an hour gives you more chances at barrows items meaning more profit take out mystic, the brothers have no mage def other than ahrim if you can afford guthans take that instead of rune i miss 1-2 more times in full guthans than i do in ahrims which isn't a big deal don't worry about dying only way is probably lag or you are simply careless and fight w/o prayer that's another bad thing about using food and not prayer lag = dead the higher the kc doesn't really matter in my personal experience, 12+ gives same results Kaizoku Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gin_and_Tonic Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Take a sara brew and a super restore pot for the defence + and health heal. (get rid of the sword) Also use the brew to exceed your hitpoints before drinking the super restore, which will also increase pray. Ditch the d hide top, as you'll still own Ahrims w/o it. Ditch the book and just take the shield - Or use a Zammy book. I believe there is also an item which increase the amout of pray points you get back per dose when it is in your inventory - I'd look into taking that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchainmail Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 I believe there is also an item which increase the amout of pray points you get back per dose when it is in your inventory - I'd look into taking that. It's called the holy wrench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gin_and_Tonic Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 I believe there is also an item which increase the amout of pray points you get back per dose when it is in your inventory - I'd look into taking that. It's called the holy wrench. Thank you. I hear it can be a good item to take to barrows, however i have never used it. Also, there is no need to pay on Verac if you use the Sara brew and the rune - Take monkfish as they're only about 50gp each more than lobsters, and they heal more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirHartlar Posted February 15, 2007 Author Share Posted February 15, 2007 Take a sara brew and a super restore pot for the defence + and health heal. (get rid of the sword) Also use the brew to exceed your hitpoints before drinking the super restore, which will also increase pray. Ditch the d hide top, as you'll still own Ahrims w/o it. Ditch the book and just take the shield - Or use a Zammy book. I believe there is also an item which increase the amout of pray points you get back per dose when it is in your inventory - I'd look into taking that. What is the current price of a sara brew and a super restore + how many would I need to buy if I was looking to do 100 trips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchainmail Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 What is the current price of a sara brew and a super restore + how many would I need to buy if I was looking to do 100 trips? Sara brews are about 5k for a (3) Super restores are about 8k for a (3) If I had to guess, I'd buy 50 of each, assuming you will use 1-2 doses of each a trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chartres Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 I doubt you will realize any big benefits from the sara brew/super restore combo with your method of barrowing and I certainly wouldn't invest in more than one set to test with. I'm guessing the cost of that combo will outweigh your current set-up which seems very efficient for your current melee/range/mage levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gin_and_Tonic Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Take a sara brew and a super restore pot for the defence + and health heal. (get rid of the sword) Also use the brew to exceed your hitpoints before drinking the super restore, which will also increase pray. Ditch the d hide top, as you'll still own Ahrims w/o it. Ditch the book and just take the shield - Or use a Zammy book. I believe there is also an item which increase the amout of pray points you get back per dose when it is in your inventory - I'd look into taking that. What is the current price of a sara brew and a super restore + how many would I need to buy if I was looking to do 100 trips? Do it in this order if you're gonna take and brew: Pray Dhraocks. Pray Karils. Dont pray Ahrims. ---Sara Brew to heal, maybe 2-3 sips to exceed your hits, then take one sip of your super restore to get your stats back to normal--- Use the Excess pray to kill Guthans, but dont bother repotting after. Dont pray Torag. Dont pray Veracs. In theory, if your defence is high enough, you could do one run with just one or two sips of a super restore (depends how much you drink against ahrim and dharock) and maybe a whole sara brew (4). Brews are 5k each. Supers about 8-9kea. I would show you a set up, but my pure is banned, so i have nothing at the moment - Im going from pass experiences on my main. Edit: With your hawt defence, a brew would make it like 95+. The only one who would probably hit you higher is Verac, where defence doesn't matter. With 60 defence, i could easily go 2-3 runs round in a trip, and i was using fire blast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirHartlar Posted February 15, 2007 Author Share Posted February 15, 2007 Ok, I switched my Mystic Gloves for Barrows Gloves. I might get a Zamorak book tomorrow, which I guess will cost around 700k. I am still unsure what other changes to make to my setup though, so many conflicting ideas. :? I might try a few of them tomorrow and see which (if any) suit me better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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