You do realize when I said "younger" that it has been years since I've let myself touch a cheat for any reason, even game mechanic understanding, right? Of course, I suppose you're probably having fun teasing me. :P Yeah, I have reached Core Level 11 at this point. I just hope it isn't a level-specific glitch, and is simply caused by my character's current (and previous) acquisitions. :? I guess I'll have to do another fresh start, as I would really like to know. That is, unless somebody goes and beats me to the punch by testing first and posting back their results on the matter. :geek: At the moment though, I'm about 200 game days in on my current game profile. I may find it possibly necessary to hold off on checking that until I'm either near to or finished with the current profile's run. Thankfully, I do have the original build of my character, as I didn't overwrite that save when I created it. That should enable me to check one side of that mess (having a starting offensive spell) more easily. :huh: However, I could use some help with picking out stats/skills/attributes so that I get a character build that has no starting spells (or at least not any offensive ones). Without spells, it admittedly would be a nice bonus during character setup if the result gives a nice Magicka pool to use later on during the course of gameplay. So if you happen to have any ideas, or even simple thoughts on the matter, feel free to post back with them please? I'll gladly take any useful input I can possibly get! :pray: ~D. V. "That reminds me... I should make a backup of that original character build file!" Devnull