ahh... let me add another thing about f2p updates. let me think... i've played since a long long time ago (my account started as a "miner"), and when the members was about to be released, they said the members will get to test all new things, and have more things to do, eventually the f2p will get some updates to, but afterwards. 2-3 years later... *still waiting for those updates*. umm... i think jagex became greedy... ok ok, maybe i misinterpretted what they said, but now is the thing i've noticed: what USEFUL updates did we get? more bank space? i don't think we really need more. before, there was only 1 page of banking, and that slot max is 18 mill... umm... i think iv'e grown used to it, chucking things out that i don't need (and i got hacked so i really don't need bank space right now, just ores, ores, and... hey... 180 hammers... they didn't steal that!!) non-members can only mine rune essence? that is not useful whatsoever, infact, it ruined many people. now we really know jagex is greedy (well, it is not a nonprofit company, so it's expected) more member stuff in non-member space? omg, we need some space thankyou. i'm tired of seeing these new people who said things, then says you need to be a member (i'm a dam proud f2p. in fact, i want to try and recreate rs in my view someday... hopefully... maybe... guess not.. lol) ok... what other undates do we have? secruity stronghold? is it even a quest? improved graphics? rs is not about graphics. you can't expect much with java's graphics.... now i'm stuck.. what updates did we really get?