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Yes and no. Runescape is a game that is extremely time intensive. At some point, you get to an age where you literally don't have much time for anything. You are kind of forced into being too old for it...

Cool? There is likely a better word to describe these people...

This whole argument is ridiculous, and I feel like I'm getting involved in my son's "whose dad can beat up whose dad" arguments. Comparing the ethical decisions of someone playing a game to other ethical decisions they would make in real life situations is ridiculous. Take for instance the gameshow "Take it all" or "Golden Balls" or "Friend or Foe". In this game, you elect to share the money with your opponent, or steal the money from your opponent. Does that mean that anyone choosing to steal would be inclined to steal from any person? What doesn't correlate to runescape in said previous example is the fact that the decision is part of the game. But by the design of Runescape, players are geared towards botting. Runescape isn't a game that most people will enjoy start to finish. There is the start, at which point everything is fun, there is the middle, where I would say 90% of your game lifetime is spent, and there is the end game. Runescape is a game with 1000's or hours of gameplay, however only a small percentage of that gameplay is unique. To sum it all up, I don't think anyone is saying they enjoy botters or that it isn't a negative impact on the game. However I feel most of us can sympathize with botters. Ultimately the blame falls on Jagex. It is their job to regulate the game, and they have done a pretty piss poor job at it.

This post intrigues me. Why exactly does it matter where this post goes?

I think you are overly sensitive.

I'm going to be honest. I have no problem with bots. I do have a problem with 100's of bots at one training spot. Fix that, and you solved the problem. If RandoJoe85 is botting at GE, and I can't tell...I don't care. If xznoregretz is botting at castlewars to trim his pretty cape, I don't care. Frankly...I just don't care.

I just think the whole idea is dumb. Even if you enjoyed castle wars, it would take someone special to want to play 5000 games. I could probably play 3 games straight before I would want to do something else, and I would be willing to bet I wouldn't be too far off to say the rest of the world probably shares a similar opinion. If someone wants that cape, I can honestly not fault them for botting. Forcing people to sit in front of a computer screen for 2000 hours just to get an achievement raises my ethic's flag. Botting is not so much a fault of the user as it is a fault of the game. I've brought this up many times in previous threads, but there is too much shit in runescape that you must grind through in order to enjoy the game. Remove these aspects of the game, make a fun means of money making, and you will reduce both botting and RWTing.

Well let me spin this full circle then. Many of the arguments against RWT is the fact that it creates an unfair advantage for those who are more rich/successful in the real world. Are you suggesting that those who have more time to play this game have an unfair advantage? The problem with Runescape is that everything is exponential, except for xp/hr and gp/hr. This creates the grind that we all know and love. This is fine for your average 12-16 year old who has all the time in the world to waste their life in front of a computer screen. The rest of us aren't as time rich, however. With that said, and I don't mean to toot my own horn, but I am a young engineer with a very lucrative job and career. I could spend 200hr on runescape trying to obtain my goal, or I could use the money that earn from my job, which is earned in 2 hours. For this very reason, I understand why people bot and rwt. I just want some armor. I would understand if the process of getting that armor is fun like it is many other games, but that just isn't the case in runescape.

I guess we can all agree it should be! I personally find it insane to have to grind 200 hours to achieve an armour set ingame, people who said "just" 200 hours seem to be able to play 10 a day and even like that it will take almost a month to get. I really really doubt the avg scaper plays that much Just playing 5 hours a days is pretty much and like that you're looking at yourself gathering GP for what.. 2 months straight? Doesnt sound like fun Who has time to play 5 hours a day? I can get in maybe an hour or two every couple of days....

Not sure if this a tongue in cheek remark or not. Everything you do in the game should be fun. That is why it's a game. Runescape has become more of a job for most...

Jagex introduced microtransactions because they could. I'm not sure if the majority just don't understand how business works, but let me try to explain with an example. Let's say a company specializes in making bread. The CEO of the company is informed that they can quadruple their profits by purchasing their wheat from a foreign country. It is an unpopular decision, but they suspect only half of their current customers have an issue with it. Now translate that to Jagex. Even if half of the players quit because of the update (which I suspect is no where near the actual value), they can easily recoup those loses with SoF. The fact of the matter is that Jagex is a business and they had an opportunity to make more money. You don't ignore those opportunities. As for balance within the game, I think this is kind of a moot point. If i'm going to be spending $200, I'd expect more than 800k xp. To 95% of the players, $200 is a good chunk of change. If there was some reason or other that I really wanted some content for this game, I'd much rather spend $50 then 8 hours straight doing the same thing over and over. But maybe that is why I quit this game. When it starts to feel more like a chore than a game, it's likely time to find a new hobby.

This is false. Registration never required an email address, but you would still enter one for recovery questions, however they still didn't email you the information...it was just there as an extra field for identifying your account. I really doubt Jagex keeps that long of retention on accounts however. Most companies purge data older than 4 years.

Sounds like a bunch of highschool bullshit. I don't really like either of the two clowns, but in the end, fishy turned his operation into a business. "I lost my comp cape for you".... 1. I feel like that is his own fault. 2. You can probably purchase a comp cape account for under $1000. Finally, does this kid not know how to embed audio clips into his recordings? Recording a recording...what is this? 1990?

Fishy is young and that is what young people do. They feel entitled. You see these type on the college campuses all the time. Realistically it's just something that he feels strongly about. And he is supported by a community that is equally as young. It's all foolish really. Jagex own the game and they will win this battle. FIshy needs to realize that it was great while it lasted, but at some point, it's time for him to move on. Hopefully he hasn't quit focusing on his studies for this game...which wouldn't surprise me.

I think you may have got more credit for your bump if what you posted was relevant to the current state of botting in runescape. Instead, you merely posted about the comparison of Jacmob to Hitler, which is just dumb.